After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

I won’t be watching I know that

OUT: AJ, Lever
IN: JVR/Jeffo (flip a coin), McDonald

I hate the pies with a passion but their kicking skills were sublime against the Hawks

They will slice and dice us

JVR in for AJ i suppose

leave the rest of the team as is. its just shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic anyways given we can't kick for toffee

Outs: AJ, Lever & Oliver

Ins: JVR, Tmac & Viney

AJ is no good. Sharp can have a spell too.

Also, chocko out.

Out: Johnson (susp.), Laurie

In: van Rooyen, Viney

I’m gutted with that outcome, but I don’t think this warrants an overreaction at selection. Whatever our problem was in that game won’t be fixed by moving magnets.

Another no-show like today would truly make us mince for the Pies.

The Johnson experiment is surely over. He has everything except talent.

Lever is under-cooked but even that does not excuse his woeful performance today.

Presumably Viney and either JVR or Jefferson will come in to shuffle the deckchairs on our rapidly sinking ship.

If Viney is still not ready, genuine fears for his career will not be far away.

Sad thing is if we had won today as expected there would have been real hype and an exciting buildup to the KB clash but as per usual we couldn't hold up our end of the deal.

Collingwood are primed for a record number of out the back and Joe the goose goals.

This is gonna hurt, big time

Maybe we can kick 25 behinds against the pies

The guide dog association has offered to help with next week's game. Training with guide dogs in front of goal. Next week's score to improve and likely to be 7.24

47 minutes ago, adonski said:

OUT: AJ, Lever
IN: JVR/Jeffo (flip a coin), McDonald

This, but Viney also in, Laurie out (Sharp sub). Probably JVR in for 2nd ruck duties. If his hands are still made of cement, then straight back to Casey.

Lever is probably one of those players who will never be dropped, but after his 2 return games he really should be. Tmac’s form has been way better than what Rick has offered up in the 2 games (and last 3 years tbh).

If Lever actually got a sustained run at Casey taking gimme intercepts, it might do him the world of good.

Personnel isn't going to matter if we bring that level of pressure/effort. Doubt we go for drastic changes.

Out: Johnson, Laurie

In: JvR, Viney (if fit)

Tough on Laurie given the state of the game when he was subbed in but he is last in and first out most likely.

Injury watch on Melkshams' shoulder perhaps?

AJ to get two weeks, straight swap for jVR. If Viney is fit then he comes in to replace probably Laurie.

DO we roll the dice and put Jeffo in? Melks and Fritta did OK, except for their goal kicking……

Won’t matter - we have to defend like we did for most of the day and then take our chances the other way. When we defended poorly early, they piled on 6 goals. They scored sporadically after that - but when we kick 1.12 that is all they needed to do.

Type of player I disliked playing with. Lot of possessions but never found a man. Plenty like that in Junior footy. They win all the awards and get drafted without any one caring or noticing they can’t kick or take an overhead mark. Happy to be proven wrong but again today he had an opportunity to make a valuable kick and he couldn’t do it.

If the Saints match was very like us, then running Collingwood very close (and nailing shots from everywhere) is also very much like us.

I am terrified of what the Pies will do to us on KB. I haven’t been able to watch them play since that terrible violent act by that thug against Gus.

I am in the unfortunate situation being married to a passionate Pies supporter who will expect me to either go to the game with him or watch it together on the TV.

1 hour ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

7 goals and 21 behinds

It’s quite the skill to kick so many behinds 😂

Sharp was horrible today, has to make way for Viney.

3 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Sharp was horrible today, has to make way for Viney.

He's been horrible in every full game hes played. Folks on here get so blinded by his occasional sum cameos every now and then.

Hes a sub par VFL standard player.

1 hour ago, BKKBooga said:

The guide dog association has offered to help with next week's game. Training with guide dogs in front of goal. Next week's score to improve and likely to be 7.24

Our forwards would probably trip over the dog.

40 minutes ago, jane02 said:

I am terrified of what the Pies will do to us on KB. I haven’t been able to watch them play since that terrible violent act by that thug against Gus.

I am in the unfortunate situation being married to a passionate Pies supporter who will expect me to either go to the game with him or watch it together on the TV.

We’re in the same boat

Fortunately I am in northern nsw so can’t go to game s

23 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He's been horrible in every full game hes played. Folks on here get so blinded by his occasional sum cameos every now and then.

Hes a sub par VFL standard player.

He's a decent sub role player.

I think we pulled the wrong rein today with Laurie as sub and Spark as a starter. I thought that before the game too.

That said, Laurie was horrible when he came on.