6 minutes ago, SPC said:

Turner on current form is better than Lever in that role. Will depend on how they play Turner and where.

Lever is still valuable, but his ankles have crippled his footy.

Turner is in career best form and should be in the side for the flexibility he brings. Lever is one of the best intercept markers in the game and crucial to our backline structure, I don't see a reason where we have to pick one or the other.

I'll be very disappointed if we dont win this, Sydney still have half their side out and look very short all over the ground where we are at full strength

4 hours ago, jackaub said:

Viney in Sharp out Spargo out Brown in

i really like Sharp he competes and get into great positons and chases

could have kicked 3 unfortunately a serial offender in front of goals

agree 100%, he just lacks alot of polish with the ball

I'm surprised this isn't well known. The centre square is 50m by 50m. That's a policy.

The 50m arc is a guideline. I believe it is under 45m at SCG.

As I tell newbies at work a policy is just a posted guideline that has been laminated.

18 hours ago, jaydenh10 said:

if turner gets dropped we riot, was in our best 3 on sunday

It would be unacceptable and getting way too cute at selection if we drop Turner. He’s already harshly been dropped once this year.

either:

1) rest one of T Mac or May and retain Turner down back.

2) drop AJ and send Turner forward. I would have a second ruck committee of Turner and Petty and concede a few hit outs to Ladhams which won’t be the end of the world.

Prefer option 2.

Sharp the other player to be dropped.

Edited May 22May 22 by Bring-Back-Powell

2 hours ago, D Rev said:

You know how maths works, yeah?

I think I do DR - and it looks like @Demonstone does as well. Why do you ask?

Ranking our team v lions in order of importance (in terms of impact if they were injured/unavailable)

Gawn

Petracca

Oliver Pickett

Rivers Bowey Langdon

Tmcd May Turner Petty Melksham

Salem Mcvee Chandler Sparrow Windsor Langford Lindsay

AJ Fritsch

Sharp Spargo

(Disclaimer imv )

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

Spargo would struggle to get a game at any other club including Richmond, Norf and West Coast!

this reminds when most of when demonland were giving it to chandler early this year after a couple of poor performances. not taking into account any injury concerns, game plan etc. they have shut up now.

19 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Ranking our team v lions in order of importance (in terms of impact if they were injured/unavailable)

Gawn

Petracca

Oliver Pickett

Rivers Bowey Langdon

Tmcd May Turner Petty Melksham

Salem Mcvee Chandler Sparrow Windsor Langford Lindsay

AJ Fritsch

Sharp Spargo

(Disclaimer imv )

no Melksham is up the top of that list. his asset is our biggest weakness.

1 hour ago, Damo said:

The 50m arc is a guideline. I believe it is under 45m at SCG.

According to Mr Google this was perhaps one of those urban myths but I do agree that unlike some other lines it can have a little give and take

3 hours ago, D Rev said:

You know how dimensions work, yeah?

I do. 155 metres is only five metres shorter than 160 metres.

That's a difference of a mere 2.5 metres in each direction from the centre circle. (Imagine Max Gawn with his arms up ... about that distance)

The SCG is almost the same length as the MCG. Any further queries should be directed to my Captain.

16 hours ago, Adam The God said:

A score involvement means his disposal hasn't broken down in a chain that results in a score.

If you go back to my original rebuttal, it was to be debunk the idea that Charlie was a poor kick.

Agree. Not sure how anyone thinks he is a poor kick. Spargo is not back to his 2018-23 kicking level yet but he will get there. His kicking is as good as anyone playing in the forward half. His career goal average is 0.6 v Miers at 0.7. Miers has spent 17% more time on ground in his career as well. He needs more kicks but maybe we just need to accept he will be 7 kicks a game and they will be impactful. As long as he combines that with pressure he shouldn’t be dropped.

28 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

I do. 155 metres is only five metres shorter than 160 metres.

That's a difference of a mere 2.5 metres in each direction from the centre circle. (Imagine Max Gawn with his arms up ... about that distance)

The SCG is almost the same length as the MCG. Any further queries should be directed to my Captain.

Get your Captain to measure it on google maps with their handy distance measuring tool and report back. Looks more like 150m (which would mean an honest 50m arc would touch the mandated centre square.)

I note the ABC stated that they had lengthened the ground since 2007. Not sure how they did that.

Edited May 22May 22 by sue

23 hours ago, roy11 said:

Agree we need more goals from Spargs, but worth noting there's only 5 players at the club with more Goal Assists. So wouldn't crucify him for that one too much.
Chuck also 3rd highest tackles inside F50 for the Dees.
He's never going to light a match on fire, so the spot is his until someone comes along with better attributes. Uncertain if that is K.Brown or not.
Would like us to draft/trade another small forward who has more 'elite' stats than 'average'.

Would prefer Spargo, who some excuse as coming back from injury, playing a few weeks at Casey with K Brown herring a decent seniors run in the same role.

Come list management time we will have the likes of Brown and Woey without sufficient exposure from which to make a hard call.

18 hours ago, Garbo said:

So tmac then?

or May (managed)?

18 hours ago, Adam The God said:

A score involvement means his disposal hasn't broken down in a chain that results in a score.

If you go back to my original rebuttal, it was to be debunk the idea that Charlie was a poor kick.

so does that mean that every player in a chain from deep defence to a goal of uninterrupted would get a goal assist? Just asking.

2 hours ago, Bay Riffin said:

this reminds when most of when demonland were giving it to chandler early this year after a couple of poor performances. not taking into account any injury concerns, game plan etc. they have shut up now.

Recovering from a long injury layoff with half a dozen senior games doesn’t seem logical to me. Lever came back (or will be coming back) via Casey so why not Spargo?

58 minutes ago, sue said:

Get your Captain to measure it on google maps with their handy distance measuring tool and report back. Looks more like 150m (which would mean an honest 50m arc would touch the mandated centre square.)

I note the ABC stated that they had lengthened the ground since 2007. Not sure how they did that.

Maybe the usual ABC “fact checker”?🤔

1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

I do. 155 metres is only five metres shorter than 160 metres.

That's a difference of a mere 2.5 metres in each direction from the centre circle. (Imagine Max Gawn with his arms up ... about that distance)

The SCG is almost the same length as the MCG. Any further queries should be directed to my Captain.

I think your missing drevs point ds - as I noted it's also 5 metres narrower.

Which means there's less area.

Which us why over the last 10 seasons the average score there is aprox 10 points less than at the g, which statistically is very significant.

It's a [censored] ground that's too small for modern AFL footy.

Ditto kardinia Park for exactly the same reason.

11 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Would prefer Spargo, who some excuse as coming back from injury, playing a few weeks at Casey with K Brown herring a decent seniors run in the same role.

Come list management time we will have the likes of Brown and Woey without sufficient exposure from which to make a hard call.

or May (managed)?

so does that mean that every player in a chain from deep defence to a goal of uninterrupted would get a goal assist? Just asking.

Recovering from a long injury layoff with half a dozen senior games doesn’t seem logical to me. Lever came back (or will be coming back) via Casey so why not Spargo?

Maybe the usual ABC “fact checker”?🤔

I do wonder if Tmac is not in better shape than May .

Perhaps it's Lever and May who need managing.

Leave Disco and Tommy alone unless otherwise.. .

I'm not Spargypants greatest fan but he does have footy smarts. Certainly an enigma to me. Goody has mucho faith in him 🤔🤷‍♂️

1 hour ago, sue said:

Get your Captain to measure it on google maps

My Captain sent me to see Private Parts who referred me up the chain to Corporal Punishment and I eventually ended up with a Major Headache.

5 minutes ago, binman said:

I think your missing drevs point ds - as I noted it's also 5 metres narrower.

Which means there's less area.

Which us why over the last 10 seasons the average score there is aprox 10 points less than at the g, which statistically is very significant.

A smaller ground (with shorter distances to cover) should result in higher scores.

1 minute ago, Demonstone said:

A smaller ground (with shorter distances to cover) should result in higher scores.

Sure.

If it was 1977 and zones weren't a thing.

3 minutes ago, binman said:

I think your missing drevs point ds - as I noted it's also 5 metres narrower.

Which means there's less area.

Which us why over the last 10 seasons the average score there is aprox 10 points less than at the g, which statistically is very significant.

It's a [censored] ground that's too small for modern AFL footy.

Ditto kardinia Park for exactly the same reason.

Kittylitter Park is the most offensive ground. Practically missing a wing ffs ( Moorabool St side ), that peatfield is an abomination. Refuse to go there.

I truly think the SCG thing is more a mental thing imo. Get a tape measure and mark off 5m and 9m .. ( resp len and width diff ) ..it's not that much. I don't think so anyways.

Other grounds have greater discrepancies.

Ours perfect..... of course 😉

33 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

My Captain sent me to see Private Parts who referred me up the chain to Corporal Punishment and I eventually ended up with a Major Headache.

Who totally lost the plot with the ensuring General Mayhem.

On 21/05/2025 at 13:33, D Rev said:

tap it from the centre to inside 50 for a 30m kick to goal

Binman: I think your missing drevs point ds - as I noted it's also 5 metres narrower. Which means there's less area.

@D Rev is clearly talking about going straight to goal from the centre bounce. Nothing to do with the width of the ground or overall dimensions.

4 hours ago, Damo said:

As I tell newbies at work a policy is just a posted guideline that has been laminated.

a bit like speed signs and road rules in Italy

Advisable only

Still no Viney…… sheesh