30 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Nonsense. The club knew all about Oliver's problems when they did the deal. Maybe they never thought it would spiral the way it did, but at a minimum they should have included certain protections.

it is very easy to throw cash at a star player. Lamb should not be applauded for doing so.

List management is not a short term game - but he has consistently made short term decisions that jeopardise the future of the club. Not strategic, not part of a cohesive vision - just re sign the stars (regardless of their issues) and pick up [censored] at the finish & around the fringes to make it look like you're doing something. Oh, and trade out of all future drafts too.

He has constantly traded the future for the present, and we are paying for it BIG TIME right now.

As soon as this period finishes, he should unequivocally be given his marching orders.

(Unless he lands Bailey Humphrey)

You are clearly furious with the Kossie contract that was needed to keep him too.

7 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Even thought I am critical of Lamb if the Suns are paying 100% of his salary then Picks 7 and 8 is a good deal. Humphrey was never coming and we should stop moaning about this.

If this is the deal the Suns are landing a steal.

This isn’t a win / win, it’s a massive win / lose.

If we take it, it says Trac must be toxic.

18 minutes ago, PaulR said:

What if not moving Clarry on last year was the board’s decision and not Lambs?

Then sack Green!

5 minutes ago, No10 said:

If this is the deal the Suns are landing a steal.

This isn’t a win / win, it’s a massive win / lose.

If we take it, it says Trac must be toxic.

When you consider he's about to be 30 and has already started regressing in 2025 I don't see how you could have that view. Very rarely are two top 10 picks relinquished for a player, let alone one with 2, maybe 3 great seasons left. And yeah, his on field antics were toxic this season.

Edited Tuesday at 22:461 day by RedFox

12 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Let’s face it we were all smitten with Clarry Choo Choo at the time and would have been disgusted with the club had we lost him to another club. We had no reason to believe his form would not continue in a similar vein to his previous seven years, [censored] happens unfortunately. How could we have known that Clayton would go off the rails, Gus would be knocked unconscious and retired and that Tracc would be so badly injured that he fell out of love with the club in a two year period. It’s not the clubs fault it is just mind numbing tragic.

Spot on DeeZone, a trail of destruction that no one in the FD or board could have seen coming.

50 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Nonsense. The club knew all about Oliver's problems when they did the deal. Maybe they never thought it would spiral the way it did, but at a minimum they should have included certain protections.

it is very easy to throw cash at a star player. Lamb should not be applauded for doing so.

List management is not a short term game - but he has consistently made short term decisions that jeopardise the future of the club. Not strategic, not part of a cohesive vision - just re sign the stars (regardless of their issues) and pick up [censored] at the finish & around the fringes to make it look like you're doing something. Oh, and trade out of all future drafts too.

He has constantly traded the future for the present, and we are paying for it BIG TIME right now.

As soon as this period finishes, he should unequivocally be given his marching orders.

(Unless he lands Bailey Humphrey)

Lamb has constantly traded the future for the present and we have been able to use the pay it forward tactic and get multiple high picks in multiple years on a consistence basis and set us up for the future.

There I fixed it for you.

13 minutes ago, No10 said:

If this is the deal the Suns are landing a steal.

This isn’t a win / win, it’s a massive win / lose.

If we take it, it says Trac must be toxic.

So imagine if we don’t make a trade today and he has to return! I think I will spent the next year hiding under the Doona.

Just now, old dee said:

So imagine if we don’t make a trade today and he has to return! I think I will spent the next year hiding under the Doona.

Got room for me?

19 minutes ago, No10 said:

If this is the deal the Suns are landing a steal.

This isn’t a win / win, it’s a massive win / lose.

If we take it, it says Trac must be toxic.

It's a fine deal. It's a better offer than what Merrett and Curnow are getting offers for which says a lot.

1 hour ago, fr_ap said:

Nonsense. The club knew all about Oliver's problems when they did the deal. Maybe they never thought it would spiral the way it did, but at a minimum they should have included certain protections.

it is very easy to throw cash at a star player. Lamb should not be applauded for doing so.

List management is not a short term game - but he has consistently made short term decisions that jeopardise the future of the club. Not strategic, not part of a cohesive vision - just re sign the stars (regardless of their issues) and pick up [censored] at the finish & around the fringes to make it look like you're doing something. Oh, and trade out of all future drafts too.

He has constantly traded the future for the present, and we are paying for it BIG TIME right now.

As soon as this period finishes, he should unequivocally be given his marching orders.

(Unless he lands Bailey Humphrey)

Lamb the ever losing gambler.

What he has served up post the flag is reaching D grade returns.

CP5 and CO13, two sides of a faded, yet highly collectable penny.

Lmao, Carlton rejecting two great players for Curnow and we are saying yes to two picks and losing a pick and a player. What a joke of a club we are.

1 minute ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

Lmao, Carlton rejecting two great players for Curnow and we are saying yes to two picks and losing a pick and a player. What a joke of a club we are.

2 great players? It’s 1 good player in Hayward and 1 guy who battled away in the vfl in Florent.

Overall I’d take the Swans deal but the picks are worse than the ones we are offered so of course Hayward has to make up for it.

And Curnow is more valuable than Tracc.

I like the guys Carlton have brought in. Especially Chesser for a cheap price. But they’re topping up a team that’s still going nowhere unless Walsh and Jagga Smith become stars.

I’d rather pick a direction with a new coach.

52 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Got room for me?

Yep! I will even let you pick the sheet colours. Now I await for all the smart replies!

36 minutes ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

Lmao, Carlton rejecting two great players for Curnow and we are saying yes to two picks and losing a pick and a player. What a joke of a club we are.

Two great players, huh?

35 minutes ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

Lmao, Carlton rejecting two great players for Curnow and we are saying yes to two picks and losing a pick and a player. What a joke of a club we are.

Could it be the AFL operating undercover?

GC is owned by the AFL and it is in their best interest to strengthen GC.

Just a thought.

Tim “Head Turner” Lamb needs to deliver big on the Trac deal or he should be removed. Simple.

1 minute ago, Gorgoroth said:

Tim “Head Turner” Lamb needs to deliver big on the Trac deal or he should be removed. Simple.

I got told to zip my lip on Hannibal!

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Lamb the ever losing gambler.

What he has served up post the flag is reaching D grade returns.

Kenny Rogers is watching you Tim Lamb. The Losing Gambler.

Surely has to go after this disastrous trade period. We are a joke.

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Got room for me?

49 minutes ago, old dee said:

Yep! I will even let you pick the sheet colours. Now I await for all the smart replies!

When did Demonland change from being a bulletin board to a dating app?

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Got room for me?

What, you want to sleep with Trac?

I think we're in a win-win situation.

Land Humphrey and we become better quicker.

Don't land Humphrey and we get two picks that we can trade aggressively to try and get an earlier pick or we take two kids in the top 12.

As it stands, we have a handy pick at the start of the second round that we either use on Pickett Jnr or trying to flip it into a future first for next year's crop.

Can we get Robey? Is Josh Lindsay within our grasp? Do we land a Dovaston? These kids won't necessarily make us better straight away, but in time they will. In JT we trust.

We clean the cultural slate with Trac and Clarry. Does May go today too? Probably not. Do we get a solid cultural citizen and leader like Jack Steele? Hopefully. We are very skinny for midfield depth in more ways than one.

On ball movement, @Axis of Bob has convinced me CJ is the Epipen to opening up our ball movement and encouraging more risk from the back half. Add to that, we definitely have more pace now. Windsor, Kozzy, Chandler and CJ. Who do we go for in the draft?

Next year will see some more growing pains, but if all goes well, we can really attack free agency and trades at the end of 2026. We need a top 8 finish or close to do this. Natural improvement from our youngsters, better ball movement and less predictable forward play will close the gap of losing Clarry and Trac IMV, but the x factor is in the game style and new talent emerging that will tell us whether we can get near enough to the 8.

Delisted : Marty Hore, Tom Fullarton, Oliver Sestan, Will Verrall, Kynan Brown, Jack Billings. 

Departed, Free agent: Charlie Spargo North Melbourne)

Going home/ trade departure: Judd McVee (Fremantle)

Farewell/ Traded out with sadness: Christian Petracca 💔 (Suns) Clayton Oliver💔(Giants)

10 departures

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Who’s arrived: Max Heath (trade, St Kilda), Brody Mihocek (trade, Collingwood), Changkuoth Jiath (trade, Hawks) , Jack Steele (trade, St Kilda)

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MFC list 

key defenders: May, Tmcd, Adams

tall defenders: Lever, D.Turner, Howes

med/sml/running defenders:  Bowey, Salem, Lindsay, AMW, Jiath.

inside Mids: Viney, Steele, Langford , Laurie

Runners/outside Mids: Rivers, Langdon, Windsor, Woey jnr

Mid/fwd: Kozzzy, Kolt, Sparrow, Culley

key forwards: Mihocek , JVR, Petty, Jefferson , Kentfield, Johnson

med-tall forwards: Fritsch, Melksham, Mcadam

small forwards: Chandler, Sharp, Henderson, Mentha

Rucks: Gawn,  Campbell , Heath

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Likely arrivals - Kalani White (Father son), Toby Sinnema (NGA, rookie)

Also likely to bring in 3 new players through the draft/SSP

Whatever your thoughts on Lamb, we always get the deals done