Who to Trade?

[Rivers Run Red 182]

Danners

Yze

They are my definites. But yes Its time to rebuild.

Im not sure "trade" is usually the term used for coaches, but yes he does need to go.

[Kit Walker 207]

I am a fan of looking at any available trades. Yze is not realistic as he is a half price option (veteran list), whereas Davey is as is Miller. Would reassess closer to end of year though

[CHAMP 347]

The problem with trading is the stockpile of players who have passed their "use-by", the hard core of old faves which Neale has clung onto and were to be basis of a Premiership side. There's nothing much of value to bring to the table which isn't going to damage our immediate prospects. I'd go the youth policy right now instead of trying to eke wins here and there out of players on the other side of the bell-curve.

[CHAMP 347]

You wont get a cracker for either Miller or Yze.

I'm not so sure. Miller would be worth at least a Catherine Wheel and Yze should be good for a packet of Sparklers.

[drdrake 3,045]

What are we trading for?

Draft picks, if your trading from draft picks you want first and second round picks, do we have any players on our list that we are wiling to give up for those picks. I think a club might give up a second round pick for Jamar, Richmond/Carlton and a few others need a ruck we might get lucky. Players on our list that might get you a top 10 pick- Mclean, Sylvia, Johnstone, Bate, Bruce, Rivers Davey Robbo. Of them are we wiling to give any up? Next 10-30 range players like Green, Bell, Jamar, Dunn, PJ, Jones and from there on I don't think we have much else to offer maybe Miller if we can get lucky.

For a play depends on the player, Judd I'd give up TJ and second round pick, I would go after Warnock at the Dockers or Murphy that will cost a player like CJ Wheatley, Jamar and mabe a 2nd or third pick.

One thing is for sure we will not win a flag with Holland, Ward, Brown, Ferguson, Biz and Godfrey(he has been great this year but his skills are not AFL standard) on our list.

[BrownlowBruce 1]

hey i got idea why dont u all support another club, wow we lost.....

hmmm lets trade every player we can think off...

yze ? for starters he was selected tonight coz he was.... its not his decisions if he gets picked over newton for te half of the people angry at him for that take a look at urself.. i dont think he will say "naa, i think u should play newton not me"

As for the people who think he was crap tonight.... u tell me how much game did he play? he was injured by half time annddd melb got smashed in the first half by a big margin.....

lay off all of you..... pathedic...

as for the people who want to trade bruce and or davey... get realistic

i would no longer support AFL if this happened

[diesel 420]

hey i got idea why dont u all support another club, wow we lost.....

Just to bring you up to speed....even the coach is upset!

[BrownlowBruce 1]

Just to bring you up to speed....even the coach is upset!

so he should be ... he had his pants pulled down

daniher has to go..... it is time

Cameron bruce is suffering from brad millers disease

lets see how many positions we can play him in 2 weeeks

BRUCE played forward , backline and centre in the space of 10 mins WTF daniher.... no wonder he couldnt get into the game 2night

[Nicho 1]

My untouchables are McLean, Rivers, Sylvia, Bate and Davey.

Take anyone else.

I concur with the above untouchables but will add Bell, Jonsey, White, Moloney, PJ, robbo, ricky Bobby to the list...

Im prepared to give Greenie another chance aqs long as he plays courageous footy...

Basically try to get something for Yze

keep Bruce unless someone offers us two first rounders.

Trade Miller but remember kpp are valuable and should not be traded for nothing.

Trade Dunn

Trade Jamar

Trade CJ unless he shows he can actually perform at the highest level

Trade wheatley, Godfrey, holland if anyone wanted them.

[diesel 420]

BRUCE played forward , backline and centre in the space of 10 mins WTF daniher.... no wonder he couldnt get into the game 2night

Well he is an on-baller! BTW he played all those positions ineffectively and drop punts at goal from the boundary line, deep in the pocket on your wrong side are low percentage. Even Richo would have known to go the Banana for that one.

[BrownlowBruce 1]

Well he is an on-baller! BTW he played all those positions ineffectively and drop punts at goal from the boundary line, deep in the pocket on your wrong side are low percentage. Even Richo would have known to go the Banana for that one.

terrible post...

on ballers are CHB ? are FF? and play in the middle no dip [censored]... it means they follow the ball

bannana is never considered a high % kick

BECAUSE IT IS KICKED a low % of the time

[faultydet 7,593]

"Basically try to get something for Yze"

My nephew lives a couple of doors down from Yzes manager. He told me at the start of the year that Yze told his manager that this would be his last year. Forget trade value.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,192]

Bruce has to go. He's been given too many chances and I just don't care for him anymore.

What do you mean 'too many chances'? Almost every week he is our BEST player running his guts out for the team. GET REAL! Maybe delist yourself . The Eagles maybe? They keep on winning!

[Guest bjs]

who to trade

Danners

Yze

They are my definites. But yes Its time to rebuild.

20 yrs ago we had a club at the forefront of lateral thinking.We turned an Irishman into a star.Our current coach seems unable get the best out of "a born to be footballler" like Mclean and has sent a fiery, unlearned thoroughbread like Miller to the scrapheap.The latter for me the more frustrating to the point of utter confusion.Miller plays as if he is suffering similar befuddlement.Trade no .Sack yes.

Give us Nathan Buckley in our coachs box, whatever the cost.His precosity as a coach and level of respect is so high now it has made me forget how much I despised him. A fair achievement condidering I hated his guts.If Collingwood baulk and keep Buckley in any coaching capacity grab Malthouse.If he sees Bucks along side him in the box he will gather his departure is inevitable.

Buckley suffers no fools and still holds his judgements with a fair amount of circumspect.He knows the game better than anyone and would walk through our doors carrying that great mix of scary ,raw icentive and respect.

Malthouse brings with him a past which includes 2 premierships with one club and a resume at Collingwood of competing.He created a team that could mix it with perhaps afls greatest ever team in Brisbane .He did this with a far inferior list.

Malthouse now seems to be creating a team capable of leaving a positive legacy. .He also seems to be in charge of a unit of implementation.The young irishman case in point.Imagine what he could do with Miller.His record shows a cyclical pattern.He adapts and will again.

We would revel in either of the above scenarios and the icing would be in the knowledge our board has the capacity to outwit our greatest foe.

I have no idea who we should trade ,our coach has created an environment of inconsistancy providing it impossible to draw a line through the names of players.

I believe Malthouse or Buckley will atleast give us an indication of who deserves to stay and who deserves to go.

[Kit Walker 207]

Trade Dunn

The kid's all of 20 years old and was a first round draft pick. I'm as angry as anyone about last night but let's be sensible. Dunn has a hell of a lot of talent and deserves a lot more time to realise it.

[jacey 333]

IMO

Every playa is up for trade if the price is right.

X's What other clubs will pay for them

Bartram 2-3 round. Too good for 2nd or 3rd round. KEEP.

Bate Late first round. KEEP.

Bell Early second round. KEEP.

Bizzell Nothing. 50/50 Keep/Delist. If stay, reduced salary.

Brown Nothing. Ur a champ but forced RETIRE.

Bruce 1st round. Pick 5-10. 50/50 Trade/Keep.

Buckley Nothing. 50/50 Keep/Delist.

Carroll 2-3 round. KEEP.

Davey Late first round. KEEP.

Dunn 2 round. Keep.

Ferguson Nothing. Delist.

Frawley Early second round. KEEP.

Garland 5-6 round. KEEP.

Godfrey Nothing. KEEP. Can't delist everyone basket.

Green Early 2 round. 50/50 KEEP/Trade.

Hayes Nothing. KEEP.

Holland Nothing. KEEP. Can't delist everyone basket.

Jamar 4-5 round. Trade.

CJ Nothing. 50/50 KEEP/Delist.

PJ 3-4 round. KEEP.

TJ Mid to late 1st round. 50/50. Trade/Keep

Jones Mid 1st round. KEEP.

McDonald Nothing. KEEP.

Mclean KEEP.

Miller Nothing. 70/30. Delist/KEEP.

Moloney 2-3 round. KEEP.

Neitz Nothing. KEEP.

Neville Nothing. DELIST.

Newton Nothing. KEEP.

Petterd Late first round. KEEP

Pickett Nothing. 50/50 Delist/Keep

Rivers Mid 1st round. KEEP

Robbo Nothing. KEEP

Sylvia Early 2nd round. KEEP

Ward Nothing. Delist/ ? Can't Delist everyone basket.

Warnock. Nothing. 50/50 Delist/ Keep

Wheatley 3-4 round. KEEP

Whelan Not much. KEEP.

White Nothing. KEEP but for god sake play him somewhere else.

Yze Nothing. Retire?

[titan_uranus 22,527]

Hey - if you've never heard of me it coz i'm new. I say trade one of Jamar, Ferguson (though probably no one would want him) or Miller. Probs Jamar coz ruckman are a premium in some places (e.g. Carlton). Trade Warnock since we never play him. I wanna say delist Godfrey and Holland but at least they try. Must keep Davey because he has the potential to change games (just wish they played him as a crumbing forward). Don't think we should get rid of Dunn just yet - I see talent there.

My burning question: If a club actually did want any of the aforementioned players, who should Melbourne be looking for?

[occo 2]

Hey - if you've never heard of me it coz i'm new. I say trade one of Jamar, Ferguson (though probably no one would want him) or Miller. Probs Jamar coz ruckman are a premium in some places (e.g. Carlton). Trade Warnock since we never play him. I wanna say delist Godfrey and Holland but at least they try. Must keep Davey because he has the potential to change games (just wish they played him as a crumbing forward). Don't think we should get rid of Dunn just yet - I see talent there.

My burning question: If a club actually did want any of the aforementioned players, who should Melbourne be looking for?

Godfrey shouldnt be touched

[titan_uranus 22,527]

Godfrey shouldnt be touched

I agree, that's what I meant.

[sylvinator 96]

I agree, that's what I meant.

guyz like godfrey, ferguson, holland and ward have zero trade value.

last year ward, ferguson and others were offered for trade. nobody was interested.

the guyz who might have 3rd 4th round value include miller and jamar. if someone wants them for that price we should definitely take it, because otherwize they will just be delisted and we'll get nothing for them.

if we want to get a serious player into the club then guyz like davey, bruce or green have to put up for trade. people must get real. if u want quality you have to be willing to trade quality.

i also think we should looking at getting some better, younger depth players. i wouldnt be averse to getting a couple of fringe players from the top afl clubs who cant get a game this year.

i think i guy like Nicoski (WCE), Ryley Dunn (Freo), Ryan Murphy (Freo), Kane Tenace (geelong), Shannon Byrnes (geelong), Jaymie Graham (WCE) could be much better depth than our current list outside our best 22, plus they are young and can improve.

[deanox 8,676]

Bruce wouldn't have much trade value after getting towelled up by Daniel Jackson. DANIEL JACKSON FFS!!!!

i cant believe he got towled up by the nerd from star gate...pft.

[deanox 8,676]

Bruce wouldn't have much trade value after getting towelled up by Daniel Jackson. DANIEL JACKSON FFS!!!!

Bruce 1st round. Pick 5-10. 50/50 Trade/Keep.

Davey Late first round. KEEP.

Green Early 2 round. 50/50 KEEP/Trade.

Jamar 4-5 round. Trade.

CJ Nothing. 50/50 KEEP/Delist.

TJ Mid to late 1st round. 50/50. Trade/Keep

Miller Nothing. 70/30. Delist/KEEP.

of those players if i could get a pick 5-10 for bruce i'd take it straight away. same for green. i'd even consider taking 5-14 for either of those two. perhaps a pick and a top up player who prob wont play but is gonna be better than pick 80 anyway...

for jamar i reckon we could get a late 2nd round or early 3rd. he is a ruck who can tap, if a team has a hole he is worth it if they cant afford to wait 5 years for a rookie development. id trade TJ for the same as bruce and green.

CJ and miller i see as trade bait, not as the main attraction but as added bonus. ie bruce plus miller to brisbane for pick 4. green and CJ to west coast from picks 16 and another player, or perhaps for picks 16 and 48.

they wont get much themselves but might drag out more in a trade.

fwiw we are going to have a high first rounder. i would be ecstatic if we could secure 2 more first round picks, even if its at the expense of bruce and TJ. i dont think we'll win the flag next year, and its a great way to rebuild. but only if we can get top 15 or 20 picks, and preferably higher picks.

fwiw i have tj's no. on my jumper, but if he's gotta go, he's gotta go.

[Jones_a_legend 0]

I beleive we should:

KEEP: (definitly)

Jones (just too good for a young player)

Bate

Carroll (hes just a scary looking defender, anyone who will look at him will be scared)

Davey

Frawley

Johnstone

Mclean

Neitz

Newton

Petterd

Dunn

Rivers

Robertson

[fired up 77]

Davey is not untouchable (very, very few, if any, are) but is highly unlikely.

We have the wrong Davey Or the wrong coach .

[beelzebub 22,230]

Im still not convinced Carrol ( whilst better0 is still the real anser down back.. If an opportunity arose to utilise him in a trade...and we get a possibly better KPB as a reult of that or other trades Id let him go.