18 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Sorry to tell you Praha but that window's been shut a while now.

You wanna build a Time Machine,, out of a Delorean???

19 hours ago, demoncat said:

I love Viney and think he still has a role to play in the coming years, but a four year extension when he wasn’t even out of contract until end of this year said to me the club needed a feel good story to cover the issues with Trac and Clarry

Bringing in Nathan Jones as midfield coach was a similar move - I mean in what world does a club who thinks they’re competing for finals bring in an untried coach to oversee their midfield?

Again, love Jones, but those moves just reek of a club who panicked and were looking to do PR by extending/bringing in some favourite sons

Those two decisions tells me and the world all they need to know about the management of the footy club

All heart no brains no hardness Softest club in the league assisted by a non existent strategic plan

The board is killing this club, not on purpose but through inadequacy. Don't start on the mates of Goodwin

Who is running this **** show at the moment

10 minutes ago, jackaub said:

Those two decisions tells me and the world all they need to know about the management of the footy club

All heart no brains no hardness Softest club in the league assisted by a non existent strategic plan

The board is killing this club, not on purpose but through inadequacy. Don't start on the mates of Goodwin

Who is running this **** show at the moment

Agreed.

Bar the Peter Jackson reign we've been a rabble off the field/board admin etc. it seems for decades. Very little harmony and smooth sailing.

Until we sort that out we will remain a non destination irrelevant club.

Our failures since the flag beggars belief

9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

There was no talk of rebuild as of October 2024. Clearly the message from Tim Lamb here was to compete and finish as high up as the ladder as we could.

Shhhhhh !!!

A tad inconvenient for today's narrators 😉

10 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

There was no talk of rebuild as of October 2024. Clearly the message from Tim Lamb here was to compete and finish as high up as the ladder as we could.

But remember, it's totally acceptable to move the goal posts and pass mark when your goal becomes unattainable....

20 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Rebuild? Dees cannot afford to bottom out.

• Tassie still likely to come in and will take premier draft picks across two drafts at least

• Our revenue is still low with 2025 membership figures estimated at 56000 in 2025 (down from 65000 on 2024) (down from 70000 in 2023) … I think we are now below Dogs and Saints ( only ahead of Kangas for Vic clubs)

• Relevance? We are already quiet on the AFL agenda except for negative noise around culture and players leaving

• The FIXture. We would be given dead end time slots, even worse than 2025.

• Our last rebuild saw us miss finals for 12 years.

• We need to bounce back NOW and not be satisfied that we were 2021 🏆premiers. Why are we so comfortable with one flag , played in WA , that we all move on in silence

No one is comfortable with one flag. Lot of people here have said it, Goodwin underperformed.

9 hours ago, bing181 said:

But is that because at the end of the day he's still not as fit as he once was? He went a long way backwards last year, and perhaps he needs more than one pre-season to get back up to speed, literally?

The club would have all his fitness data, so presumably they would know if that's the case. Interesting that Goodwin has mentioned in a few press conferences working with Clayton to get him back to the player he was.

Clutching at straws?

Oliver has never been the most agile or fast player. Even Petracca is on the same boat.

Our midfield group was designed for a style of footy that is no longer attractive or successful.

Goodwin had a prime MFC list from 2018 to 2024 to deliver the best results possible.

2025 and beyond is past his coaching style.

Edited July 22Jul 22 by ElDiablo14

Its going to be a very long time until we have the likes of petracca, oliver, gawn again ... cats and pies reset rather then rebuilt ... we should do the same ... its not time to give up on a flag yet ... you are out of contension far too long in rebuild mode with no guarantees picks will be turn to gold ... our list is mostly injury free and can hit pre season hard

59 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Its going to be a very long time until we have the likes of petracca, oliver, gawn again ... cats and pies reset rather then rebuilt ... we should do the same ... its not time to give up on a flag yet ... you are out of contension far too long in rebuild mode with no guarantees picks will be turn to gold ... our list is mostly injury free and can hit pre season hard

Pies got rid of Treloar and Grundy when they no longer fit into their best team. Geelong consistently attract A-grade talent.

5 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

Pies got rid of Treloar and Grundy when they no longer fit into their best team. Geelong consistently attract A-grade talent.

What ... they didn't get rid of them because they were no good ... they didn't have cap space as ed put all his eggs in the premiership basket

5 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

Pies got rid of Treloar and Grundy when they no longer fit into their best team. Geelong consistently attract A-grade talent.

They managed without , but as D1958 offers up perhaps $$ was their undoing. That said it does show you CAN prune the rosebush. We struggle with weeding

14 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

What ... they didn't get rid of them because they were no good ... they didn't have cap space as ed put all his eggs in the premiership basket

Didn't hurt them though which is my point. We've got a bunch of underperforming guys on big coin that we have held onto.

On 21/07/2025 at 23:34, goodwindees said:

Dazz, all I do know is that Clayton is saying to a number of people that the game has got too fast for him. He’s saying he feels slow during games.

I hope Clarry has enough insight to be able to reflect on why that may be. Without wanting to say anything that will get me in trouble on here, a 27/28 yo mid should be in their prime and ripping the competition apart. It is a disservice to himself, his teammates, the club and supporters that this is not the case.

5 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I hope Clarry has enough insight to be able to reflect on why that may be. Without wanting to say anything that will get me in trouble on here, a 27/28 yo mid should be in their prime and ripping the competition apart. It is a disservice to himself, his teammates, the club and supporters that this is not the case.

Agree. The game hasn't gotten too fast for Oliver, he's lost a bunch of pace.

23 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Agree. The game hasn't gotten too fast for Oliver, he's lost a bunch of pace.

Maybe Clayton needs to do a month with McVee’s grandfather or a professional running coach and focus on the 100/200/400m sprints, he’s young enough to adapt and could help him get his mojo back.

On 22/07/2025 at 10:25, ElDiablo14 said:

No one is comfortable with one flag

I am. Didn’t win one for 50+ years.

Sure. I wanted more, but I am happy with one flag.

17 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

I am. Didn’t win one for 50+ years.

Sure. I wanted more, but I am happy with one flag.

there's a clear difference between one making you happy and one being satisfying

one premiership made me happy; made me want another

32 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

there's a clear difference between one making you happy and one being satisfying

one premiership made me happy; made me want another

If we are all being honest, we all loved the flag, but for the majority, being inside our homes in locvdown was not how any of us envisioned the end of the drought. We all expected to fill the G and be singing the song long into the night in the bars at the ground and spilling out into Yarra Park in ecstasy...we still all loved the win...we all saw it...we didn't feel it like we thought we would ...because it wasn't how we imagined it. The thirst for another was far greater because of that. Happy to have seen one. Hungry for more.

In these current circumstances, I think 2026 is where we should be looking, unfortunately

Heard this on the radio the other day

Curnow >> Suns

Trac >> Blues

Jed Walter’s >> Dees.

In a heartbeat.

On 23/07/2025 at 09:56, Dr. Gonzo said:

I hope Clarry has enough insight to be able to reflect on why that may be. Without wanting to say anything that will get me in trouble on here, a 27/28 yo mid should be in their prime and ripping the competition apart. It is a disservice to himself, his teammates, the club and supporters that this is not the case.

I would be honestly surprised if anyone begs to differ.

You can see it out there as evidence. The speed and transition of the game has gone straight past him and it makes sense when Goody said on his SEN interview last week that we will be looking to replenish our midfield stocks to suit a more transition style game plan.

The game has gone past the likes of Viney and Oliver. If Oliver remains with the club, I really do believe he needs ro strip some more weight off just cover the ground more going both ways.

18 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Heard this on the radio the other day

Curnow >> Suns

Trac >> Blues

Jed Walter’s >> Dees.

In a heartbeat.

suns ripped off

walter looks like he'll be one of the best key forwards in the competition for years to come

curnow and trac look like their peak was in the rearview mirror

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I would be honestly surprised if anyone begs to differ.

You can see it out there as evidence. The speed and transition of the game has gone straight past him and it makes sense when Goody said on his SEN interview last week that we will be looking to replenish our midfield stocks to suit a more transition style game plan.

The game has gone past the likes of Viney and Oliver. If Oliver remains with the club, I really do believe he needs ro strip some more weight off just cover the ground more going both ways.

Yep, he's still racking up touches for the most part (though more 25 than 35) but he's just not as damaging as he was. Looks like more of an accumulating plodder than a damaging top 5 in the comp mid.

we dont need a rebuild. we just need our team to play with confidence and self belief.

On 12/04/2025 at 14:17, Return to Glory said:

Probably the wrong forum, but I'm punch drunk. If we are looking at 2026 already, maybe Goodwin should leave now rather than end of year. Get the players (who remain) used to a different system. Rip that band aid off

The problem is that we need a complete clean out of the coaches. The current group have failed at developing our players, save for about three. Sacking Goodwin whilst keeping those under him, will achieve nothing IMO.