The 2023 Draft and Trade Targets Thread

[DeeZone 10,130]

On 9/17/2023 at 4:14 PM, DistrACTION Jackson said:

My ideal off-season would be as follows:

- Trade for Mabior Chol to be our ruck/forward (44 goals in 2022 show he is no slouch)

- Trade Grundy for pick 22 and then look for a cheap back up ruck option (Hayes or Flynn spring to mind)

- Utilise our picks pick 13, 22, 24, 34 and future first to end up with two top 10 picks and ideally another within 20 this year

- Draft one of McKercher, Duursma or Sanders with our first pick

- Draft O'Sullivan with our next pick

- Draft a classy ball user with our 3rd pick and Kynan Brown with a later pick

- Trade a 3rd rounder to Adelaide for McAdam

There will be other players that I'm sure will pop up, but that to me is the key things we need to address.

Oh and I would not be trading Tomlinson and plan to play him with Lever and May next season and a forward line with Petty, JVR and Chol.

Potential team:

B:        McVee        May              Rivers

HB:     Salem          Tomlinson    Bowey

C:       McKercher   Viney           Hunter

HF:     Petracca      Petty            Neal-Bullen

F:        Fritsch         JVR              Pickett

R:        Gawn           Oliver           Brayshaw

Int:      Chol            McAdam       Sparrow        Chandler

Looks great but where is Lever.!!

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

Oscar Allen is untouchable and the last time I heard the term 'war chest' used at the dees it was at the start of the Neeld years.

[John Demonic 5,850]

24 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Looks great but where is Lever.!!

He traded him for Chol 

[KingDingAling 3,758]

7 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Darcy Moore is one of the best high marks in the game, he has a slight susceptibility to body contact which is why he’s better playing more zone. But his run and jump is elite.

Watch this cut up of O’Sullivans game. Excellent positioning. Gorgeous hands at ground level, the way he holds, shimmies and releases handballs is better than just about any mid in this draft.

But starting from the first few contests and throughout the video he’s letting the ball get over the back or getting out marked in contests. Very rarely does he get a clean spoil or leap (Lever) or push bodies out of the way (May) to intercept mark. Teaching him to spoil shouldn’t be too hard, he’s in position and has the athleticism, but teaching anyone to take contested marks is very hard.

 

 

I’ve watched football for 40 years. I have not seen a better young key defender. This kid has sticky hands, is athletic, great user of the footy, fantastic decision maker, and most importantly - has height. I’d take him with our first. 

[dazzledavey36 55,360]

 

[BigMacjnr 283]

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Power interested in Soldo is the only new piece of info

As well as:

The Roos will secure picks two and three, with clubs now believing they could secure a mid-first round pick from the AFL at pick 11 — after the non-finalists — to help preserve the draft order which will be impacted by academy and free agency picks.

Thanks for the breakdown. Wow, even more reason to go after the GCS pick 4. People say the Swans pick 11 shouldn't be in the conversation for Grundy but the first round might go up until pick 25 this year. Swans pick 11 I have as pick 18 based on bids and this additional North pick...wow, give them Grundy pick 24 and 32 and call it a day. Picks 11 and 13 and a future 2nd to GCS for pick 5 that will become pick 6 or 7 after bids on Walter and possibly Read.  

[DeeSpencer 26,082]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Power interested in Soldo after securing Sweet?

They're hitting Grundy/Melbournesque levels here..

They do need to replace Lycett and probably Dixon who can't be trusted to be healthy, so it's not that crazy. It would also mean at least 1, if not both of Hayes and Teakle are on the trade block.

[BaliDemon 401]

How about this for a scenario:

- Pick 5 take Nick ‘Wizard’ Watson

- Send 2024 first rounder to Richmond for Tom Lynch. 

- Pick 32 to Adelaide for Shane McAdam

- Send Grundy to Sydney for pick 22. Then package up picks 13, 22 & Jefferson to Geelong for pick 7. They can use those picks to regenerate their midfield and forward line in the post Danger/Selwood/Hawkins era. 

- Pick 7 take Conor O’Sullivan 

 

McVee May O’Sullivan

Salem Lever Rivers 

Langdon Petracca Brayshaw

Watson Petty McAdam

Fritsch Lynch Pickett 

Gawn Oliver Viney

Sparrow Smith Bowey JVR ANB Hunter Tomlinson 

Edited September 19, 2023 by BaliDemon

[Supreme_Demon 3,899]

19 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

I’ve watched football for 40 years. I have not seen a better young key defender. This kid has sticky hands, is athletic, great user of the footy, fantastic decision maker, and most importantly - has height. I’d take him with our first. 

Agreed! 😎👍

Would be an ideal long-term replacement for Steven May.

It is also another reason that the Demons should aim to get as many picks in the top 15-20 as possible.

Which will ensure sustained success at the Melbourne Football Club.

Anyway, I have full faith in Jason Taylor and the rest of the recruitment team at the Demons.

Edited September 19, 2023 by Supreme_Demon

[adonski 12,436]

Jarryd Lyons might be worth a shout as a depth option 

[WERRIDEE 5,512]

Is Stephens still on the table? Wouldn't mind him for part of the Grundy deal.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Just now, WERRIDEE said:

Is Stephens still on the table? Wouldn't mind him for part of the Grundy deal.

Going to North, wants a regular senior game

[Clintosaurus 7,865]

Jackson Hately is worth a look

[Adam The God 30,420]

2 hours ago, BaliDemon said:

How about this for a scenario:

- Pick 5 take Nick ‘Wizard’ Watson

- Send 2024 first rounder to Richmond for Tom Lynch. 

- Pick 32 to Adelaide for Shane McAdam

- Send Grundy to Sydney for pick 22. Then package up picks 13, 22 & Jefferson to Geelong for pick 7. They can use those picks to regenerate their midfield and forward line in the post Danger/Selwood/Hawkins era. 

- Pick 7 take Conor O’Sullivan 

 

McVee May O’Sullivan

Salem Lever Rivers 

Langdon Petracca Brayshaw

Watson Petty McAdam

Fritsch Lynch Pickett 

Gawn Oliver Viney

Sparrow Smith Bowey JVR ANB Hunter Tomlinson 

I'd take Watson and O'Sullivan, but Richmond will want picks this year, not futures.

I'd also go Lynch and think they'll want a late first or early second for him, plus us taking the whole contract.

[Demons11 7,051]

2 hours ago, BaliDemon said:

How about this for a scenario:

- Pick 5 take Nick ‘Wizard’ Watson

- Send 2024 first rounder to Richmond for Tom Lynch. 

- Pick 32 to Adelaide for Shane McAdam

- Send Grundy to Sydney for pick 22. Then package up picks 13, 22 & Jefferson to Geelong for pick 7. They can use those picks to regenerate their midfield and forward line in the post Danger/Selwood/Hawkins era. 

- Pick 7 take Conor O’Sullivan 

 

McVee May O’Sullivan

Salem Lever Rivers 

Langdon Petracca Brayshaw

Watson Petty McAdam

Fritsch Lynch Pickett 

Gawn Oliver Viney

Sparrow Smith Bowey JVR ANB Hunter Tomlinson 

I like the creativity here but surely Lynch is not worth a 1st rounder.  

[Roost it far 8,621]

No to Lynch, too old, I’m for extending the window not having one last crack

[2021 301]

23 hours ago, adonski said:

Power interested in Soldo is the only new piece of info

As well as:

The Roos will secure picks two and three, with clubs now believing they could secure a mid-first round pick from the AFL at pick 11 — after the non-finalists — to help preserve the draft order which will be impacted by academy and free agency picks.

Does the Roos getting pick 11 mean they don’t get additional access to Ryley Sanders?

[Clintosaurus 7,865]

Lynch would give Jeffo more time to build a tank and muscle up

[Greg Schneider 987]

Just now, 2021 said:

Does the Roos getting pick 11 mean they don’t get additional access to Ryley Sanders?

Sounds to me that Sanders is out of the equation for them and they’ll just get pick 11 outright? 

[Adam The God 30,420]

We only need Lynch for two years. 

I've posited Lynch before, but would probably prefer a younger forward like JUH, Naughton, King ahead of him. 

[BaliDemon 401]

9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I like the creativity here but surely Lynch is not worth a 1st rounder.  

Well there are first rounders and there are first rounders. Our future first is likely/hopefully to be pick 15 - 18. Shuffle that along another few with the charity academy and whatever selections and it would seem about right. 

To put it in perspective we picked Bailey Laurie with pick 22. 

[BaliDemon 401]

9 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Lynch would give Jeffo more time to build a tank and muscle up

And if not Jefferson then definitely Van Rooyen. Still only 20yo and far from the finished product physically and in terms of experience. I think we need to be very careful we don’t develop ‘JVR the Saviour’ syndrome at such a young age. 

Tom Lynch at FF while May & Gawn have probably two more prime years left makes a lot of sense to me. 

Edited September 19, 2023 by BaliDemon

[Clintosaurus 7,865]

14 minutes ago, 2021 said:

Does the Roos getting pick 11 mean they don’t get additional access to Ryley Sanders?

My info is the McKay offers aren't enough for Band 1 compo. Wonder if 11 is their compo instead of end of first round?

[Demons11 7,051]

2 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

My info is the McKay offers aren't enough for Band 1 compo. Wonder if 11 is their compo instead of end of first round?

 I just read that McKay’s compo will be band 1, surely they don’t get that and pick 11 

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11 minutes ago, BaliDemon said:

And if not Jefferson then definitely Van Rooyen. Still only 20yo and far from the finished product physically and in terms of experience. I think we need to be very careful we don’t develop ‘JVR the Saviour’ syndrome at such a young age. 

Tom Lynch at FF while May & Gawn have probably two more prime years left makes a lot of sense to me. 

 Very old spine Stevie Maxy and Lynch 

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