5 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Got to give him a month.

Give the lad some confidence.

Nobody gets a month given to you. Needs to compete hard and play a role and go from there

l think some are making the mistake of seeing Fullarton as JVRs replacement.

So JVRs role is as the big forward and the lesser role as the back up. Petty is the replacement for the former while Fullarton is the replacement for the later. He is also the Fritch replacement.

Our main targets going forward todsy were Petty, Melksham and Kozzie.

I thought he showed us a bit today. He wasn't amazing by any means, but he had a hard role, basically warming the bench for Max with some time spent forward here and there. He got in good positions, took a couple of good marks and had some absolutely terrible kicks flying at him when he was deep forward that killed any chance of him actually scoring. One absolute shank that should have been a goal. He wasn't outstanding, but he played his role, broke even with some really good defenders and held up in the ruck. I think he did enough to earn another week.

11 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

Nobody gets a month given to you. Needs to compete hard and play a role and go from there

He'll get a month if he does what he did yesterday.

He will get better, won't be as nervous as yesterday and grow into his performances.

Got to consider the human element of his 1st run for the year.

How good was Max with him in the side yesterday? Getting proper rest periods in, and a decent 2nd ruck actually showing ruck craft taping to our mids.

Edited April 20Apr 20 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

6 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

He'll get a month if he does what he did yesterday.

He will get better, won't be as nervous as yesterday and grow into his performances.

Got to consider the human element of his 1st run for the year.

How good was Max with him in the side yesterday? Getting proper rest periods in, and a decent 2nd ruck actually showing ruck craft taping to our mids.

That was absolutely Max's best game for ages, which is saying something.

I thought Fullarton was good, did his job. Not everyone in the team is going to be Kozzy, you need role players and he certainly played his. Wish him all the best going forward.

1 minute ago, D Rev said:

That was absolutely Max's best game for ages, which is saying something.

I thought Fullarton was good, did his job. Not everyone in the team is going to be Kozzy, you need role players and he certainly played his. Wish him all the best going forward.

If everyone in the team was Kozzie we wouldn't lose a game for 8 years.

3 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

He'll get a month if he does what he did yesterday.

Especially if we want to persevere with a proper 2nd ruck ... Tom stays in the side

And it wasn't so much Tom's contribution yesterday, it was more about being able to manage Max in terms of Max being at his max when we needed him most

Previously, this season, there's have been comments that Gawn was looking a bit tired and listless. Yesterday, he dominated and looked fresh throughout

But Tom held his ground when rucking and when up forward. And you'd reckon he'll get better at it too

I thought Tom Fullarton played his role.

Hopefully, he can begin impacting the score board with a few goals.

But I think he definitely helps in the ruck giving a nice chop out for Max Gawn.

21 hours ago, picket fence said:

Um no not better than jeffo, who um kicked 2 in his first game!!! How many did Fullo kick again??? But agree, played a role!

How many did Jefferson kick in the reserves yesterday? Has he ever kick 5 in a game? Obviously the FD did not think much of Jefferson . Back from injury only 2 games out and back into the reserves.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

How many did Jefferson kick in the reserves yesterday? Has he ever kick 5 in a game? Obviously the FD did not think much of Jefferson . Back from injury only 2 games out and back into the reserves.

Please do u homework old dee....a bag of 5 and two bags of 4 in 2024. I maintain a BETTER player than Fullo, but on yesterdays performance needs to do more. HAS the tools but was poor yesterday but NOT helped by throwing him behind the ball to defence at stages yesterday. As iterated not great for his confidence IMO

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18 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Please do u homework old dee....a bag of 5 and two bags of 4 in 2024. I maintain a BETTER player than Fullo, but on yesterdays performance needs to do more. HAS the tools but was poor yesterday but NOT helped by throwing him behind the ball to defence at stages yesterday. As iterated not great for his confidence IMO

Jefferson should plead for a go in the ruck plus a chance to play up the ground. If Petty becomes a full time forward Jefferson will always be behind JVR and/or Fullarton.

21 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Please do u homework old dee....a bag of 5 and two bags of 4 in 2024. I maintain a BETTER player than Fullo, but on yesterdays performance needs to do more. HAS the tools but was poor yesterday but NOT helped by throwing him behind the ball to defence at stages yesterday. As iterated not great for his confidence IMO

I don't think he is better than Fullarton. Imo Fullarton can play 2nd ruck as he did yesterday. Jefferson forward only. I think the guy with the most potential is Kentland. With little PS he is behind the rest. I look forward to how is playing in July.

Just now, old dee said:

I don't think he is better than Fullarton. Imo Fullarton can play 2nd ruck as he did yesterday. Jefferson forward only. I think the guy with the most potential is Kentland. With little PS he is behind the rest. I look forward to how is playing in July. We still need a good KPF. It is not Jefferson, JVR or Fullarton. IMO they are all NQR.

14 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

I thought he showed us a bit today. He wasn't amazing by any means, but he had a hard role, basically warming the bench for Max with some time spent forward here and there. He got in good positions, took a couple of good marks and had some absolutely terrible kicks flying at him when he was deep forward that killed any chance of him actually scoring. One absolute shank that should have been a goal. He wasn't outstanding, but he played his role, broke even with some really good defenders and held up in the ruck. I think he did enough to earn another week.

Well said, mate. Listening to Gawn post match on 3AW, it sounded a lot like he was happy with Fullarton’s debut and appreciated the assistance he got in the ruck.

Nobody rated that dumb American and said dumb American nearly got the Pies into a GF off his own boot.

Not saying Fullarton will become a world beater, but if he gets a decent go at it and can become half as good as someone like Darcy Cameron, who I think gets underrated year in, year out, then we would be pretty happy I’d reckon.

If he does come into his own and becomes a solid contributor, it could release a lot of pressure on JVR.

Edited April 20Apr 20 by VNightCityLegend

If you haven't watched Jeff farmer's jumper presentation speech I highly recommend it. Absolute legend and his love for the club shines through. It's a pity his kid wasn't quite at the level.

On 20/04/2025 at 01:04, Demons1858 said:

l think some are making the mistake of seeing Fullarton as JVRs replacement.

So JVRs role is as the big forward and the lesser role as the back up. Petty is the replacement for the former while Fullarton is the replacement for the later. He is also the Fritch replacement.

Our main targets going forward todsy were Petty, Melksham and Kozzie.

I see what you mean but JVR is undersized to be a big forwad in the modern game.

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On 19/04/2025 at 13:12, bush demon said:

Apologies if this has already been posted. PS What a GREAT speech by Jeff Farmer.

https://youtu.be/Pzx0lH-d-8Y?si=6hofNXOqpFpG62kH

can someone out this up in a form that can be easily accessed, I would love to watch it but it does not come up on my phone

Many thanks

16 hours ago, old dee said:

  16 hours ago, old dee said:

I don't think he is better than Fullarton. Imo Fullarton can play 2nd ruck as he did yesterday.

You must be kidding. Fullerton did very little and was beaten at 2 ruck contests by Oscar McD.

He gets another chance but really showed nothing.

1 hour ago, Cranky Franky said:

You must be kidding. Fullerton did very little and was beaten at 2 ruck contests by Oscar McD.

He gets another chance but really showed nothing.

Why when we have almost no KPF's was Jefferson not bought in from injury? He was played at Casey for little return greatly over rated. Our future is somewhere else its not the current three.

1 hour ago, 640MD said:

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can someone out this up in a form that can be easily accessed, I would love to watch it but it does not come up on my phone

Many thanks

1 hour ago, Cranky Franky said:

You must be kidding. Fullerton did very little and was beaten at 2 ruck contests by Oscar McD.

He gets another chance but really showed nothing.

He may get another chance CF, but if the idea is that two "pure rucks" helps Max excel then Campbell is a better option in my opinion, once he is fit again. Interesting that Campbell was rested from Casey on Saturday - hope his hamstring has recovered fully.

Don’t get too excited about Fullarton as second ruck…he was only up against Oscar McDonald.

Tom was no world beater but I thought he played his role well and gave Max a chop out and set up that goal for Chandler, you can only beat who you are playing on. He deserves a second game and who knows.

An Excellent presentation, still has a huge fondness for the DEMONs your opportunity now Go For It

I still think Tom is a ways off being a week in week out competent second ruck. I thought he worked hard in this game and did position himself nicely at times, it was an adequate performance and for this he should get another week for sure.

We need to see a bit more but I'm willing to give him that chance.