12% goal kicking efficiency

132 pressure rating

1.12 in the 2nd half

Disgusting

11 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Libby Birch was spot on in her analysis in The Age podcast last week. Nailed it to the ground. Pathetic performance by the Club.

What did she say?

This team continuely drains the fuccing life out of me on a constant basis.

Then early on today I recieve a friendly reminder from the club that my membership fees are coming out Monday June 2.

You want my money, get a set of coaches to learn how to kick in-between the big white sticks.

4 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Amongst all that, good to see McVee back to something like his best. Turner really consolidating himself as a first-tier key defender.

Probably a few other positives - but perhaps not the time.

youngsters a big positive for mine.

let's go and get a proper skills / kicking coach to ensure we get full value from this young group

Not sure where we find one, but we've got to get a decent key position forward. AJ and Petty are NOT the answer. If we had that pillar to build a forward line structure and game plan around it would make all the difference.

AJ brings very little (sorry to say), and Petty just isn't a one-on-one forward (or back for that matter).

I suspect we'll see Jeffo and perhaps JVR next week.

How typical

Just now, Demon Dynasty said:

There's no way of telling anyone of importance at the club. It's a closed shop now with zero input from fans in terms of letting anyone within the club know about any grievances or constructive criticism / suggestions / ideas etc.

Probably the same at most clubs i assume.

I know but I just had to vent.

All my emails never went anywhere despite me signing them...not a crackpot.

10 minutes ago, PVardy said:

Disgraceful kicking. Game on the line couldn't kick one goal in the last quarter. Lowest pressure quarter by the club under Goodwin.

Lowest pressure match under Goodwin too, I believe.

Let's wait to see the pressure stats on that count, but if you don't bring pressure, you let them transition the ball from one end of the ground to the other, and have simple marks at the top of the goal square. Didn't Butler have all his goals from the top of the square?

You can't let Wanganeen-Milera run around by himself though.

1 minute ago, Demon Dynasty said:

There's no way of telling anyone of importance at the club. It's a closed shop now with zero input from fans in terms of letting anyone of importance within the club know about any grievances or constructive criticism / suggestions / ideas etc.

Probably the same at most clubs i assume.

Oh no, what will the club do if supporters don’t tell them that bad goal kicking is bad? They’ll never know!!! 🙄

Ball between two big sticks =6 points

Ball between 1 big stick and 1 small stick= 1 point.

Spend more time on kicking between 2 big sticks

2 minutes ago, BDA said:

let's go and get a proper skills / kicking coach to ensure we get full value from this young group

For the young'uns the issue isn't skills per se, it's execution under pressure. Only way round that is time and experience.

8 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

This is the exact reason we can't pull crowds to games.
The same reason Melbourne supporters who do show up are reserved early game.
You just cannot trust them.

A win today and there would've been 70-80k next weekend.
Now I'll tip 65.
55 of which will be Collingwood.

Yeah. bring 'em on.

Yep, it is now a case of we, the supporters, not trusting the Dees to win. I go to games or turn on the TV and I know that players are going to repeatedly stuff up great transition play by poor skills in kicking for goal.

I hate to admit this, but I just don't trust us to win games. I know we will be competitive in most games, but our kicking cannot be trusted. And I am really sick of it.

If the game had been played at the G we'd still have lost it. We may have been putrid but I didn't spend a cent watching it and the club collected $800k.

A stack of smothered forward handballs when it looked like we were open in space.

A bigger issue is our inability to apply our structures on the smaller grounds. It’s another reason we shouldn’t be selling a game at the MCG, despite the positive community impact in Alice Springs, where I believe we beat St Kilda.

Wins paper over the flaws consistent in our players - Sparrows minimal production, Sharp impacting only as a sub, Clayton’s blast kicks to the oppo best key back, Max putrid goal kicking, Windsor skill execution.

Giants only just beat Richmond

Pies smashed Hawks

Brisbane had a scare

Suns got beat by Freo

Weird results around the bye.

It’s a long season and we’re only half way through.

Last week Clarry was very quick to praise Goody and Selwyn.

Im keeping the faith.

Was that our finals campaign killed?

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

Oh no, what will the club do if supporters don’t tell them that bad goal kicking is bad? They’ll never know!!! 🙄

Not referring to goal kicking as such Jaded.

Merely pointing out that there is no longer any way to contact anyone of importance at the club and raise concerns about anything.

Calm down everyone

We won the expected score 82.7 to 81.8

As mind numbing as the goal misses were, it's the frequency of them each game and year that really bites.

It cost us a flag not long ago and that wasn't enough to fix it so I can't see the club doing much now. And even if they do, why now after another season squandered.

Ironically it was Tracc who kicked true today. Max for some reason refuses to look at the goals when he's lining up.....just looks down at the ball always when running in...and does not run in but stabs at it.

Melksham uncharacteristically wasteful . ... sore shoulder perhaps.

Kozzies first attempt was terrible.

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The worst part for me is that I’m not even a bit angry. Just resigned to being let down .

Never mind a membership reminder text the club should text all of us an apology for serving up that slop. Disgusting display that has just about killed any chance of us making the 8 this year.

Were we loading?

I hope the club is as embarrassed as we are angry.

We’ve not only just [censored] 4 points down the drain, we somehow managed to again lose by 30 points, taking yet another percentage hit.

We conceded 6 goals in the first quarter to St Kilda. They’d barely kicked 6 goals to three quarter time in the last two months.

Despite our strong effort last week it was concerning the number of cheap easy goals we conceded out the back to the swans. Against the saints it was much the same.

Absolutely pathetic from us today. There's no way around it. We looked like we were at the beach from the get-go. Thinking it would just happen. No-one wanted to work.

The only concession I'll give today is for the weather, it looked pretty hot not my god have you ever seen so many handballs, not kicks HANDBALLS intercepted by an opposition player 2 metres away? Don't get me wrong there were plenty of kicks smothered too, this would have been one of the toughest games for a cameraman to shoot because you're expecting so many territory winning possessions that don't end up going anywhere.

We brought some more intensity after the first but still looked casual, still made dumb skill errors and then came the misses. Holy hell the only thing worse than getting wiped by a million points is creating enough chances to get yourself back in it and possibly even win and fail to get anywhere near the league average. We kicked 1.12 in that second half after Petty worked his butt off to get that free. At this rate our next goal will be next year.

And the thing that absolutely [censored] me to high heaven is that we were playing one of the most bang average teams around, it is harsh but I will prove it. Don't get me wrong after we gifted them their momentum in the first the Saints did play some pretty good footy but they were at times just as bad as us. They had a truckload of possessions, we had a pressure rating of 130 and we WERE STILL IN THE FRICKING GAME. Sorry but if we played any other team today it would habe been 2024 Alice 9 times out of 10. I'd even say if Wanganeen-Milera stayed on ground for the whole game we would have lost by 8 goals plus.

So now the season is dead again. It was bound to happen at some point. If you want to go and trudge out 5 losses to start the season then you have to accept the fact that is no margin for error at all on games like this. Put one over the hottest team in football next week and there might be a pulse but there is no parallel universe where we beat Collingwood next week, one at all. The poor guys will still be feeling the heat of Alice no doubt.

Anyway I'm really sick this weekend so apologies for the delirium. Thanks for the pick me up Melb.

Just now, jnrmac said:

Calm down everyone

We won the expected score 82.7 to 81.8

While I’m a big believer in expected score as an indicator of performance, what it can’t account for is the scoreboard pressure that gets applied when a team kicks straight

Confidence rises, the opposition panics and games can look very different very quickly

Imagine if in the third qtr of the grand final we kicked 3 behinds in the last minute of play instead of 3 goals? It could have been a very different game in the fourth

4 minutes ago, bing181 said:

For the young'uns the issue isn't skills per se, it's execution under pressure. Only way round that is time and experience.

Bs. We have been losing games like this for 7 years

2nd semi v Carlton in 2023. 9 goals 17b

We never learn but you'll always find an excuse