Oliver Trade Rumours

[Supreme_Demon 3,714]

I don't want to lose Clayton Oliver.

In fact, I will be devastated if he leaves the Demons.

But if we are forced to trade him then we need to get 2 first round draft picks. We should not accept anything less for a champion player.

[Dee*ceiving 1,662]

Clubs courting in contract players has got hairs all over it. 

If a contracted player requests a trade the motion should be the club will seek to find a trade that meets or exceeds the players existing contract and satisfies the clubs on field objectives. 

Any other requests by a player, eg. state/team etc. should be considered 'nice to haves', nothing more.  

If a player wishes to get to a specific club, they can until they're OOC or do the work to ensure the preferred club can satisfy the club that you're contracted too and is paying you $25-$100k per month right now. 

[Fritta and Turner 4,286]

Boy is this the silly season.

After the season we had everyone is tradeable if the price is right.  I mean if Roos contemplated trading Jude Bolton, even if only for a nano second, surely we could do the same with Clarry.

Not sure why Pert is running with it though.

[mo64 5,843]

52 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Could be as simple as at a function Pert is asked is Clarry gettable and he might have said for the right price most players are.

Then that spreads to we are shopping him.

There are literally hundreds of ways a story like this can get out. 

I found out a few days before the Grand Final that Luke Parker had committed to joining the Roos. My source was a mate who's golfing buddy was a junior coach of Parker. Parker is close friends with his son. My mate has never met Parker or had anything to do with the Swans or Roos, but that's how easy it is for football stories to get out.

So people pointing the finger at the club or Pert for leaking, are naive to the realties of football clubs.

[dazzledavey36 54,086]

28 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

What does this even mean?

[Mickey 4,629]

My issue with the Clarry situation:

Geelong aren't courting him if they think he's cooked. They clearly believe, with the right support around him, he can return to at least 90-95% of the player he was, which is still one of the best in the comp.

Which means either a) we don't or b) we won't or can't put that same support around him. If it's a, fair enough. But it sounds more like b. And I have no interest in watching him get back to his best anywhere but Melbourne, simply because we won't put any more time or effort into it.

We don't go close to winning the flag without a fit and firing midfield, and a fit Clarry is still a key part of that. No draftee, short of a Daicos or Reid type (of which Ashcroft is the only one this year), will help fill that void. If we trade Clarry, we might as well admit we've given up on the next 2-3 years, which means on May, Gawn, Viney and probably Trac's time, and get started on a full rebuild.

It's time for the club to shut up, get its [censored] together (including at board and executive level) and knuckle down for a huge preseason.

[biggestred 4,975]

14 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What does this even mean?

No one knows what it means but it's provocative. 

 

It gets the people going!

[rufus 1,162]

Between the big name players fumbling under pressure and the administration fumbling under pressure we've produced one of the great downfalls from the high of 2021.

If the club thinks we need to make playing personnel changes in order to become a better football club then in theory I guess we should trust them. Trouble is their approach to player management over the past 12+ months has been nothing short of bizarre. Everything they apprently do seems to work to drop the value of our players and weaken any negotiating power.

If we end up paying one our greatest ever players to play his peak years at another club, while receiving bugger all back, then the club is going to see a backlash rarely seen before. And coming off a foundation that really isn't built to weather that kind of storm I think this is going to end really badly.

My gut feel now is that we need to move on the clowns who are driving our current method of managing the players and try to get all our stars back in the fold and on the same page.

[Adam The God 30,021]

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Who knows. This club is leakier than the Titanic on the way down. 

 

56 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

And if the board is shopping around players the FD wants to keep then what?

December seems like a good time for a board take over.

New president, new board, asap. Should have happened during the season, prior to list management decisions.

[Nascent 9,054]

1 minute ago, biggestred said:

No one knows what it means but it's provocative. 

 

It gets the people going!

Plus you can earn up to 5% more BTC on eligible trades. You heard it here second.

[The Lobster Effect 885]

1 hour ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

I’m confused. Who’s actually selling the farm here? Us or Geelong? 

Rhys Stanley's farm?

[titan_uranus 24,963]

So much of this story is confusing. 

Do we want to trade him, or not?

Does he want out, or not?

The fact that it’s so unclear is in itself an issue. We have repeatedly demonstrated a complete inability to control any narrative about our club. 

[layzie 33,722]

3 minutes ago, The Lobster Effect said:

Rhys Stanley's farm?

There's no doubt Clarry would love to give up the silver service from Max for the might of Rhys Stanley. 

[Jaded No More 68,835]

Clarry at Geelong, with their culture and ability to support players, will win a Brownlow. 

They are a club that doesn't drop their load every time a player gets a little too ummm 'happy' at a nightclub in the middle of the week. They know how to keep their standards, without demanding perfection from players. They support each other from top to bottom. Chris Scott, an annoying [censored] that he is, would take a bullet in the media for his players. 

This is a club that knows how to SHUT UP and get on with it.

 

[drysdale demon 4,823]

19 hours ago, Jeremy said:

You seem like the biggest [censored] on this site hands down 

Having fun on holidays are you?

[cookieboc 774]

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Kangaroos. Then next day, announced his extension. 

He did "meet" with the Kangaroos, but didnt he meet with Geelong before the premiership? (I realise this is a bit more than"not so long ago")

[The heart beats true 18,084]

2 hours ago, Smokey said:

My advice to anyone who needs it - disconnect from footy media for a bit, focus on playing golf

If you think the clubs a mess wait until you see my golf game.

[Dante 2,735]

38 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What does this even mean?

Maybe it was Tracc or Clarry, there could have been an ultimatum.

[praha 11,226]

We would have to be properly dumb in the head to send him to Geelong of all places. 

[Dante 2,735]

4 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

If you think the clubs a mess wait until you see my golf game.

Even if you scored 20 per hole it would be in better shape than the MFC.

The club is the only one I've ever seen that can turn triumph in to disaster, we self sabotage every time.

[DemonJack 14 89]

30 minutes ago, Mickey said:

My issue with the Clarry situation:

Geelong aren't courting him if they think he's cooked. They clearly believe, with the right support around him, he can return to at least 90-95% of the player he was, which is still one of the best in the comp.

Which means either a) we don't or b) we won't or can't put that same support around him. If it's a, fair enough. But it sounds more like b. And I have no interest in watching him get back to his best anywhere but Melbourne, simply because we won't put any more time or effort into it.

We don't go close to winning the flag without a fit and firing midfield, and a fit Clarry is still a key part of that. No draftee, short of a Daicos or Reid type (of which Ashcroft is the only one this year), will help fill that void. If we trade Clarry, we might as well admit we've given up on the next 2-3 years, which means on May, Gawn, Viney and probably Trac's time, and get started on a full rebuild.

It's time for the club to shut up, get its [censored] together (including at board and executive level) and knuckle down for a huge preseason.

This is exactly how I feel about the situation. If Geelong think he is worth pursuing, Why don’t we want to keep him ? Particularly when we will get severe unders and still probably have to pay some of his wage. You need an elite midfield to win a flag , without Oliver we don’t have that.

We don’t seem to be attracting anyone else of note to fill the void this post season. So where are we at then ? Are we saying we are rebuilding ? 
 

We all know that can take a lot of time and that’s if we get it right with recruiting the right kids. It’s a real concern if we can’t land anyone of note in this trade period, Its really hard to see how we are in a better list position next year compared to this year at the moment unfortunately. 
 

 

[layzie 33,722]

3 minutes ago, praha said:

We would have to be properly dumb in the head to send him to Geelong of all places. 

Can't help but feel like we'd be handing them their next premiership. 

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,606]

16 minutes ago, layzie said:

There's no doubt Clarry would love to give up the silver service from Max for the might of Rhys Stanley. 

Clarry should’ve asked Rhys why he only took 1 mark and had 3 kicks in the second half of the Prelim after Big O’s arm fell off and if the Cats are gonna try playing a ruckman next year.. 

Long way to go before any trades happen, bit early for the panic merchants to have everyone sacked already, there won’t be anyone left to sign the paperwork in trade week

[58er 6,331]

1 hour ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Yeah but it appears that the cats are also looking to sell him a farm. 😝

The meeting zi believe was held on a farm. Rhys Stanley’s farm.

That doesn’t mean they ( Cats) are going to get him a farm !!!

Really  no wonder stories get told and are unbelievable!!! 

[Redleg 40,773]

1 hour ago, Demon17 said:

 

The Age has just dropped that Clarry met Rhys Stanley and Tom Stewart at Stanley's farm yesrterday arvo after meeting Hocking etc.

 

Maybe they were showing him his future farms and how to use a tractor.

If Clarry goes, there is a reason and it would be fair to assume, most if not all on DL probably are unaware of it, so let’s hope if he goes we get fair compensation and take a breath.

I am not happy either as he is my favourite Dees player but it will be what it will be.