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PREGAME: Rd 01 vs Western Bulldogs

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58 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Question for track watchers. Is Adam’s a likely prospect?

Yes but would be surprised if he got opportunities this year. Drafted in the same year as Jeffo so still has lot of development to go in both his game and his body. 

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    BBB has a knack for kicking his 3 or 4 goals against the Dogs in our recent round 1 games.

    Unless he’s nowhere near match fit I’d consider bringing him in. Drop Schache and give JVR or Fullarton the resting ruck gig.

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    1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    BBB has a knack for kicking his 3 or 4 goals against the Dogs in our recent round 1 games.

    Unless he’s nowhere near match fit I’d consider bringing him in. Drop Schache and give JVR or Fullarton the resting ruck gig.

    Ben Brown would be 100 times more effective than Schache. The bloke had four touches. At least Brown’s height and reach troubles defenders and he has leading patterns. Doesn’t just stand still inside 50

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    There are a number of good reasons for BBB's inclusion.

    His forward play nous and experience. His reliable kicking. The fact he will draw defenders and thus take the focus off JVR and frittata.

    However, given his age and wonky knees, the big question is whether he has the fitness and durability to run out a game at AFL level.

    Hopefully the coaching staff have and accurate and reliable take on this.

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    We used to run with 2 KPF’s & a resting ruck. I would bring in BBB if he’s right to go & Fullerton who is a mobile ruck.

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    30 minutes ago, rjay said:

    We used to run with 2 KPF’s & a resting ruck. I would bring in BBB if he’s right to go & Fullerton who is a mobile ruck.

    The resting ruck most often being LJ who could move like a flanker at ground level and one of the key forwards being T Mc who couldn't pressure in tight but would always cover off as well as lead hard up the ground.

    I think barring the sudden emergence of a genuinely mobile key forward we've got the right balance with just 2 talls alongside Fritsch and Petracca forward quite a bit. At least until we see if Fullarton really is super mobile. I think he's mobile for a second ruck rather than Jacko level freakish.

    Plus I just can't see any possibility where BBB coming off yet another injury is right after 1 practice match. Last year he looked shot half way through the second quarter in every game he played, let's give him at least a week, most likely a month at Casey so he can stay healthy and build touch.

    And it's not like we aren't making changes. Fullarton, PIckett, a full game of Salem in the midfield and most importantly something that might resemble proper football weather rather than a swamp could all work wonders before we reach for the BBB emergency siren.

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    33 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    The resting ruck most often being LJ who could move like a flanker at ground level and one of the key forwards being T Mc who couldn't pressure in tight but would always cover off as well as lead hard up the ground.

    I think barring the sudden emergence of a genuinely mobile key forward we've got the right balance with just 2 talls alongside Fritsch and Petracca forward quite a bit. At least until we see if Fullarton really is super mobile. I think he's mobile for a second ruck rather than Jacko level freakish.

    Plus I just can't see any possibility where BBB coming off yet another injury is right after 1 practice match. Last year he looked shot half way through the second quarter in every game he played, let's give him at least a week, most likely a month at Casey so he can stay healthy and build touch.

    And it's not like we aren't making changes. Fullarton, PIckett, a full game of Salem in the midfield and most importantly something that might resemble proper football weather rather than a swamp could all work wonders before we reach for the BBB emergency siren.

    All fair points here. It’s almost impossible for Fullarton to offer any less than Schache and Pickett is an infinite upgrade on Laurie/Spargo so our Round 1 forward line is going to be better even before any weather condition changes. 

    Whatever we do to replace Bowey, we have to prioritise Salem being a mid.

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    I'm putting ben brown in cotton wool until august. I think he only has 7 or 8 games in his knee a season, and when fit is easily our best tall forward. 

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    2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    The resting ruck most often being LJ who could move like a flanker at ground level and one of the key forwards being T Mc who couldn't pressure in tight but would always cover off as well as lead hard up the ground.

    I think barring the sudden emergence of a genuinely mobile key forward we've got the right balance with just 2 talls alongside Fritsch and Petracca forward quite a bit. At least until we see if Fullarton really is super mobile. I think he's mobile for a second ruck rather than Jacko level freakish.

    Plus I just can't see any possibility where BBB coming off yet another injury is right after 1 practice match. Last year he looked shot half way through the second quarter in every game he played, let's give him at least a week, most likely a month at Casey so he can stay healthy and build touch.

    And it's not like we aren't making changes. Fullarton, PIckett, a full game of Salem in the midfield and most importantly something that might resemble proper football weather rather than a swamp could all work wonders before we reach for the BBB emergency siren.

    No can't see BBB being ready either, that was wishful thinking.

    Was going to mention LJ but was posting on the run.

    I think Fullerton is the one we've targeted to take this role.

    Longer term I think our preference is the 3 talls forward but that really is contingent on the quality and that we don't have at the moment.

    Agree on Salem in the middle. He really adds something different. Add a bit of Kozi in there and suddenly we're a bit more unpredictable.

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    19 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    If BBrown or TMac get a game we’re done

    I hear Schache is coming along nicely 🤮

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    9 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

    I hear Schache is coming along nicely 🤮

    I think Dermott nailed it when he described Schache as wanting to win contest in the least physical way possible. 

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    On 07/03/2024 at 22:44, dees189227 said:

    What about McDonald for Schache? Couldn't do any worse.

    Kozzie back, he owes us

    TMac for Schache

    Kozzie for Chandler

    Laurie for Billings

    also Spargo out

    Schache and Laurie shouldn’t be picked again

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    7 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    Question for track watchers. Is Adam’s a likely prospect?

    In the before Christmas preseason, Jed was hammering it. Looked fit, put on more size, was getting plenty of plays in the sims, and generally showing good skills. He was looking like a Petty clone.

    After Christmas, not as much involvement as the others really started to ramp up their intensity, he tapered off.

    He will be given a chance in AfL, sometime this year, in my opinion.

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    Bowey and Schache out

    Kozzi and best tall option in. Fullarton potentially 

    laurie sub, Billings starts

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    Ben Brown for sure. Will kick a goal or two even if he's not having the best day. Also let's JVR get the 2nd best defensive match up 

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    5 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    Bowey 8-10 weeks is a big loss

    Huge isn't it.

    The halfback stocks are dwindling. 

    I'd be tempted to play Spargo back there. Fast, can put pressure on opps, has a good kick, loves spreading to get away from the opps. Not kicking enough goals, and plenty of small forwards to choose from.

    Spargo for the big men's club!

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    11 minutes ago, kev martin said:

    Huge isn't it.

    The halfback stocks are dwindling. 

    I'd be tempted to play Spargo back there. Fast, can put pressure on opps, has a good kick, loves spreading to get away from the opps. Not kicking enough goals, and plenty of small forwards to choose from.

    Spargo for the big men's club!

    I've got no idea what he is like defensively, but he is a great user of the footy. If he plays of half back, surely we could put the footy in his hands a lot more than he's getting it at the moment. My question mark would be on whether he has the leg speed to go with a Weightman.

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    I'd replace Bowey with Woewodin, who played multiple positions as a junior at East Fremantle, including as a running half-back.  It's his third year and imo he's ready.

    Fullerton seems a no brainer for Schache, who hopefully never plays AFL again.

    Pickett replaces Laurie, who's not good enough at AFL level.

    I doubt they'll make more than 3 changes, but the sooner they deem Kynan Brown ready the better.  He already looks better than all our smalls bar Pickett, even with a small sample size.

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    I would replace Bowey with Hore and bring in Woewodin and Fullarton for Laurie for Schache who can both spend the rest of the year in the magoos.

     

     

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    What's Marty Hore like at ground level? Teams know to get the ball to ground in our forward line and they're half a chance. May, Lever and Thomlinson all shaky below their knees. 

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    1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

    OUT: bowey (inj), laurie, schache
    IN: pickett, k brown, b brown

    chandler as sub

    Tired of Chandler being gifted games. Lucky to be sub.

    Hore and Kozzie for Bowey and Laurie.

    Bbb or Fullerton for Schache.


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