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Obviously would be of interest.

Takes a steady flow of contested marks and doesn't go missing from games too much. Seems to be incrementally getting better at providing forward pressure.

Probably his most impressive stat is score involvements which is not perfectly consistent but sometimes huge. He has even had a game with more score involvements than effective disposals, which is fun.

I'd still be prioritising Lukosious, but you have stick your finger in every hole these days.

 

 
5 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Obviously would be of interest.

Takes a steady flow of contested marks and doesn't go missing from games too much. Seems to be incrementally getting better at providing forward pressure.

Probably his most impressive stat is score involvements which is not perfectly consistent but sometimes huge. He has even had a game with more score involvements than effective disposals, which is fun.

I'd still be prioritising Lukosious, but you have stick your finger in every hole these days.

 

Is he going to be better than Rooy in a year or two? We need a ready made recruit for forward strength especially if we lose Petty. 

It’s a pity but we should have gone after say Tex at least 2/3 years ago but also have not had BBB or Tmac for hardly any consistent period fully fit either. 

Perhsps we should bite the bullet now and swap Tmac and Harry to see if that keeps the defence strong and provides a bigger bodied target up forward along with Fritta  plus youngsters   and crumbers able to feed of him at times. 


27 minutes ago, 58er said:

Is he going to be better than Rooy in a year or two? We need a ready made recruit for forward strength especially if we lose Petty. 

is he better than jvr now?

comparative #s for 2024:

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3 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

is he better than jvr now?

comparative #s for 2024:

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Which is which, 58er?

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Landsberger's unlocked the secret!

Players go to the club they supported as kids.

Why didn't we think of that?!

Of course, Tracc will be off to the Pies then, too, any day now...

Edited by Timothy Reddan-A'Blew

 

Nope. He’s been in the system longer than JVR and is only marginally in front. I maintain Sydneys forward line is not that good. It’s their ball movement and method which maximises their potential that is the diff. Logan is serviceable but won’t be much of an upgrade on Mihochek 

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

Takes a steady flow of contested marks and doesn't go missing from games too much.

This is not a dig at you LG, he’s averaging 1 contested mark per game this year. I heard the commentators mention it last weekend. Is that a good number? 
For comparison Petty is at 1.3 a game.


1 minute ago, Dee Zephyr said:

This is not a dig at you LG, he’s averaging 1 contested mark per game this year. I heard the commentators mention it last weekend. Is that a good number? 
For comparison Petty is at 1.3 a game.

Always a hard call with KPF as they mature later than other positions. Has he hit his maximum output or does he have upside? 

Personally, I feel we've somewhat missed the boat in terms of acquiring a young established key forward. JvR is locked best 22 and Jefferson is showing significant promise and will be demanding games from as early as next year. Perhaps an older stop gap is required until Jefferson establishes himself in the team on a consistent basis.

Edit: unless we see JvR as a permanent fwd/ruck chop out and put two key forwards next to him. Not my first preference for JvR but could happen.

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49 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Which is which, 58er?

I think given JVR has missed a couple of games, then he's the first.

Also, MFC or MFC player always comes before another team or player in my book

2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

????

It’s a reference to the story called The Hole In The Dike. 
 

edit: just realised this probably brings up more questions than answers. 🤣

The story is about Hans, a little Dutch boy who plugs a hole in the dike (dam) to stop the leaking of the town’s water supply. I can’t remember the rest of it but it has a moral to it. 

Edited by WalkingCivilWar

What about Gawny as a Full time (mostly) fwd. Let him wind down a bit and we can make him last longer . Eventually Gawny will need to be "nursed"  (ala Hawkins)

We could then chase a Ruckman ?


12 minutes ago, dimmy said:

What about Gawny as a Full time (mostly) fwd. Let him wind down a bit and we can make him last longer . Eventually Gawny will need to be "nursed"  (ala Hawkins)

We could then chase a Ruckman ?

That was the plan with Grundy, Gawn didn't want to play long minutes in the fwd line.

11 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

That was the plan with Grundy, Gawn didn't want to play long minutes in the fwd line.

...plus he's an average forward at best.

The Hun and Fox Footy are full time recruiters for Collingwood, Essendon and Geelong.

3 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

It’s a reference to the story called The Hole In The Dike. 
 

edit: just realised this probably brings up more questions than answers. 🤣

The story is about Hans, a little Dutch boy who plugs a hole in the dike (dam) to stop the leaking of the town’s water supply. I can’t remember the rest of it but it has a moral to it. 

Moral of the story; The little boy saves the village from a flood but nobody ever comes to help him and he dies with his finger still in the hole. All that time the village thought he was a naughty boy who had run off, and they only realised he was a hero when it was too late.

And that is why Belgium is Catholic.


1 hour ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

That was the plan with Grundy, Gawn didn't want to play long minutes in the fwd line.

That's not true at all.  He was happy playing a lot of minutes in the FWD line in order to make the team better.  

He was on the front foot willing to sacrifice his game to try and make the team better as its nearly impossible to jag a high quality key forward so he/we tried something different.  Its really very selfless

1 hour ago, rjay said:

...plus he's an average forward at best.

This is definitely true and the reason he didn't play long minutes

1 hour ago, Deeko2 said:

That's not true at all.  He was happy playing a lot of minutes in the FWD line in order to make the team better.  

He was on the front foot willing to sacrifice his game to try and make the team better as its nearly impossible to jag a high quality key forward so he/we tried something different.  Its really very selfless

This is definitely true and the reason he didn't play long minutes

Or wasn't effective enough, i personally reckon we didn't explore it enough after Gawn's knee injury.

6 hours ago, dimmy said:

What about Gawny as a Full time (mostly) fwd. Let him wind down a bit and we can make him last longer . Eventually Gawny will need to be "nursed"  (ala Hawkins)

We could then chase a Ruckman ?

Is Grundy available

 
14 hours ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Which is which, 58er?

Not my figures I think JVR is on the left.

BTW Logan is at least a year older than Rooy and if the table provided is correct in Rooy on LH side they are about equal if Logan is one year ahead. 


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