Oliver Trade Rumours

[binman 42,897]

53 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Harley Reid turned 19 and really let himself go.

That's his been crying for his mummy for hours face.

Cheer up H, to badly paraphrase Neil Diamond, you'll be a demon soon. 

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

I cant remember my 19th Birthday. It must have been great. 

[Demon Disciple 12,119]

57 minutes ago, DutchDemons said:

Sam McClure is a synonym for toilet paper.

Come now, at least toilet paper has a purpose

[Garbo 1,534]

1 hour ago, Oxdee said:

Unfortunately the fact that this rumour hasn’t been put to bed usually means that there is a strong possibility that Oliver will be traded. At no point in time has Oliver actually come out and said that he is staying. As it stands today, Oliver is out the door. 

It’s been put to bed by the president and our list boss within the last week, the only ones digging it up are the media because they have nothing better to talk about with only 3 trades in 3 days. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,441]

13 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

the resemblance to Barrett is uncanny 

Just a bump 

[layzie 33,793]

2 hours ago, DeeSince73 said:

That [censored] McClueless was still crapping on about the door still not being shut with Clarry and Geelong on 3AW tonight. I didn’t wait to listen to his show as I was feeling ill as it was. Maybe someone here heard the rest? 

Well it's not really dead until trade period is over.

[Sydee 4,413]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

I got one of those.... opened it and got a million bucks deposited into my bank account! 

Sure you’re not confusing debits and credits ? 

[daisycutter 29,613]

1 hour ago, DutchDemons said:

Sam McClure is a synonym for toilet paper.

hey, that's an insult to toilet paper!

[Travy14 1,917]

As soon as there is a quite day in the trade period they will go back to this story.  Melb have said no, and Geel even came out and said we will respect Melbourne's position.

 

[Bowserpower 141]

8 hours ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Kate Roffey laughed on Friday night when I called him Sam Manure

Think she was just being polite

[Bowserpower 141]

35 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Just a bump 

Why?

[DubDee 25,839]

The media fools are really desperate for a story now

have nothing?

Roll out the same nonsense from last week on Oliver

pathetic

[John Demonic 5,789]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Was clarry there?

 

[Bowserpower 141]

11 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

This is from someone that attended the B & F. Some want to hear this, some don’t. No biggie. The below was sent to me. 

I said “Please Clarrie, tell me you’re not leaving us.” He just smiled. I was drunk as it was but then the anger kicked in. I said, “This is messed up. Why are you doing this?!” He said, “Remember what I’ve told you before? The only way I’d leave the club is if they booted me out, otherwise I’m not going anywhere. That still stands and always will.”
 I said, “If Pert or whoever dares to offload you, I’ll burn down the MCG.”
He said, “Don’t believe everything you read.” 

No disrespect but your mate sounds like a bit of a drop kick.

Why go to these events just to harass players? It's like meeting your favourite soap opera stars and asking them for spoilers.

 

[binman 42,897]

3 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I remember my 19th Birthday clearly. I had to count how many individual grains of rice there were in a full bucket. Nothing wrong with boring. 

Go hard or go home.

[deejammin' 2,370]

Ok, so let’s entertain this nonsense for a second. Let’s say the club finds a trade for Clayton they’re happy with and do it. That means within 10 days the President, Football Manager and the List Manager will all have lied to the public and Melbourne’s members about trading Clayton (not to mention Geelong’s list manager). Members are upset when good players are traded, particularly when they’re in contract, combine that with outright lies and the relief most members felt when hearing that announcement and the fury will be like nothing we’ve seen before.

How do you spin that? How do you run a membership drive? How do you get members and supporters to ever trust you again? How do you get donations for a new home base? How do you keep your other players on the list? 
 

I think this is staying in the press through a combination of boredom and wanting to maintain pressure on a clearly very media disliked Gary Pert (check out Barrett’s article on AFL.com outright calling for Pert to go). But I also just can’t see how it happens due to the fall out for the football club, Brad Green starts his presidency with an outright lie at the B&F?!!!
We’re being called a circus and disaster and everything else now, imagine if we immediately make three senior club figures liars. Insanity.

[Hawk the Demon 988]

1 hour ago, Garbo said:

It’s been put to bed by the president and our list boss within the last week, the only ones digging it up are the media because they have nothing better to talk about with only 3 trades in 3 days. 

Didn't he say Clayton will be in the mid-field with Max, Jack and Trac at the first bounce Round 1 - we might be playing Geelong? BTW, I take it from the Pres's speech we are not playing Round Zero next year?

[Little Goffy 14,521]

3 hours ago, Superunknown said:

Mine was awesome

massive bonfire at property in Gisborne - spent a year building it

mates chucked canned food on fire and sent them whizzing to the top of the property 

 

was rad

Fire could be seen from the Calder all the way from the north and up the Mount 

 

We're from very different necks of the woods, I suspect, but nothing beats a giant bonfire.

Best bonfire I ever had was the final night of a season of outdoor nighttime opera (seriously) that finished with the entire stage - set, curtains, props, base, backstage and definitely some non-regulation bonus flammables - being sent up in flames to a massed chorus of Carmina Burana.

I think my mum got free tickets because one of the music teachers at her school was involved.

Stick that up ya 'Never tear us apart'.

 

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

6 hours ago, Bowserpower said:

No disrespect but your mate sounds like a bit of a drop kick.

Why go to these events just to harass players? It's like meeting your favourite soap opera stars and asking them for spoilers.

 

You have no idea how the event was organized on the night, and if you think supporters turned up just to harass players you're the dropkick. No offence.

[KozzyCan 764]

9 hours ago, deejammin' said:

Ok, so let’s entertain this nonsense for a second. Let’s say the club finds a trade for Clayton they’re happy with and do it. That means within 10 days the President, Football Manager and the List Manager will all have lied to the public and Melbourne’s members about trading Clayton (not to mention Geelong’s list manager). Members are upset when good players are traded, particularly when they’re in contract, combine that with outright lies and the relief most members felt when hearing that announcement and the fury will be like nothing we’ve seen before.

How do you spin that? How do you run a membership drive? How do you get members and supporters to ever trust you again? How do you get donations for a new home base? How do you keep your other players on the list? 
 

I think this is staying in the press through a combination of boredom and wanting to maintain pressure on a clearly very media disliked Gary Pert (check out Barrett’s article on AFL.com outright calling for Pert to go). But I also just can’t see how it happens due to the fall out for the football club, Brad Green starts his presidency with an outright lie at the B&F?!!!
We’re being called a circus and disaster and everything else now, imagine if we immediately make three senior club figures liars. Insanity.

Yep if after all this we trade Oliver for unders it's going to be difficult to trust anything the club says.

[Ollie fan 3,370]

12 hours ago, Oxdee said:

Nonsense, Oliver trade has had almost more media attention than trac. It’s in everyone’s best interest to quash the story and move on. A 2 minute interview saying how much he is looking forward to next season is sufficient. Concerning that they can’t even give us that 

I thought he had said pretty much that numerous times. That he loves the club and will only go elsewhere if forced to do so

[Macca 16,961]

27 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Yep if after all this we trade Oliver for unders it's going to be difficult to trust anything the club says.

Any club won't weaken it's trade position so there's a need to stick to the 'required & contracted player line' ("he's not going anywhere")

It's similar to when a president supports a coach who is on thin ice

And the only way Oliver gets traded is for unders.  His true value is a couple of decent first round picks or perhaps even more

But which club is going to offer that after he's gone off the rails and had 2 way below standard seasons?

On top of all that there's a 6 year $10Million deal in place

At best there would be club willing to take over his huge contract with nothing coming back our way

So you and quite a few others here need stop blaming the club ... the player is responsible for his own actions and this is all on Oliver

Ditto for Petracca

[KozzyCan 764]

Just now, Macca said:

Any club won't weaken it's trade position so there's a need to stick to the 'required & contracted player line' ("he's not going anywhere")

It's similar to when a president supports a coach who is on thin ice

And the only way Oliver gets traded is for unders.  His true value is a couple of decent first round picks or perhaps even more

But which club is going to offer that after he's gone off the rails and had 2 way below standard seasons?

On top of all that there's a 6 year $10Million deal in place

At best there would be club willing to take over his huge contract with nothing coming back our way

So you and quite a few others here need stop blaming the club ... the player is responsible for his own actions and this is all on Oliver

Ditto for Petracca

As soon as Pert was shopping Oliver around our trade position tanked. Geelong were reportedly shaking trees mid-season and we shut them down, we should have told them that anyone is tradable for the right price and let them come up with an offer that worked for us.

If Oliver was one misstep away from being booted then I don't get why we did that, or why we didn't see the writing on the wall last year and traded him while he still had value. We have clearly flip-flopped on whether we want him at the club and that more than anything has made our trade position weak.

I don't think the club will come out of this looking good at all.

[Macca 16,961]

13 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

As soon as Pert was shopping Oliver around our trade position tanked. Geelong were reportedly shaking trees mid-season and we shut them down, we should have told them that anyone is tradable for the right price and let them come up with an offer that worked for us.

If Oliver was one misstep away from being booted then I don't get why we did that, or why we didn't see the writing on the wall last year and traded him while he still had value. We have clearly flip-flopped on whether we want him at the club and that more than anything has made our trade position weak.

I don't think the club will come out of this looking good at all.

Oliver is 100% at fault here and he put the club into a no-win situation

It won't matter what we do or what we did, the mud will stick to the club

Oliver is toxic (or was) but there is a chance that he might knuckle down

Edited October 9 by Macca

[Macca 16,961]

@KozzyCan

The only trade that can work for us is for Oliver to become someone else's problem (unless he can knuckle down with us)

I'm putting aside his football ability here because we have to

The club is always bigger than any individual especially one who has decided to take all the money and give back SFA