1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

I just don't whinge incessantly without backing it up. SWYL usual input to any topic  is 1 or two lines of whiny negativity.

It's tiresome.

Was I happy with how the year went, definitely not.

Did I discuss it face to face with some in the Club at the B&F last night, sure did, never one to hide behind a nickname on a forum.

Do I want to see improvement this year, hopefully yes.

Do I believe the [censored] pushed by journalists and pundits, definitely not.

Do I think some of the young kids at the club are going to lead the way, after speaking to some last night, definitely.

 

 

Good to see you back Saty!

46 minutes ago, DubDee said:

The majority of your posts are complaining about what posters post on here

Contributing very little

Whinging quite a lot

Can you not see the irony?

Wrong, I ask them to back up their opinion, which they are entitled to, but most don't as they find it easier to incessantly whine, demanding others follow their opinion, because that is the only one that is right.

If other posters disagree they are told they are delusional, looking through rose coloured glasses etc.

Forums are for discussion, except for Demonland of course, home of the disgruntled supporter who craves agreement to their opinion

Opinion which is usually based on what some highly paid click baiter has written, and we must agree mustn't we, don't want to be seen as a nuffy.

 

1 hour ago, He de mon said:

That was the bit that made me think maybe the all the talk about is terrible culture is BS,  as Ben Brown doesn't strike me as the sort of guy would want to stay if he thought our culture sucked.

Without jumping to any other conclusions, Ben stated that he was particularly attracted to the strong culture of our AFLW team. I can testify to that, and it no doubt that stems from the continuity provided by Mick Stinear (who Ben praised) and the list management of Todd Paterson - both having been in their roles from the foundation of our women's team.

10 minutes ago, Hawk the Demon said:

Without jumping to any other conclusions, Ben stated that he was particularly attracted to the strong culture of our AFLW team. I can testify to that, and it no doubt that stems from the continuity provided by Mick Stinear (who Ben praised) and the list management of Todd Paterson - both having been in their roles from the foundation of our women's team.

And there it is.

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Wrong, I ask them to back up their opinion, which they are entitled to, but most don't as they find it easier to incessantly whine, demanding others follow their opinion, because that is the only one that is right.

If other posters disagree they are told they are delusional, looking through rose coloured glasses etc.

Forums are for discussion, except for Demonland of course, home of the disgruntled supporter who craves agreement to their opinion

Opinion which is usually based on what some highly paid click baiter has written, and we must agree mustn't we, don't want to be seen as a nuffy.

 

Eloquently put & also accurate 

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Wrong, I ask them to back up their opinion, which they are entitled to, but most don't as they find it easier to incessantly whine, demanding others follow their opinion, because that is the only one that is right.

If other posters disagree they are told they are delusional, looking through rose coloured glasses etc.

Forums are for discussion, except for Demonland of course, home of the disgruntled supporter who craves agreement to their opinion

Opinion which is usually based on what some highly paid click baiter has written, and we must agree mustn't we, don't want to be seen as a nuffy.

 

I respect your opinions and stoic defence of the club but what puzzles me you mostly only appear here when there is turbulence at the club like the old dark days and the now. I don’t recall you posting here at all during our premiership year and very rarely up until this disastrous season started falling apart. Why is it that you went missing in our greatest season for 6 decades? 

Edited October 5, 2024Oct 5 by John Crow Batty

11 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Not at all, I thought that he was realistic, realises that there is a lot of work to do to get back in contention and urged the players to love the process required to put themselves into a position to contend. Overstated process a bit for mine, Gus described the grind and hard work required as enjoyable a little more eloquently than Goody but Gus is a brilliant wordsmith.❤️💙😁

I can see how people could interpret the content of his speech in a few different ways, and tbh, the content was the least of my concerns. 
If ever there was a time to not have a number of crownies before making the most important speech in his time at the Club, it was then.  Might seem old fashioned, but I also believe it was the time to shave, to not go with the trendy 3 day growth. 
I’d be rather confident that Sam Mitchell, McRae & Fagan won’t be slurring their words during their speeches.  
Was the absolute occasion where he had to take the totally conservative & professional leader type approach, and unfortunately he didn’t. 

9 hours ago, sue said:

Yes it is a fact that we finised 14th and we must accept that, but the point I was making that focussing negatively on the number 14 may not be reflective of the actual situation.  Feel free to feel as miserable as you like about things. Each to their own. 

Your wasting your breath there sue, I’d not bother

10 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

I can see how people could interpret the content of his speech in a few different ways, and tbh, the content was the least of my concerns. 
If ever there was a time to not have a number of crownies before making the most important speech in his time at the Club, it was then.  Might seem old fashioned, but I also believe it was the time to shave, to not go with the trendy 3 day growth. 
I’d be rather confident that Sam Mitchell, McRae & Fagan won’t be slurring their words during their speeches.  
Was the absolute occasion where he had to take the totally conservative & professional leader type approach, and unfortunately he didn’t. 

Agree wholeheartedly and made the exact same comment last night when I was tuning in live.

His was slurring his speech. Some said it was nerves but it wasn't. I've seen him nervous at a press conference and it was nothing like last night.

His introduction of Max Gawn as runner up was just plain weird and bizarre. Some odd pauses and not even a mention of a well deserved recognition for a 7th All Australian jumper.

19 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

I can see how people could interpret the content of his speech in a few different ways, and tbh, the content was the least of my concerns. 
If ever there was a time to not have a number of crownies before making the most important speech in his time at the Club, it was then.  Might seem old fashioned, but I also believe it was the time to shave, to not go with the trendy 3 day growth. 
I’d be rather confident that Sam Mitchell, McRae & Fagan won’t be slurring their words during their speeches.  
Was the absolute occasion where he had to take the totally conservative & professional leader type approach, and unfortunately he didn’t. 

Yep, either clueless, or very stressed/nervous/anxious and needed a coping mechanism. The players seem to love Goody. Just hope it’s for the right reasons. 

6 minutes ago, homsar said:

Yep, either clueless, or very stressed/nervous/anxious and needed a coping mechanism. The players seem to love Goody. Just hope it’s for the right reasons. 

I can tell you, that very question of, “why do the players love Goody so much” is definitely included in the review. 

52 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

I respect your opinions and stoic defence of the club but what puzzles me you mostly only appear here when there is turbulence at the club like the old dark days and the now. I don’t recall you posting here at all during our premiership year and very rarely up until this disastrous season started falling apart. Why is it that you went missing in our greatest season for 6 decades? 

Succinctly, I got  bored s******s with the constant negativity and the same bullying minority who demanded everybody agree with them

Unfortunately they still rule the forum to an extent, but I was asked by a few supporters and posters in person, as I don't feel the need to hide, to post again.

I started on this topic as I knew the bullies would be out in force sniping at anything they could about the B&F.

The disgusting comments about Goody supposedly slurring words, didn't seem that way live or the good conversation I had with him.

I think a lot of the negativity these days comes from the team on match days spoiling a 'supporter's multi.

 

The last two pages of this thread have [censored] me off for a number of reasons. I agree that it's pathetic to hang [censored] on the club at every opportunity but it's also pathetic to get on your high horse and tell someone that they're not a supporter when they critique the club's performances. We've seen the worst of these two extremes in this thread alone. 

Fwiw, the vast majority of my posts are positive but this is a football forum ffs.

12 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Agree. 

407 is the lowest winner’s vote count, excluding the shorter 2020 season, since 2016 when, funnily enough, Viney won with 407.

We played finals the previous three seasons but the winner each year polled 600+ (in 2022 Clarry won with 608 and just one extra game played, given the additional H&A game this year).

Amazing to think that Clarry scored 608 votes while competing against the likes of Tracc.

7 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Succinctly, I got  bored s******s with the constant negativity and the same bullying minority who demanded everybody agree with them

Unfortunately they still rule the forum to an extent, but I was asked by a few supporters and posters in person, as I don't feel the need to hide, to post again.

I started on this topic as I knew the bullies would be out in force sniping at anything they could about the B&F.

The disgusting comments about Goody supposedly slurring words, didn't seem that way live or the good conversation I had with him.

I think a lot of the negativity these days comes from the team on match days spoiling a 'supporter's multi.

 

I appreciate your input into this forum. Don’t know what speech you watched.

7 hours ago, goodwindees said:

I can tell you, that very question of, “why do the players love Goody so much” is definitely included in the review. 

I know of a premiership coach (within the last decade) who shared privately (not to me, admittedly) that he was astonished Goody had kept his job, something along the lines of ‘he’s just too close to his players’… whilst he didn’t elaborate, the feeling was he was saying ‘fun guy’ who doesn’t know the line between coach/boss and friend.

Separately, I have heard from a player (directly) that goody is only the ‘much-loved coach’ to select players. If you’re a fringe player, you’re probably not one of goody’s ‘favs’ and you also then end up on the outer socially with him.

19 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I am not being miserable.

 

Did I hear right. Did McCrae say at the fllth b&f that he is glad his supporters don't boo. Is he deaf?

12 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Did I hear right. Did McCrae say at the fllth b&f that he is glad his supporters don't boo. Is he deaf?

I believe he said “we don’t boo at Collingwood” when the crowd started booing in response to another club being mentioned 

The irony 

20 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Did I hear right. Did McCrae say at the fllth b&f that he is glad his supporters don't boo. Is he deaf?

The much publicised booing of Horne-Francis originated from an early season 2023 game between Collingwood and Port at the MCG.

A couple of random Collingwood supporters at the Filth goal end booed him for absolutely no reason and it took off from there. I was at the game and remember asking myself why the heck were they booing a player that had absolutely nothing to with the Pies, but all to do with his departure from North.

That’s a BS claim from McRae.

 

7 minutes ago, demoncat said:

I believe he said “we don’t boo at Collingwood” when the crowd started booing in response to another club being mentioned 

The irony 

I don’t see the irony. The man is trying to change the culture of a fanbase. That’s admirable. Don’t think he’ll be successful though, that fan base has been full of bad eggs forever. 

4 minutes ago, homsar said:

I don’t see the irony. The man is trying to change the culture of a fanbase. That’s admirable. Don’t think he’ll be successful though, that fan base has been full of bad eggs forever. 

Agree.
Reckon he finds the disrespectful behaviour of their supporter base distasteful.
Which it is.
But he won't change it.

3 hours ago, homsar said:

I appreciate your input into this forum. Don’t know what speech you watched.

I’m starting to wonder which one I watched.????

25 minutes ago, demoncat said:

I believe he said “we don’t boo at Collingwood” when the crowd started booing in response to another club being mentioned 

The irony 

I felt the same when I watched it too but on reflection I think it was more a comment intended to educate/curb their future actions than it was a misguided belief of how they actually act. 

5 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

I’m starting to wonder which one I watched.????

Come to think of it I guess it all comes down to whether you are pro Simon Goodwin or anti Simon Goodwin, it’s very easy to find fault when you dislike someone, even the old gossip snippets you only hear the damaging ones trotted out to support your stance.