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The problem is there isn’t a Tom Lynch hanging round to grab like Richmond did in 2019.

Petty and JVR with an extra pre season is in my mind at least equal to TMAC and BBB. It’s not Buddy and Roughy but it’s enough. 
 

I think our problem is we haven’t replaced Jackson as Grundy wasn’t the answer. 

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    Harry Petty = problem solved.

    He's got JVR in support who was incredible for a 2nd year player and Joel Smith who kicked 3 goals in the SF and should have had 4. Fritsch is an aerial threat and so is McAdam who's coming. Jefferson is developing at VFL level.

    Priorities are everywhere else.

     

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    47 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

    JVR, Petty, and Jefferson. We will be fine next year. Just this year we were stiff with injury with Petty.

    Jefferson’s a 2025 prospect at best.

    Need someone, anyone to bridge the gap between the 2 main guys and Schache and the broken old fellas 

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    7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Jefferson’s a 2025 prospect at best.

    Need someone, anyone to bridge the gap between the 2 main guys and Schache and the broken old fellas 

    Chol appears to be the only realistic ruck/fwd available - what do you think?

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    55 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Jefferson’s a 2025 prospect at best.

    Need someone, anyone to bridge the gap between the 2 main guys and Schache and the broken old fellas 

    If it's just to "bridge the gap" how much capital are you willing to spend?  And who?

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    57 minutes ago, old55 said:

    Chol appears to be the only realistic ruck/fwd available - what do you think?

    Casboult would be worth a discussion as well. 

    At least with Chol and Casboult, they could also hold the fort if Max goes down in the short term.

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    3 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    Jamara, 5 5 5

    I dont think Jamara is a key power forward. He is a 2nd or 3rd tall. Great mark, but has shown at times he cannot play in a congested forward area. Doggies move it quicker than us and even then, he is very inconsistent. 

    Petty, J Smith, JVR is a good enough setup. Work on craft, isolate our forwards and move the ball quicker and you will see an immediate improvement. 

     

     

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    19 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

    If it's just to "bridge the gap" how much capital are you willing to spend?  And who?

    There’s another thread that has the list of names but it’s slim pickings. I’m sure I’ve forgotten some.


    If it’s Lynch it’s an early second, maybe a first if the Tigers pay a big chunk of his wage.

    If it’s Chol it’s probably a late second and the Suns pay his salary down to match his talent.

    If it’s Casboult then a good salary but no trade cost (free agent)

    If it’s Jacob Koschitzke then pick 60 and a 1 year deal with incentives.

    Id give a pair of 3rd rounders and 2 years on solid pay to Jack Buller (contracted).

    Id give a 3rd rounder and 2 years to Buku Khamis because he has swing man potential 

    Lachie Gollant (contracted) - late second rounder, decent contract. 

    Elliot Himmelberg - 4th rounder, 1-2 year deal 

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    23 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

    Casboult would be worth a discussion as well. 

    At least with Chol and Casboult, they could also hold the fort if Max goes down in the short term.

    How old is Levi? 32? Body is still sound?

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    15 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    There’s another thread that has the list of names but it’s slim pickings. I’m sure I’ve forgotten some.


    If it’s Lynch it’s an early second, maybe a first if the Tigers pay a big chunk of his wage.

    If it’s Chol it’s probably a late second and the Suns pay his salary down to match his talent.

    If it’s Casboult then a good salary but no trade cost (free agent)

    If it’s Jacob Koschitzke then pick 60 and a 1 year deal with incentives.

    Id give a pair of 3rd rounders and 2 years on solid pay to Jack Buller (contracted).

    Id give a 3rd rounder and 2 years to Buku Khamis because he has swing man potential 

    Lachie Gollant (contracted) - late second rounder, decent contract. 

    Elliot Himmelberg - 4th rounder, 1-2 year deal 

    If Lynch is deemed too expensive then for me Casboult is the solid cut price alternative from that list. 

    He is certainly durable. Played 41 games for the Suns over the past two seasons. 60 goals (35 last year, 25 this year). Big brute of a lad, 200cm, could provide ruck relief for Gawn. 

    Much prefer Lynch though. 

    It’s a no on Chol for me. Hardwick shopping him out of two clubs says a fair bit about what he thinks of his application and attitude. 

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    34 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

    How old is Levi? 32? Body is still sound?

    I have a mate who is friends with Levi - his knees are about as good as BBB - look elsewhere is my suggestion 

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    We enquired about Jacob Koschitze in the past. Showed a lot of potential in 2021 and 2022 before having an interrupted and disappointing 2023. He might be gettable very cheap. Only 23 years old and perfect size at 198cm and 96kgs. Can clunk and a mark. We should enquire again…

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    25 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

    We enquired about Jacob Koschitze in the past. Showed a lot of potential in 2021 and 2022 before having an interrupted and disappointing 2023. He might be gettable very cheap. Only 23 years old and perfect size at 198cm and 96kgs. Can clunk and a mark. We should enquire again…

    If true why not on Jacob?

    Levi is worth a crack on low

    chips.

    Himmelberg for the Crows is a lost cause.

    Gollant i don't know much about but he's done sweet F all for the Crows SANFL side.

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    5 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Jefferson’s a 2025 prospect at best.

    Need someone, anyone to bridge the gap between the 2 main guys and Schache and the broken old fellas 

    Perfectly said. You wrote in one sentence what I tried to in the opener ;)

    I just hope the club can find someone to fill the void with the low price tag talent that exists out there. The difficult thing is finding it.

    Edited by ignition.

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    I'd go hard at Tom Lynch. As others have said, Petty and JVR are the future, but need some more depth in this area so 2023 doesn't repeat 

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    5 hours ago, old55 said:

    Chol appears to be the only realistic ruck/fwd available - what do you think?

    Would he want to leave or stay with Hardwick is coming in?

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    I think a lot of people are putting too much expectation on Petty his only played 1 good game as a forward he played a few stinkers down there this year that no one seems to be talking about. I don’t know if there’s any chance of getting him but I think I’d rather try get Naughton the Jamara and Lynch 

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    1 hour ago, Deemac said:

    I think a lot of people are putting too much expectation on Petty his only played 1 good game as a forward he played a few stinkers down there this year that no one seems to be talking about. I don’t know if there’s any chance of getting him but I think I’d rather try get Naughton the Jamara and Lynch 

    Was playing well v Hawks and North in games he was injured in. Provided his foot heals well/promptly, expect him to do a good job next year.

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    I don't want to see the words key forward and operation in the same sentence ever again. 

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    I feel like many on here are buying into the media's argument that we don't have a key forward.  The reality is we've got Petty, JVR with Jefferson developing.  Then we have 2-3 agile medium forwards in Smith, Fritsch and likely McAdam / Melkshem. It's not the problem it's made out to be - we were unlucky to have our two talls out for carlton and fritsch still on his way back from injury.

    What we are missing is the 200cm resting ruckman.  We tried with Grundy but he's an extra midfielder that rucks rather than a player that is comfortable taking contested marks.  Do we really want to have JVR taking the ruck when Gawn is off in 2024?  What about when he gets injured?  Can Gawn continue to play 80+ game time going forward and be fresh in September?
    I've said it before but we should be going after the best forward / ruck going around.  He doesn't have to kick a bag each week - but if he kicks his one or two most weeks and rucks when Gawn needs a rest then that is what we need.

    I'd be going after Tom Fullerton but I'm sure there's other options.

    Seperate from that I'd be going after good ball users in the middle

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    It might be a dumb suggestion as he is key to our back successes, but what about putting Steven May at full-forward and getting Ben McKay from North as a key back? 

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