POSTGAME: Rd 20 vs GWS

[Adam The God 30,411]

I just want to say, how good is Windsor? Just about everything he does is gold, rarely makes mistakes and often beats 2 or 3 players 1 out.

Absolute star.

As is McVee. Who was not embarrassed tonight against TG.

[bing181 9,328]

2 minutes ago, Heart Beats True said:

Yes we are missing players as we all know however it doesn’t excuse the lack of effort at crucial stages and our uncanny ability to be mentally weak in the clinches.

4 goals at the end of the last quarter against a top 4 side desperate to win was herculean.

[dees189227 12,398]

What the hell happened to melksham after half time. He did a disappearing act

[Dingo 1,126]

23 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said:

GWS are a pretty decent footy team.  They lost a prelim by a point last year.  We are pretty much as good as them.  Gawn played a week earlier than he should have, but imagine if he hadn't played?  What might Briggs have done then? Oliver played a really good first half and was probably our best player tonight.  His second half was disappointing and he let himself down with the square work in the last, but there were positives in his performance. It's disappointing to lose but that's footy.  No team wins every week, and we've lost three close ones this year, but also won a couple as well - North, Geelong were both tight and went our way. I'll leave it to all the analysts to break down every stat and every play and extract recriminations, but I enjoy the fact that we have won a flag, been a really competitive footy team for a number of years now and that we are still a chance to play finals this year.  

Thanks - well said.

[Swooper1987 3,322]

2 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I'm not sure max was right to go tonight. 

He came back a week earlier than was initially projected.  My counter view is what if he hadn't played? He wasn't right, back a week early but still had 12 contested possessions, kicked a goal, handed Nibbler the one at the end and competed manfully.  And probably didn't do any further damage. Briggs is a good player, but statistically, other than hit outs, Max did as much as him.

[binman 43,762]

3 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I'm not sure max was right to go tonight. 

No, he was a shadow of himself.

Couldn't get off the ground, struggled to cover the ground and got our muscled.

But tried his guts out

Huge effort to play. 

[Moonshadow 17,677]

2 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I'm not sure max was right to go tonight. 

Yeah, I thought the same. But he prob felt like he had to play, given how our 'rucks' got smashed in his absence. We desperately need to address our ruck stocks over the off season

[Demonsone 2,043]

34 minutes ago, Redleg said:

On a positive note, with so many things going against us this year, we have lost to 3 finalists by less than a goal.

 

Yep by a total of 8 points but also thumped by 90’& 50 points to Freo and played poorly even before trac & Max we’re injured .. have blown the premiership window apart with trades that are vfl level, our clearances have been poor all year, need a review and changes in particular assistants even Goodwin as his flip flop of rucks  

Edited July 27 by Demonsone

[Heart Beats True 1,256]

2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

4 goals at the end of the last quarter against a top 4 side desperate to win was herculean.

Conversely, the 4 goals in 7 minutes at the start of the fourth to the Giants was pathetic. We should have been switched on.

[Bowserpower 166]

24 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Yes when he is fit. What does a poor last quarter tell you? He’s cooked. Petty the same. They are struggling to run out games. 

He should be fighting fit by now. 3 quarters of a season is enough time.

[Earl Hood 6,101]

9 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@binman to discuss this week.  I’m sure the coaches are working on WHY WE ARE GETTING KILLED IN CLEARANCES. Ps. It’s not because Gawn was missing.  Poor setup. Midfield coach  might need to be sacked.  

I was at the game and caught up in the moment so I need to review the replay tomorrow when I clear my head. But I was screaming in the last few last quarter centre bounces. We had no one goal side for the bounce. So Max is running toward our goals and Briggs as usual coming from the side early to take up space, and twice the hit by Max goes towards our goal and straight to a Giant on his own, who then gets a clear kick forward. WTF is going on? 

[Bowserpower 166]

Anyone else think Petty's last shot at goal was pathetic?

[Wrecker46 3,016]

39 minutes ago, binman said:

I have not been as furious with the umpiring in I honestly don't know how long. 

I was apoplectic

Simply appalling. I'm still seething.

The blatant inconsistency is just mind numbing.

GWS seemed to be allowed to run sideways on the mark which has been a 50m penalty all year. We didn't do it tonight so i can't say they were inconsistent tonight but i've lost count of the times we've been penalised for it throughout the year

[dazzledavey36 55,347]

1 minute ago, Earl Hood said:

I was at the game and caught up in the moment so I need to review the replay tomorrow when I clear my head. But I was screaming in the last few last quarter centre bounces. We had no one goal side for the bounce. So Max is running toward our goals and Briggs as usual coming from the side early to take up space, and twice the hit by Max goes towards our goal and straight to a Giant on his own, who then gets a clear kick forward. WTF is going on? 

Embarrassing 

[titan_uranus 25,043]

Jeepers there are some hot takes in here.

Having a crack at Oliver when he was far and away our best player for the first three quarters and played his best football in months (all year?) is ridiculous - yes, his fourth quarter was no good, but he looked spent after carrying our midfield for the first three quarters.

Having a crack at the coaches for having TMac on Hogan is easy but Hogan had kicked 1 goal for 2.5 quarters before getting on the end of their midfield going berserk for 15 minutes. TMac's problems tonight were his own fault, not the coaches.

Having a crack at Lever for dropping an intercept mark late is harsh (that he was even able to get his hands to it speaks to his ability) particularly given he had kept us afloat in the middle two quarters.

We lost this game due to our usual inability to execute fundamentals under pressure, coupled with carrying a number of unfit and either out of form or not good enough players. Some vital 50/50 umpiring decisions going against us sealed the deal.

[Skuit 10,031]

My love-hate relationship with the [censored]-bullet continues. 

[JTR 2,856]

3 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

Anyone else think Petty's last shot at goal was pathetic?

Here we go...  🙄

Can't let the ridiculous Petty pile on get off track now can we? 

[poita 3,902]

First quarter was excellent, last ten minutes pretty good, but the rest was absolute garbage. 

As soon as we coughed up two soft goals at the start of the second quarter it was inevitable that we'd lose, and GWS went on a 12 goal to 3 run after quarter time. 

Gawn clearly wasn't fit. Good on him for having a crack, but our centre bounce work was atrocious once again and he was a major reason why. 

Not having a running player as sub was horrible coaching, and should never happen again. 

Our bottom 8 to 10 players are just not good enough, and most of them will never be good enough. We need to make significant, long overdue changes to the list in the next two months. Ditto the coaching staff, from the senior coach down. 

And finally, tonight's crowd was abysmal and says everything about the character of our so-called supporter base. 

[Moonshadow 17,677]

1 minute ago, Bowserpower said:

Anyone else think Petty's last shot at goal was pathetic?

I think our kicking for goal in general is pathetic. It's been costing us for a few years, last years finals especially 

[Dee-tonator 247]

7 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I'm not sure max was right to go tonight. 

Without him we would have been slaughtered again.

Not surprisingly, he ran out of gas towards the end, but the question I would ask is why the club did not secure a back-up ruckman before letting Grundy go.

Goodwin has made it clear that he would not even consider Fullarton for the role.

[Adam The God 30,411]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Embarrassing 

Is it a personnel thing or is it McQualter? Our loose marking at stoppages has happened way too many times this year for it not to have been picked up. So are our mids simply falling asleep or are they being instructed to position themselves really aggressively (read, stupidly)?

[Dingo 1,126]

29 minutes ago, bing181 said:

I really don't understand comments like this. It was always obvious that losing Brayshaw and Petracca was going to cost us the season, add to that an unfit Oliver who can hardly even get through games yet alone have an impact. Yet people are surprised and calling for heads to roll?

It is what it is. Why can't people put on their big boy/girl pants and deal with it?

Yes and why aren’t these commentators suggesting Casey players who can step up?

Perhaps because …. there aren’t any?

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

5 minutes ago, binman said:

No, he was a shadow of himself.

Couldn't get off the ground, struggled to cover the ground and got our muscled.

But tried his guts out

Huge effort to play. 

He was a shadow, tried his guts out, lost his touch and marking ability with being out for 2 weeks.

[Mel Bourne 4,534]

2 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

He should be fighting fit by now. 3 quarters of a season is enough time.

Clearly it isn’t. 
 

Pre-seasons are for getting a player’s fitness raised as high as possible, which they work at maintaining throughout the season. If anything, the H&A season eats away at those levels. Very rare to see a player’s fitness significantly increase during them. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,297]

58 minutes ago, picket fence said:

As usual Badloss totally out of his depth..OUTCOACHED Fluked a flag and we need to look elsewhere IMV

This is such a garbage post, I'd like to think you're better than that PF but maybe you're not. Dragged himself out of hospital to be there tonight and stood in the freezing cold on the boundary before going back into hospital tomorrow morning. Has built a strong culture around the playing group who clearly love him as evidenced by most players signing long term deals. Our only living premiership coach and the man who was able to break the drought after 57 years. Whatever you think of him he is etched in Demon folklore til they stop writing about the game. I think he needs some new voices in the coaches box but he is a damn good coach. Great at strategy, maybe not so great tactically but none are perfect.

Clearly had us ready to play as we came out of the blocks red hot - reminded me of the Semi Final last year actually. How exactly was he outcoached? Giants are a flag contender, we will be lucky to make finals with our best player side lined and a raft of kids being blooded.

Edited July 27 by Dr. Gonzo