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Still think Tommo is massively stiff, gets to line up on swift Swans fwd line as our mids get swamped, and misses out on Dogs when our mids crushed a lot of their fwd entry

But couldn’t drop Tmac on that performance

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    1 hour ago, sue said:

    But this is the AFL......

    Yes, it all about what team the offender and/or the innocent come from ... these are the eyes of the AFL. 

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    The AFL & various journalists drone on about certain incidents being a bad look that will deter parents from letting their kids play footy. Surely kicking, or attempting to kick, an oponent is a terrible look. And this isn’t the first time Sciliy has done something dodgy. I give up trying to make any sense of these decisions. 

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    2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    If a Melbourne player got suspended for that this site would be in meltdown.

    I don’t want my team kicking opponents deliberately.

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    Just now, Redleg said:

    I don’t want my team kicking opponents deliberately.

    Is a kick a kick when it’s done with zero force?

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    1 hour ago, binman said:

    McAdams would be the option if fit. 

    I wonder with bb playing the lead out full forward role if fritter could play a defensive forward role on Sicily.

    Fritter is a bit out of form and Sicily would take him to the ball. But Sicily wouldn't be able to take too many liberties with fritter either. A danger player to sag off and leave free.

    Fritsch can do it. A few years ago when Nick Haynes was at the height of his powers and broadly recognised as the foremost intercepting halfback in the game, Fritsch nullified him.....twice in the season. I don't share your passion for research @binman and CBF looking up which year it was

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    Just now, Go the Biff said:

    Fritsch can do it. A few years ago when Nick Haynes was at the height of his powers and broadly recognised as the foremost intercepting halfback in the game, Fritsch nullified him.....twice in the season. I don't share your passion for research @binman and CBF looking up which year it was

    Nor do you share his need to write a 3 page essay on the topic 😂 I’m on fire this week!

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    1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

    Nor do you share his need to write a 3 page essay on the topic 😂 I’m on fire this week!

    Fair call. CBF with that either

     
    2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    That was a glancing blow at best. McGrath goes the full hip and shoulder and gets floored. I’m on Sicily’s side here. You want to come at someone with force outside of play then cop your whack. 

    I was joking but 

    Someone moves 50cm on the mark after being told to stand - umpire awards a 50m penalty and the player kicks a goal and wins the grand final

    Is the penalty commensurate with the act - of course not 

    But that’s the rules 

    You introduce shades of grey it invites all sorts of problems imo 

    Kicking someone should not be part of our game imo irrespective of the level of force it’s just an ugly look 

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    1 minute ago, Sydee said:

    I was joking but 

    Someone moves 50cm on the mark after being told to stand - umpire awards a 50m penalty and the player kicks a goal and wins the grand final

    Is the penalty commensurate with the act - of course not 

    But that’s the rules 

    You introduce shades of grey it invites all sorts of problems imo 

    Kicking someone should not be part of our game imo irrespective of the level of force it’s just an ugly look 

    I totally agree but you’ve got to actually kick them not brush your foot against their leg. There’s no force to it and that’s got to be taken into account. Also Robbo thinks he should have been suspended so clearly it’s the correct decision. 


    3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    I totally agree but you’ve got to actually kick them not brush your foot against their leg. There’s no force to it and that’s got to be taken into account. Also Robbo thinks he should have been suspended so clearly it’s the correct decision. 

    Looks like a kick to me whether there was more or less force seems a bit irrelevant 

    But we can have our differences on kicking being acceptable in our game - I’d prefer it was banned 

    How about eye gouging? - not much force required to do some serious damage to someone’s eye - just a quick poke and wallah impaired vision for the rest of the game (if your lucky) 

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    23 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    Is a kick a kick when it’s done with zero force?

    It wasn’t zero force, it was a light kick, but it was a deliberate kick to an opponent’s leg.

    That is not footy.

    I can kick a footy 1 metre or 40 metres and both are kicks.

    You don’t kick people in footy and you don’t send a good message by condoning it.

    Interestingly nearly all ex players in the media said it was a suspension.

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    3 hours ago, rjay said:

    He'll probably take Fritsch, Fritsch will probably take him...

     

    2 hours ago, binman said:

    McAdams would be the option if fit. 

    I wonder with bb playing the lead out full forward role if fritter could play a defensive forward role on Sicily.

    Fritter is a bit out of form and Sicily would take him to the ball. But Sicily wouldn't be able to take too many liberties with fritter either. A danger player to sag off and leave free.

    Most likely....

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    25 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    It wasn’t zero force, it was a light kick, but it was a deliberate kick to an opponent’s leg.

    That is not footy.

    I can kick a footy 1 metre or 40 metres and both are kicks.

    You don’t kick people in footy and you don’t send a good message by condoning it.

    Interestingly nearly all ex players in the media said it was a suspension.

    I think it’s imperative that force be part of the decision. Yes kicking another player is a suspension for mine everyday of the week. I just don’t think Sicily kicked him. It’s barely a brush. It might not look good and I think the ex players are largely playing the macho line of “men don’t kick each other” As JBrown said “ Me Dad said only donkeys kick”

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    I think it was a soft kick, but it’s a terrible look. In soccer, if you kick out at an opponent like that, it’s usually a straight red card. Missing the following week. It looks like another loophole that the AFL will close next year

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    On 18/03/2024 at 10:10, pingu said:

    I was looking for the CBA stats. Which app did you get these on? I could not find anything on the AFL website.

    @pingu AFL app, advanced stats, but I customised the stat display options to add it in.

    2 hours ago, binman said:

    McAdams would be the option if fit. 

    I wonder with bb playing the lead out full forward role if fritter could play a defensive forward role on Sicily.

    Fritter is a bit out of form and Sicily would take him to the ball. But Sicily wouldn't be able to take too many liberties with fritter either. A danger player to sag off and leave free.

    McAdams did this role against Lever last year pretty well. It wouldn't surprise me if that game either peaked our interest or solidified it. Especially once Melksham went down.

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    33 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    I think it’s imperative that force be part of the decision. Yes kicking another player is a suspension for mine everyday of the week. I just don’t think Sicily kicked him. It’s barely a brush. It might not look good and I think the ex players are largely playing the macho line of “men don’t kick each other” As JBrown said “ Me Dad said only donkeys kick”

    Yes assessing force is ok. 1 week for the kick and then add weeks for the degree of force, but to fine for a deliberate kick is pathetic.

    We used to suspend for attempted striking, no force of impact if you miss, but it was an illegal act.

    PS: Travis Boak said it was a bad look and struggled to defend the Tribunal decision. He said if it happened to a team mate he would be furious. Congrats on the 350 games Trav you are a great AFL player.

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    Whoever takes Sicily, I hope they run him up the ground and put body pressure on him. Keep him away from two of BBB, JVR or Fritter, who remain deeper. Sicily likes to peel off and intercept, make him accountable physically, he hates it. And kick to where he ain't 

    Then Frosty will panic and turn it over

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    10 hours ago, picket fence said:

    AGREE 100%

    You will eat your words guys. Just give Harry a chance to get match fit. 


    6 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    We sell $1.4 billion of products to Saudi Arabia each year. 

    Should we stop that too?

    I wasn't telling anyone else what to do.

    And explain to me what is the connection between me choosing not to watch sport sponsored by a government I consider abhorrent, and selling food to people who happen to live there (and don't get a vote)? The Saudi and UAE governments have direct and heinous responsibility for the humanitarian atrocities in Sudan and Yemen by enabling the RSF. Not much different to the Russian government for mine. I don't fly Emirates anymore and gave up a truckload of FF points/ Gold status as well.

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    7 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

    Whoever takes Sicily, I hope they run him up the ground and put body pressure on him. Keep him away from two of BBB, JVR or Fritter, who remain deeper. Sicily likes to peel off and intercept, make him accountable physically, he hates it. And kick to where he ain't 

    Then Frosty will panic and turn it over.

    Kicking it to where he ain't is probably the best solution - he'll do several things across the game that most would think were stupid, just to get back into the game, himself. I'd reckon Sparrow could do the job on him, as well; tougher, faster, more agile, whereas Fritta is a relative lightweight who - in the static mode - could be brushed aside most of the time. Frosty is a complete delight, no matter what colours he wears. At the same time, he will stuff up a few times in panic mode once Sicily is accounted for - our numbers of runners will be able to feed heartily from that type of scenario.

    10 hours ago, Sydee said:

    Looks like a kick to me whether there was more or less force seems a bit irrelevant 

    But we can have our differences on kicking being acceptable in our game - I’d prefer it was banned 

    How about eye gouging? - not much force required to do some serious damage to someone’s eye - just a quick poke and wallah impaired vision for the rest of the game (if your lucky) 

    Kicking is distasteful to say the least , up there with eye gouging, spitting and squirrel gripping, should not be tolerated no matter what the force, bad look for the game.

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    11 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    I totally agree but you’ve got to actually kick them not brush your foot against their leg. There’s no force to it and that’s got to be taken into account. Also Robbo thinks he should have been suspended so clearly it’s the correct decision. 

    Remember the olden days that a player was called "kicker " from the crowd as an insult if they had attempted or tried to kick someone.  That's where Robbo was rightly coming from. It is a low act. (Not Maynard standard mind you)

    It was Sicilys intent.

    He's a kicker.

    10 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    I think it was a soft kick, but it’s a terrible look. In soccer, if you kick out at an opponent like that, it’s usually a straight red card. Missing the following week. It looks like another loophole that the AFL will close next year

    The main issue the MRO have is they had to deem it as 'medium' impact to get a week suspension with the matrix they used.

    I totally agree with the tribunal that it wasn't medium impact, which is why they need greater powers outside of this matrix for certain acts i.e. deliberate kicking, spitting, biting, eye gouging and I would even go as far as to say pinching could be thrown in this. It's all just BS acts on a footy field.

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