Change Coming to Father-Son & Academy Rules

[Demonland 66,962]

 

[Bitter but optimistic 21,580]

I'll bet my lefty that the MFC won't get any advantage out of whatever changes are forthcoming.

[Clintosaurus 6,938]

NGA rule changes costs us Mac Andrew and now possibly Kalani White? What a joke.

I think the bidding should be before the trade period. Not sure how it would work but allowing teams to trade out first and second rounders for 15 junk picks is ludicrous.

[ElDiablo14 3,713]

1 minute ago, Clintosaurus said:

NGA rule changes costs us Mac Andrew and now possibly Kalani White? What a joke.

I think the bidding should be before the trade period. Not sure how it would work but allowing teams to trade out first and second rounders for 15 junk picks is ludicrous.

I thought Kalani was almost a certainty for us? We definitely need him as a replacement for Max.

Edited April 17 by ElDiablo14

[Gawndy the Great 8,027]

15 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

NGA rule changes costs us Mac Andrew and now possibly Kalani White? What a joke.

I think the bidding should be before the trade period. Not sure how it would work but allowing teams to trade out first and second rounders for 15 junk picks is ludicrous.

He’ll come through F/S. I doubt he’d be a first rounder though.

If the rumoured changes are true, an interesting scenario that will likely arise is when a club is put in a position where their academy or F/S prospect hasn’t been picked by another club at their pick during the round. They then have to make a choice whether to pick the prospect or take a gamble on another player hoping the prospect gets through to the next round. 

The end of round picks will become highly sought after as clubs with prospects look to pursue some hedging options in the draft making for some frame before and during draft week. 

[Demon trucker 1,800]

19 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

I thought Kalani was almost a certainty for us? We definitely need him as a replacement for Max.

Well if the rules change, then if his in top 20 we will have zero access to him 

[drysdale demon 4,344]

17 minutes ago, Demon trucker said:

Well if the rules change, then if his in top 20 we will have zero access to him 

Probably best to see what the changes are and what selections we have at the time.

[BLWNBA 380]

1 hour ago, Demon trucker said:

Well if the rules change, then if his in top 20 we will have zero access to him 

Why is that? Based on the SEN excerpt, it purely sounds like you'd need to match within a certain amount of picks - it doesn't seem like they're restricting access in the same way that they changed the Academy system. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,213]

2 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

NGA rule changes costs us Mac Andrew and now possibly Kalani White? What a joke.

I think the bidding should be before the trade period. Not sure how it would work but allowing teams to trade out first and second rounders for 15 junk picks is ludicrous.

Not matching the pick 5 bid on Mac Andrew allowed us to bring in JVR and Blake Howes; a solid win so far.

K White is 100% nominating the Dees.

 

[Gawndy the Great 8,027]

21 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not matching the pick 5 bid on Mac Andrew allowed us to bring in JVR and Blake Howes; a solid win so far.

K White is 100% nominating the Dees.

 

Yeah thats my read too, he'd be battline for #1 ruck position by being only a few years behind the newly recruited Ethan Reid. Much better to come down to Melbourne and take the tutelage of the best ruckman of all time in Maximus Aurelius Gawn

The F/S just need to be tightened up not overhauled like the academy system. The F/S just needs an 'anchor' pick from the round they are bidded on. Bundled with other picks to meet the point requirements (if any). It just avoids situations where a club can effectively double dip in the 1st round of a draft without having the round 1 picks. 

The academy is simple, even up the playing ground and take away any concessions afforded to interstate clubs - they always complain on social media about the Victoria clubs getting better treatment. Time for them to get the Victorian experience in the draft. 

Edited April 17 by Gawndy the Great

[Roger Mellie 3,668]

I thought he (KW) played in the backline.

[Palace Dees 2,069]

Getting rid of the 10% matching points discount should have happened years ago.

[Diamond_Jim 12,104]

2 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not matching the pick 5 bid on Mac Andrew allowed us to bring in JVR and Blake Howes; a solid win so far.

K White is 100% nominating the Dees.

 

Unless he has onball skills a la Luke Jackson I can't see a ruckman being picked in the first round in the foreseeable future.

I'm envisaging 1.5 years at Casey minimum if not 2.5. First ruck is a very demanding role.

If it suits him and the family I'd even be offering to leave him in Qld for year 1 to develop just that little more. With his Dad as his ruck coach it probably wouldn't do any harm and gives him just that little more time.

The cold winds of Casey can be a lonely place to ply your trade

Edited April 17 by Diamond_Jim

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,243]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Unless he has onball skills a la Luke Jackson I can't see a ruckman being picked in the first round in the foreseeable future.

I'm envisaging 1.5 years at Casey minimum if not 2.5. First ruck is a very demanding role.

If it suits him and the family I'd even be offering to leave him in Qld for year 1 to develop just that little more. With his Dad as his ruck coach it probably wouldn't do any harm and gives him just that little more time.

The cold winds of Casey can be a lonely place to ply your trade

Bloody tuff on 250k a yer.

[DeeSpencer 23,683]

6 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not matching the pick 5 bid on Mac Andrew allowed us to bring in JVR and Blake Howes; a solid win so far.

K White is 100% nominating the Dees.

 

100%? Great time to join the Gold Coast suns, that’s what I’d be doing 

[whatwhat say what 20,405]

24 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

100%? Great time to join the Gold Coast suns, that’s what I’d be doing 

nope; not if he wants to play as a first choice ruckman any time in the next decade plus

ethan read will have that position locked by the time white is ready to roll

far better to come to the dees, learn from all-time great, and play for the side his old man was terrific for for years

[Diamond_Jim 12,104]

2 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Bloody tuff on 250k a yer.

More like $110k

[Fork 'em 6,629]

I don't know how the father/son rules work.
 
All I know is that I watch the players sing the song after games with armfuls of kids and there are too many girls for my liking.

[BLWNBA 380]

17 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not matching the pick 5 bid on Mac Andrew allowed us to bring in JVR and Blake Howes; a solid win so far.

K White is 100% nominating the Dees.

 

Is that knowledge or just an expectation? 

[Fritta and Turner 3,899]

16 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

I thought he (KW) played in the backline.

I thought he was a forward

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,243]

20 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

More like $110k

I stand corrected DJ. Thanks.

[layzie 30,406]

If we got Mac Andrew we wouldn't have had JVR.

Says the broken record in the corner..

[Roger Mellie 3,668]

10 hours ago, Jontee said:

I thought he was a forward

I've only seen him mentioned as a defender in the last year or so, but I suppose he could end up anywhere on the field:

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1090427/inside-trading-battle-for-son-of-a-gun-roo-to-extend-cat-keen-to-stay

 

[Demon trucker 1,800]

On 18/04/2024 at 07:53, BLWNBA said:

Is that knowledge or just an expectation? 

Well I can tell you, when Jeff talks about Melbourne when he is commentating on the ABC in Queensland, he refers to Melbourne as we.

[BLWNBA 380]

9 minutes ago, Demon trucker said:

Well I can tell you, when Jeff talks about Melbourne when he is commentating on the ABC in Queensland, he refers to Melbourne as we.

Yeah I totally agree that Jeff seems to love Melbourne and I think that's genuine. Kalani seems to have enjoyed his time with the Dees too when he trained last year. But purely based on what I see on social media and some comments Jeff has made about his son, they seem very ingrained in the Gold Coast lifestyle and have a strong network in Queensland. 

I have no personal connection and could be entirely wrong (hopefully so!), but I think there might be somewhat of a lure to staying on the GC given how ingrained he appears to be.