POSTGAME: Rd 15 vs North Melbourne

[demon3165 2,316]

Well here is where we stand there is no midfielder in our side that would get a game in the swans side and before people go Trac he is not a full time midfielder one could make an argument about max but other than that no one, Sydney has pace, skills, and football awareness this is a issue they will have to address.

 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,105]

1 hour ago, SFebes said:

Positives: Rivers in the midfield (where he should always be now), McVee poise, May, Viney, TMAC did his job again, breast cancer awareness, holding on to win, kids getting gametime, Kynans tackle.

Negatives; Pickett pulling out of contests lately (wonder if it has to do with his reports, Gawn sooking to umpires, how terrible we are actually playing, poor coaching, crowd numbers, skill level, lack of forwards with actual forward craft, Fritsch, Oliver.... (I'd look to trade him if what I'm hearing is true).

Not that we don't know where we are at now considering our efforts against WCE, Frem, Coll and almost losing to North, but a real test against a red hot Brisbane will make or break our season officially I feel.

What are you hearing Febes?

PM me.

[DeeGee 146]

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

It’s complete BS the media choose to focus on Mays staging after what the umps dished up and how it changed the momentum of that game with two free kick goals in the first 5 mins of that quarter.

If it was a Collingwood or Carlton, it’s all you’d hear about. 

Yes, absolutely unbelievable. Kane Cornes has already decided that a fine is mandatory- I thought the umps had a shocker (for both sides) but no mention of that in the media.

[joeboy 2,993]

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

It’s complete BS the media choose to focus on Mays staging after what the umps dished up and how it changed the momentum of that game with two free kick goals in the first 5 mins of that quarter.

If it was a Collingwood or Carlton, it’s all you’d hear about. 

Not to mention the 80 metre penalty ((instead of 50) dished out against Windsor who’d been sucked in by a feigned play on, even though that rule had been removed.

[Deeminion 355]

Not many times I have walked away from a win feeling like it was a loss. 

[binman 39,531]

8 minutes ago, Monbon said:

Did anyone else note the big smile on Adem Yze's face when his mate Brownie's son laid that tackle? I've never seen that before, an opposition coach barracking for a team at another game. Then again, he was one of our great players...

Awesome vision.

Yze seems a genuinely good bloke.

I loved Brown dog's expression too. Sick with nerves. I could relate.

[dees189227 11,264]

22 minutes ago, binman said:

Max gawn about to be interviewed on abc radio.

What did he have to say?

[Flowergirl 53]

2 hours ago, Older demon said:

Can I bring some perspective.

I was lucky enough to be at the Presidents function and the guest speaker almost brought me to tears. Her name is Toni and Steven May is her favourite and he wore her name on his warm-up vest. Look it up and see Toni's story as she met Maisie at Casey this week and there is an Insta photo of her with him post game.

Diagnosed triple-negative breast cancer at the age of 31. Despite becoming infertile a surrogate derived her and hubby a family and then it returns and has metastasised to her brain. Somewhere in all this turmoil she wins the Amazing race and has the courage to state that statistically sometime this year she will become another victim of the cancer. She even stated it could be as early as October. I am not sure I could talk as candidly as she did to an audience. I really didn't mind her saying feck a lot and she was so brave, extroverted and I am glad Maysie played a blinder for her. Somehow the narrow win was nice be she left a legacy with me that goes beyond the game.

My only complaint for the night (umpires aside) is the miserable crumb that thought they could pocket my MCC/MFC staff and pink beanie I left under my seat when I moved away briefly at the end of the game. 

Not our best night but we won. I am so proud of this club for its commitment to Pink Lady and MND. The rest well, it is only a game and the sun came up this morning.

 

This! ❤️

[Deemania since 56 6,322]

1 hour ago, Willmoy1947 said:

We are the Club that all of the year gets obstructed from getting to the ball for the least reward in games, and it looks like it too. Two players in particular Max Gawn, because the umpires are actually s/scared of what he could do if not obstructed and Oliver who is constantly held off the ball at centre bounces.

Now we are talking; these infringements are not part of the rules of the game but we are expected to tolerate these obviously errant umpiring performances moreso than any other club for some AFL-inspired reason. 

[binman 39,531]

3 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

What did he have to say?

Many Demonland posters are too negative and should drink some concrete and harden up.

[whatwhat say what 20,343]

Just now, binman said:

Many Demonland posters are too negative and should drink some concrete and harden up.

word for word!

[The heart beats true 16,660]

3 minutes ago, joeboy said:

Not to mention the 80 metre penalty ((instead of 50) dished out against Windsor who’d been sucked in by a feigned play on, even though that rule had been removed.

This where the AFL has the umpiring all wrong.

The 50 against Windsor (that had changed to not be a 50 over the last off season) was exactly the same as one that wasn’t paid when Tom MacDonald had a mark 40 metres out from Norths goal 3 minutes later. Afterwards the Melbourne defence went ballistic at the umpire about only paying it one way. Umpire 1. was clearly describing that the faked move handball is no longer a 50.

WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION WHY DIDN’T HE STEP IN AND OVERRULE A CLEAR MISTAKE BY HIS PEER? 

He acknowledged to the players minutes later, so he knew it was wrong. 

This is why fans are so frustrated.

[dazzledavey36 49,789]

 

[SFebes 4,748]

Yes the umpiring was atrocious, for both sides too. But that is a league wide problem currently. The introduction of the 4th umpire was meant to makes things easier but I actually think it's got much worse. I used to watch and analyse every game religiously not so long ago, but I find most games unbearable to watch from an umpiring perspective these days.

[Kent 2,674]

26 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

What are you hearing Febes?

PM me.

me to

 

[SFebes 4,748]

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

I'm literally confused on how players should tackle these days, considering this one and a few last night called "dangerous tackle" and then the Dangerfield one (think he tried everything possible) who got a week. It's these inconsistencies that make it hard to watch. I seem to remember Cornes getting a fine for staging once and also one of their buddies Nick Riewoldt milking a free in front of goal (was meant to be given to another player). They're all hypocrites.

[SFebes 4,748]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/535647/kane-no-stager-rodan#:~:text=Cornes was investigated by the match review panel,fine of up to %242400 for repeat offenders.

 

[Sir Why You Little 35,321]

What can you say about last night’s game? 
To play that way against the Bottom Side in the last quarter was just sad to watch. 
We have lost that Demon Flame 🔥

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

Max may have described Oliver's game as 'selfless' but some facts from The Age:

“...he had a dirty night, unable to break the hard tag of Will Phillips. His tally of 14 possessions was his equal second-lowest from 176 games. Seven were turnovers... Wherever Oliver went, Phillips followed. By his side at every stoppage, and in his head... Oliver gave away five frees."

iirc he also gave away at least one 50m.  Had one tackle.

That is not a 'selfless' performance nor is it team oriented play.  By now Oliver should have learnt how to shake a tag or at least match his opponent in effort ie tackles.  Phillips had eight.

Was it just an off night for Oliver.  Methinks, not.

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

Can anyone explain why we used only 65 of our allowed 75 rotations?  If players were as fatigued as some claim should we have not used another 8 to 10? 

Surely those extra rotations would have helped us stave off the Roos attacks in the 4th qtr and in doing so just maybe we could have scored or recovered some momentum. 

We won which is great but on another day not using those rotations will hurt us running out games or winning.

 

Edited June 23 by Lucifers Hero

[PaulRB 6,102]

7 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Max may have described Oliver's game as 'selfless' but some facts from The Age:

“...he had a dirty night, unable to break the hard tag of Will Phillips. His tally of 14 possessions was his equal second-lowest from 176 games. Seven were turnovers... Wherever Oliver went, Phillips followed. By his side at every stoppage, and in his head... Oliver gave away five frees."

iirc he also gave away at least one 50m.  Had one tackle.

That is not a 'selfless' performance nor is it team oriented play.  By now Oliver should have learnt how to shake a tag or at least match his opponent in effort ie tackles.  Phillips had eight.

Was it just an off night for Oliver.  Methinks, not.

Atomised view from the Age.

Footy is a team sport, Clarry finding himself (again) with the heavy tag from Phillips went and sit on Ugle-Hagen (spelling off) which resulted in Jack Viney having more latitude to create, which he did. Hence Goodwin seeing this as selfless, which it was. 

Media analysis is so shallow, click bait and  cult of personality driven that it offers little useful observations… 

Edited June 23 by PaulRB

[demon3165 2,316]

40 minutes ago, binman said:

Many Demonland posters are too negative and should drink some concrete and harden up.

And some should live in reality and look at facts.

[leave it to deever 16,581]

2 hours ago, Nicko said:

Is this normal?

Viney - 38mins on the bench

Sparrow - 34mins

Tholstrup - 35mins

Chandler - 32mins

Van Rooyen - 40mins

McVee - 31mins

Howes - 40mins

Turner - 32mins

Bowey - 35mins

It probably is but it surprised me - I know when you break it down it’s ~8-10mins per quarter for each of them but still seems a lot especially coming off a bye. 

Given how much we struggled fwd, it's a lot for Jvr.

[Redleg 38,503]

1 hour ago, Monbon said:

Did anyone else note the big smile on Adem Yze's face when his mate Brownie's son laid that tackle? I've never seen that before, an opposition coach barracking for a team at another game. Then again, he was one of our great players...

And he has a son who might be taken by us this year.

[Trisul 654]

In isolation, I enjoyed the game.