27 minutes ago, picket fence said:

He will replace Spargo and or Chandler... oh wait I already had McAdam and Billings in those slots!😁

I get the Windsor pick but this one has me scratching my head 

Not sure with the existing small forwards and the addition of those two above this was a pressing need

Maybe they think he can evolve into a midfielder 

1 minute ago, Sydee said:

I get the Windsor pick but this one has me scratching my head 

Not sure with the existing small forwards and the addition of those two above this was a pressing need

Maybe they think he can evolve into a midfielder 

Our existing small forwards are B graders except for Kossie. 

8 minutes ago, Sydee said:

I get the Windsor pick but this one has me scratching my head 

Not sure with the existing small forwards and the addition of those two above this was a pressing need

Maybe they think he can evolve into a midfielder 

We don't really have a medium forward that can play midfield besides Trac, I reckon it makes sense 

29 minutes ago, Sydee said:

I get the Windsor pick but this one has me scratching my head 

Not sure with the existing small forwards and the addition of those two above this was a pressing need

Maybe they think he can evolve into a midfielder 

Tholstrup isn't a small forward. He's 188cms and plays high half forward. In time he'll become part of the midfield rotation. Consider him a forward half player.

He's shown great ability to be a link up player in a similar mould to ANB. The hope would be he's got attributes to become more explosive and impactful.

Edited November 20, 20231 yr by Lord Travis

21 minutes ago, Sydee said:

I get the Windsor pick but this one has me scratching my head 

Not sure with the existing small forwards and the addition of those two above this was a pressing need

Maybe they think he can evolve into a midfielder 

If I was a winger or half forward at the Dees I would be very nervous about my spot in the 23. 
Caleb Windsor  and Kolt Tholstrup look by highlights and footy info a whole new standard of ( other than Kossie and Lingers ) for our team. 

Caleb an all day runner and ball carrier plus goal finisher who will light up the other wing at the G and Kolt a totally X factor half forward/ mid in time with a license to excite annoy and embarrass the opposition.

Like the  idea of Kolt crashing the blokes that Rooy has missed. Bit more weight on both and they will be cherry ripe for the fight. No more boring connections or forward thrusts!

Two more  gems in the Jason Taylor tradition!

31 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Our existing small forwards are B graders except for Kossie. 

So why did we go and get McAdam (186cms) and Billings (185cms)

I could be wrong, but we seem to be loading up on similar types when we have needs elsewhere. Hope they are confident of keeping Petty beyond next season. 

Welcome aboard Koltyn Tholstrup at 186cm (6’1”) and 86kg you are already AFL size another young bull at the Dee’s, love it.

3 minutes ago, Sydee said:

So why did we go and get McAdam (186cms) and Billings (185cms)

I could be wrong, but we seem to be loading up on similar types when we have needs elsewhere. Hope they are confident of keeping Petty beyond next season. 

McAdam is a legitimate goal kicker with X factor. Billings recruitment is a headscratcher. Both are 28yo, so we still need to look to the future.

How does WAFL and VFL compare in standard?

2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

McAdam is a legitimate goal kicker with X factor. Billings recruitment is a headscratcher. Both are 28yo, so we still need to look to the future.

Billings cost nothing, has great experience and good skills.

You need a squad of players to win a flag. And multiple 18yo's won't cut it

11 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I don’t suppose that Melbourne has ever had a Koltyn playing for the club before?

And have we ever had a Caleb?

Welcome Koltyn. Can’t wait see how you career develops at the Dees. 
 

Just compared his profile to Humphreys from last year. Although not exactly a like for like there’s a lot of similarities. Both mid/forward types  tough and hard at it, have scoreboard impact, power, kicking penetration and good marking ability. JT clearly had a type in mind. 
 

Unlike others I think Koltyn is a a very good chance to make an impact next year. Already has lots of experience playing against seniors and is already in great physical shape. Doesn’t seems like much will bother him. 
Had an injury interrupted season last year, good preseason and  I don’t see why he can’t push for a spot early next year. 

5 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

And have we ever had a Caleb?

We had Cale Morton, who was Cale A.  Now we have Cale B.  

4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Billings cost nothing, has great experience and good skills.

You need a squad of players to win a flag. And multiple 18yo's won't cut it

The same thing was said about Grundy. Every list spot is valuable, and we already have a bunch of experienced players who'll struggle to be best 22.

Billings hasn't played well for 2 years. What makes you think he'll return to his best?

21 minutes ago, mo64 said:

McAdam is a legitimate goal kicker with X factor. Billings recruitment is a headscratcher. Both are 28yo, so we still need to look to the future.

 

17 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Billings cost nothing, has great experience and good skills.

You need a squad of players to win a flag. And multiple 18yo's won't cut it

I'd suggest we identified wing and half forward as an area we really need to improve. Maybe it's about *gasp* forward connection.

We don't know what will be available at the draft so we traded for Shane McAdam who can play as a medium forward, take marks and kick goals. He's 28 and hopefully will have an immediate impact. But he has a ceiling that we know. We also pick up Billings cheap. It's a dice roles. If his body holds up we know what he offers at his best. 

At the draft we pick up two kids who we hope can have impact in the short term, but realistically have 3-5 years before they hit their straps, like all kids.

Tholstrop is a high half forward, with great endurance and agility, like ANB, but also super strong in the contest, a better kick. His ceiling is a player that is a bit of an ANB/Petracca hybrid.

And we add Windsor, a winger with burst pace and great skills. Plus the ability to kick at pace. He'll start in the rotations, HFF, HBF, wing. I expect they see him as an upgrade on Jordan with potential to take Hunters spot on the wing.

15 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

How does WAFL and VFL compare in standard?

It would be hard to compare with so many AFL affiliated clubs in the VFL, and only 2 in the WAFL. 

The AFL affiliated clubs in the WAFL don't dominate, and the Eagles 2s didn't win a game this year. At VFL level, non-affiliated clubs like Werribee and Williamstown performed well this year.

It makes so much sense to get a half forward with grunt and connect.  We don't have one of those with BOTH attributes. Also, Langdon has been nothing like his pre-rib injury form, which might be the kick in the pants he needs.  Anyone can run all day but you need to be damaging as well.

Koltyn Tholstrup - when your real name makes a porn-name redundant.

I'm listening to SEN WA this morning and hearing the interview with Koltyn Tholstrup. Koltyn is overwhelmed and very grateful to come to the Melbourne Football club. I have no doubt he will play senior Football next year 2024 and will have an immediate impact. 

2 hours ago, Sydee said:

So why did we go and get McAdam (186cms) and Billings (185cms)

I could be wrong, but we seem to be loading up on similar types when we have needs elsewhere. Hope they are confident of keeping Petty beyond next season. 

These two are now coming into the peak of their career in terms of age and experience. 

They certainly won't be around forever though, and both still have significant question marks over them IMO.

Probably a good thing Adelaide took Curtin. Takes the heat and desperation away from chasing Petty.

2 hours ago, adonski said:

We don't really have a medium forward that can play midfield besides Trac, I reckon it makes sense 

I hope Sestan can take the next step. He's not small, 188cm, can take a good mark, is hard at the contest, and certainly knows where the goals are. I hope he can put in a good uninterrupted preseason.

2 hours ago, Sydee said:

So why did we go and get McAdam (186cms) and Billings (185cms)

I could be wrong, but we seem to be loading up on similar types when we have needs elsewhere. Hope they are confident of keeping Petty beyond next season. 

Because we have an elite midfield and elite defence, and need a much better forward half cohort. We've gone about addressing that by giving ourselves options.

Koltyn is explosive, McAdam has x factor, Billings has ball use, and Windsor has run, carry and ball use to keep Hunter and Langdon honest on the wing, or play half back and allow a Bowey or McVee to play higher up the field.

Edited November 21, 20231 yr by Binmans PA

3 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Tholstrup isn't a small forward. He's 188cms and plays high half forward. In time he'll become part of the midfield rotation. Consider him a forward half player.

He's shown great ability to be a link up player in a similar mould to ANB. The hope would be he's got attributes to become more explosive and impactful.

 

2 hours ago, deanox said:

Tholstrop is a high half forward, with great endurance and agility, like ANB, but also super strong in the contest, a better kick. His ceiling is a player that is a bit of an ANB/Petracca hybrid.

One thing to remember is he was playing high half forward as he was playing WAFL seniors. If he was playing Colts he more than likely would have been playing mid and been picked as a mid. Playing seniors in that positioned showed he has real potential to develop into a somebody who can play both positions at a high level. Anyone that can do that well is a real game changer.  ie Dusty, trac, Danger

Edited November 21, 20231 yr by BangBnagBang

9 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

Because we have an elite midfield and elite defence, and need a much better forward half cohort. We've gone about addressing that by giving ourselves options.

Koltyn is explosive, McAdam has x factor, Billings has ball use, and Windsor has run, carry and ball use to keep Hunter and Langdon honest on the wing, or play half back and allow a Bowey or McVee to play higher up the field.

With insights like that you'll soon go from PA to running the entire organisation!

3 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

 

One thing to remember is he was playing