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Are the Dees Still a Destination Club?

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  On 07/10/2024 at 06:55, BDA said:

Jay Clark is getting tiresome. He can get in the bin

Yes he can. Pies nuffy. 

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    [censored] no we aren't

    Final Destination maybe

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    For a brief, shining moment, we were, post-2021.

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    That's our way.... shoot messengers. 

    It's a valid question.

    For mine...  Can't possibly see how we are.

    Best we do....whilst in "review".... putting out spot fires 🔥...   putting our WILD 🔥 🔥 🔥  ..  is hope for the best.

    Seriously  people....take the red and blue glasses off and smell the flowers....  they're dead !!

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    If you asked me this time last year I would of said yes.

    At the moment, we are seen as "unsettled" as a Club.

    Hopefully, once both the external reviews are completed we will have a better idea of where the Melbourne Football Club stands.

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      On 07/10/2024 at 09:06, Supreme_Demon said:

    If you asked me this time last year I would of said yes.

    At the moment, we are seen as "unsettled" as a Club.

    Hopefully, once both the external reviews are completed we will have a better idea of where the Melbourne Football Club stands.

    But .... by time over and the "review"...reviewed...   trade period over.

    Perception is a big thing.

    We're about as attractive as a Covid ward atm imo

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      On 07/10/2024 at 09:11, beelzebub said:

    But .... by time over and the "review"...reviewed...   trade period over.

    Perception is a big thing.

    We're about as attractive as a Covid ward atm imo

    Sadly, correct.

    2024 is a total write off.

    Dan Houston ghosted us like a Tinder date.

    Although we did get Tom "Dinosaur" Campbell as a back up ruckman and we may get Wade  "Diggler" Derksen from GWS?

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      On 07/10/2024 at 09:11, beelzebub said:

    But .... by time over and the "review"...reviewed...   trade period over.

    Perception is a big thing.

    We're about as attractive as a Covid ward atm imo

    100% perception and only perception.

    We have a list that when healthy = deep finals

    ****ty perception now as media pile on continues and will continue. We have the media offside. Get them back and we become desirable again. It's all in how it's spun. The salary cap is the salary cap, 3rd party deals still happen, the dangling of finals. Really not much between desirability and reality... if North Melbourne are able to attract interest.... they have nothing that is of interest to anyone, yet room in salary cap = paying overs

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    Let's face it, in the AFL world, you've got to deal with problems quickly. It's like putting out a small fire before it turns into a bushfire. Most issues aren't black and white, but try telling that to the AFL media - they're not big on subtlety.

    This is where Melbourne keeps getting it wrong. The club had plenty of chances to get on top of issues early, but time and again, they've let things spiral out of control. It's like they're allergic to nipping problems in the bud.

    When stuff hits the fan, Melbourne seems to freeze up. They don't tackle problems head-on, and when they do speak up, it's often too little, too late. Meanwhile, some media outlets are having a field day, churning out endless clickbait.

    Every time Melbourne drops the ball like this, they're basically handing the media a golden ticket to blow things out of proportion. Before you know it, a small hiccup turns into back-page news, and the club's scrambling to put out fires everywhere.

    All of these media issues would be making life really hard for our list management team to entice players to join the club. 

    Players have choices, and who wants to join a club that's always in the headlines for the wrong reasons? 

     

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    Let’s face it we lost Houston when our pick 14-16 dropped to pick 5, we weren’t giving that up for Dan and we had nothing else but a F1st. Who would trade 5??

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      On 07/10/2024 at 09:27, Swooper Northey said:

    Let's face it, in the AFL world, you've got to deal with problems quickly. It's like putting out a small fire before it turns into a bushfire. Most issues aren't black and white, but try telling that to the AFL media - they're not big on subtlety.

    This is where Melbourne keeps getting it wrong. The club had plenty of chances to get on top of issues early, but time and again, they've let things spiral out of control. It's like they're allergic to nipping problems in the bud.

    When stuff hits the fan, Melbourne seems to freeze up. They don't tackle problems head-on, and when they do speak up, it's often too little, too late. Meanwhile, some media outlets are having a field day, churning out endless clickbait.

    Every time Melbourne drops the ball like this, they're basically handing the media a golden ticket to blow things out of proportion. Before you know it, a small hiccup turns into back-page news, and the club's scrambling to put out fires everywhere.

    All of these media issues would be making life really hard for our list management team to entice players to join the club. 

    Players have choices, and who wants to join a club that's always in the headlines for the wrong reasons? 

     

    Swooper, agree with most of what you said here, but even since both us and Geelong have shut the Oliver trade stuff down, they continue to bang on and on about it. Seems they have an agenda and they are sticking to it.

    Nothing out club says now is going to be taken as truth. Unfortunately.

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      On 07/10/2024 at 09:30, DeeZone said:

    Let’s face it we lost Houston when our pick 14-16 dropped to pick 5, we weren’t giving that up for Dan and we had nothing else but a F1st. Who would trade 5??

    That’s not the case. We were prepared to make the trade. It didn’t have to be our 1st rounder, we were prepared to trade out players to get additional draft capital if required.

    We were still confident he was coming to us in the midst of our end of season slump.

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    In addition to that, remember when Richardson said the last thing we wanted to do was get younger? We were primed to add a 2x AA to what we thought was a list on the verge of a Premiership.

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      On 07/10/2024 at 09:43, Deestinga2 said:

    Swooper, agree with most of what you said here, but even since both us and Geelong have shut the Oliver trade stuff down, they continue to bang on and on about it. Seems they have an agenda and they are sticking to it.

    Nothing out club says now is going to be taken as truth. Unfortunately.

    And that's part of my point. The AFL media environment is littered with people who are desperate for the next sensational headline. Unfortunately we've dished that up consistently in recent years, so they're simply looking for more, even if it's illogical. For the club, dealing with the media can no longer just be an afterthought. We have to get serious about it including understanding what can happen when we get it badly wrong. Right now our inability to manage the message is destabilising the club and harming our future prospects.

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      On 07/10/2024 at 09:54, JJJ said:

    In addition to that, remember when Richardson said the last thing we wanted to do was get younger? We were primed to add a 2x AA to what we thought was a list on the verge of a Premiership.

    Do you think we've changed our focus to the draft now?

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      On 07/10/2024 at 09:54, JJJ said:

    In addition to that, remember when Richardson said the last thing we wanted to do was get younger? We were primed to add a 2x AA to what we thought was a list on the verge of a Premiership.

    Thanks @JJJ - do you have any sense of whether the club still thinks this is a list on the verge of a premiership? 

    I’d be very curious to know how the FD views our list internally after the past couple of months 

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    We have cash to spend. We can still get Talent in, but we have to play it smart, maybe the last 2-3 days….

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      On 07/10/2024 at 09:59, dazzledavey36 said:

    Do you think we've changed our focus to the draft now?

    We want to take 3 picks inside the top 30 to the draft is what I was told. Which makes the Freo 1st round pick rumour more interesting. 

      On 07/10/2024 at 10:03, demoncat said:

    Thanks @JJJ - do you have any sense of whether the club still thinks this is a list on the verge of a premiership? 

    I’d be very curious to know how the FD views our list internally after the past couple of months 

    I am not sure TBH but I know senior leaders from the playing group think we will bounce back hard. It would be difficult to think that after the last month or so, we’d be confident that Trac will be 100% and that Oliver is back to his normal levels. Which we need to be Premiers.

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    Don't wanna burst any-ones bubble but we've never been a destination club.
    Maybe in the 50's when they all wanted to play on the MCG.
    The club and media made rumblings about being a destination club after the flag but who did we land?

    Name me a big name recruit since .... Peter Moore and Templeton.
    If we have their name escapes me.

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      On 07/10/2024 at 10:44, Fork 'em said:

    Name me a big name recruit since .... Peter Moore and Templeton.
    If we have their name escapes me.

    Brodie Grundy?

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      On 07/10/2024 at 10:33, JJJ said:

    We want to take 3 picks inside the top 30 to the draft is what I was told. Which makes the Freo 1st round pick rumour more interesting. 

    I am not sure TBH but I know senior leaders from the playing group think we will bounce back hard. It would be difficult to think that after the last month or so, we’d be confident that Trac will be 100% and that Oliver is back to his normal levels. Which we need to be Premiers.

    Yeah interesting. 

    I'm intrigued to see what happens to our NGA prospects in Riak Andrew and Ricky Mentha then.

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