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31 minutes ago, Tracca said:

Sorry how do you know trac is leaking info? and what info is he leaking?

I’m deducing based on the information in the public realm.

He wants to be traded. That’s not in any doubt at this stage.

He wants to play for a big Victorian club. That’s not coming from the MFC. It’s disparaging to the club so makes no sense for the club to say this. We know Trac wants to build his brand so this would only come from him

The club do not want to trade. It makes no sense for them to leak what’s been leaked. The problems with the top office, the way the Clarry situation was handled. It all reflects badly on the club. It only makes sense if it’s coming from Trac’s side.

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8 hours ago, Where Demons Dare said:

I loved how McClure said "in his opinion" to kick off his segment on 'Footy Classified' tonight basically meaning it's all hypothetical. Of the five bullet points he made in his segment, I honestly couldn't buy any of it. It all sounded too wishy washy for me. It's clear to me that McClure is getting this information second hand when he couldn't answer any proper direct questions from the panel for instance when 'Cornes' asked about Goodwin and Petraccas relationship... he back peddled quickly and said he couldn't comment on it saying "he's not comfortable speaking to the heart of 1 on 1 relationships" because he knew he had nothing. 

What I found interesting was Lloyd's comments having spoken to some players and they believed his services are best suited elsewhere. But what I get from that is that the players feel he needs to drop his enormous ego and start toeing the line if he wants to get some respect back from the playing group back. Unfortunately I feel now he'll never be Captain of our club which seemed almost destined for him in the next year or two. Oh how far you've fallen Christian... 

Did you also notice at the end of the segment 'Hutchy' thanked Sam and Tom for breaking the news. Morris strikes again... McClure is only telling what Morris had passed on. That's why he couldn't answer any direct line of questioning.

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3 minutes ago, Tracca said:

you still havent answered the question. is it hearsay or fact? and what exactly was leaked?

 

as the same tripe that McLure and Morris have said, was said 3 years ago. nothing has changed.

The reason leaked by Tracs team is that he wants out for a number of reasons- mainly to play for bigger club and builds his brand.

But this is well past just Morris and McLure. 
The age have said the verified it with 3 sources. Lloyd said he has spoken to current players about it.

We have numerous posters with runs on the board saying they have heard it from good sources.  

This is a bit of smoke anymore it’s a proper fire. 
If you want to bury your head in the sand go for it. Gary Lyon said a few weeks ago that until he heard it from Christians mouth he wouldn’t believe it, your entitled to take the same position. 

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7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

i know everyone is leaning into the ben simmons comparisons, but to be honest this reminds me more of alex rodriguez, the baseball superstar who left the seattle mariners - the club that picked him at the top en of the draft, developed him into a superstar, only to see him walk out to the texas rangers as a free agent to become the highest paid player in the game, before forcing a trade for the bright lights of the new york yankees

 

I like it @whatwhat say what! Minus the steroids stuff. 

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3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wonder if Adam Cerra will come back into trade calculations. 

Can already hear his hammy pinging.

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A caller on SEN (I know, I know) said he had advised the club he wants to be traded to Blues, Pies or Lions. If this was true and I'm the club, I am speaking with some of the Lions young Vic boys and seeing if they want to come home on a larger salary and longer contract. I'm thinking Rayner and Bailey more specifically.

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4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wonder if Adam Cerra will come back into trade calculations. 

Please...........

Athough its the kind of deal Melbourne would do.

Petracca for Cerra and we'd throw in Pick 5 and future first.

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1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Seriously, are you 13?

I’m not sure why you find it so outlandish that young players are googling themselves and coming across this site. Maybe the internet wasn’t around when you were in your early 20s?

Everyone at the club knows about this site considering Demonland is a long term player sponsor and has had multiple players and FD members join the podcast. 
Hell, we have had family members of players openly post on here, and I’m sure there are dozens more who post anonymously.

WCW is not suggesting Max is reading George Demonland threads at bedtime, but I am sure plenty of young players go online to see what is being said about them, be it here or Bigfooty or social media. 

I am sure the club is telling them to keep away, but curiosity is part of human nature. 

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If Christian wishes to [censored] everyone off, players and supporters alike to ensure a move, wants to play for a big boys club that lacks overall integrity, then the CFMEU are on the lookout for a new mafia boss.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, binman said:

 

Why hasn't he backgrounded another journo to at least tamp down the noise 'till after the GF?

If I was conners I'd be concerned the idea of tracc as an entitled, prima donna taking hold - 

I just wonder if Tracca and Conners are on the same page with all this coming out.

only from 1 or 2 “journos”

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Posted
6 hours ago, bluey said:

You reach the stage where you have overplayed your hand.

Jason Ackermannis style.

the suitors become concerned that your a liability.

A club with good values doesn’t wish to import high maintenance trouble.

The name did flash through my head about 10 mins ago to be honest. 

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wonder if Adam Cerra will come back into trade calculations. 

I think he is one Carlton would definitely throw up.

It would also take Carltons 1st this year and future 1st.... plus we may advise Carlton this year's first needs to be in the top 6-8 so they may have to work a way to do that.

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It seems to me people at the club are also feeding the media. eg

  • That it was uncomfortable having Petracca at the club function last Sat night.
  • Players are angry at Petracca and want him out ...
  • Petracca asked to be traded at the exit interview.  I assume the only the attendees were Petracca, Goodwin and maybe Richardson. 

That to me doesn't look like a club that wants to mend a relationship. 

Both parties are trying to discredit each other.  Both parties are damaging the club.  Its getting ugly and will become a very messy divorce.

The sooner they both stop feeding the media the better.

imv its time to bring in a neutral mediator and get the differences on the table and talk them out.  I don't have confidence that anyone at the club knows how to do such mediating. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, deegirl said:

Looking at the average AFL career he’s lucky he is to have won ONE premiership. 
 

Nathan Jones is one example, he gave everything to the club and played the 2018 finals series but missed the premiership that he helped build.
 

It’s very disappointing that the reported reasons for Trac wanting to leave are mostly selfish.  I had thought better of him. It’s not good to see that all the talk about loving the club only lasted as long as everything was going his way. 

I empathise with his frustration at Melbourne's lack of success since winning the flag.

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8 minutes ago, Colm said:

The reason leaked by Tracs team is that he wants out for a number of reasons- mainly to play for bigger club and builds his brand.

But this is well past just Morris and McLure. 
The age have said the verified it with 3 sources. Lloyd said he has spoken to current players about it.

We have numerous posters with runs on the board saying they have heard it from good sources.  

This is a bit of smoke anymore it’s a proper fire. 
If you want to bury your head in the sand go for it. Gary Lyon said a few weeks ago that until he heard it from Christians mouth he wouldn’t believe it, your entitled to take the same position. 

its not burying head in sand at all, but its more so just rumor mongering thats all. Im all for hearing from Christian first before I make the assertation. The longer it goes on the worse it is for him

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Just now, loges said:

In answer to your question. how many platers have extended their contracts this year. plenty seem happy.

From what we can see, that's right. There are likely issues at the club no doubt but the way the story is panning out, it's starting to say more about the player. 

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1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I empathise with his frustration at Melbourne's lack of success since winning the flag.

Yeah we all do, but unlike him we are here to stay 🔴🔵

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1 minute ago, Lucifers Hero said:

It seems to me the club is also feeding the media. eg

  • That it was uncomfortable having Petracca at the club function last Sat night.
  • Who leaked StK pre draft psych test?  Unethical for the Saints to do it.  Petracca wouldn't have access.  Who at the Dees was at the Saints at the time and has the test details? 
  • Players are angry at Petracca and want him out ...
  • Petracca asked to be traded at the exit interview.  I assume the only the attendees were Petracca, Goodwin and maybe Richardson. 

That to me doesn't look like a club that wants to mend a relationship. 

Both parties are trying to discredit each other.  Both parties are damaging the club.  Its getting ugly and will become a very messy divorce.

The sooner they both stop feeding the media the better.

imv its time to bring in a neutral mediator and get the differences on the table and talk them out.  I don't have confidence that anyone at the club knows how to do such mediating. 

 

That article was written years ago and brought up by someone on X. 

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Posted

Trac to blues for Mackay plus 11

11 to port for Houston 

5 + future first for Callaghan. 
 

I would be okay with that 

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16 minutes ago, binman said:

Maybe. Maybe not.

The result is the same.

On conners, if he is not responsible for the strategic backgrounding of morris why has he let this play out like it has?

Why hasn't he backgrounded another journo to at least tamp down the noise 'till after the GF?

I mean, he's tracc's manager after all. And if demonland is any guide, tracc's stocks are falling in terms of his reputation.

That's to say, whilst the initial reporting was favourable towards him (ultra pro unhappy with the 'direction' of a club the media loves to hammer), it's swinging the other way - for example the suggestion his teammates are jack of him.

If I was conners I'd be concerned the idea of tracc as an entitled, prima donna taking hold - Australians are allergic to that idea of stars elevating themselves above their team.

And leaving aside the response by fans, if that perception takes hold amongst players at say the pies or blues how keen will they be about a diva coming to their club (probably instantly the highest paid), with all the attendant palaver.

And how will the big stars at either club feel about having to share the spotlight with tracc? 

On my last point, some blues players might already be annoyed with tracc.

Case in point, Harry McKay.

Bloke has just signed on 'till 2030 and is about to play an elimination final.

And out of the blue, the talk (solely based on speculation by mclure) is he is trade bait and his manager has to come out and shut down talk of his club trading him.

Not a great way to build enduring bonds with prospective teammates.

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Just now, binman said:

On my last point, some blues players might already be annoyed with tracc.

Case in point, Harry McKay.

Bloke has just signed on 'till 2030 and is about to play an elimination final.

And out of the blue, the talk (solely based on speculation by mclure) is trade bait and his manager has to come out and shut down talk of his club trading him.

Not a great way to build enduring bonds with prospective teammates.

i spose he wouldnt be playing with Harry McKay if they were both traded :)

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