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PREGAME: Rd 12 vs Carlton

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40 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:


Fed-up, irrational me: Drop Kysaiah Pickett. Dude needs a wake-up call. His five-minute cameos shouldn’t be enough to guarantee selection week in, week out. 
 

Logical, rational me: maybe don’t listen to that other guy. 

He is never going to be a high possession player - it's fair to say we have high expectations from him and some weeks he is just doing enough and nothing more.

If you want to hypercritical even his first goal (as miraculous as it was) was probably not team first sort of stuff because I think he may have burnt an option or two on the inside but chose to take the 1/1000 option which worked but more lucky bounce than anything else

I do think we are one small too many in F50 and if up to me Chandler is gone well before Pickett

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    1 hour ago, Megatron said:

    Is it worth throwing Tmac down back and allow lever to be the third tall. Since Petty was just starting to show a bit down forward, keep him there. I just don’t trust Tomo enough to bring him back in. 

    wont be Petty hes out for few weeks or Tmac down back would be disaster

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    55 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:


    Fed-up, irrational me: Drop Kysaiah Pickett. Dude needs a wake-up call. His five-minute cameos shouldn’t be enough to guarantee selection week in, week out. 
     

    Logical, rational me: maybe don’t listen to that other guy. 

    In round 1 be played alot of time in the midfield and read was BOG rarely seen much time there since, why it wasn't even tried on Saturday with Oliver out is beyond me

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    1 hour ago, Megatron said:

    Is it worth throwing Tmac down back and allow lever to be the third tall. Since Petty was just starting to show a bit down forward, keep him there. I just don’t trust Tomo enough to bring him back in. 

    Tmac is IMHO still carrying a foot issue that I think he just tries to play through. Watching him run on and off the bench ( I sit behind it)he can barely get above a jog and looks like he has a bit of a limp. Been like that since he came back last year

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    War has just broken out at Carlton with Craig Mathieson quitting the board after a bust up with club president Luke Sayers. 

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    OUT - HARMES

    One of the most selfish games Ive seen for a long time. Classic case of a player whos been in the twos and played in the seniors for himself and himself only to keep his spot/career.

    Last straw was the mark he dropped in the last Q that was going to hit JVR on the chest. He looked at JVR and still decided to put his hand out to try and mark it running with the flight of ball.

    Had enough.

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    22 hours ago, YearOfTheDees said:

    They match up well the Melbourne and always push us even when they are [censored]. If we don't bring our A game we will get beaten. 

    We've beaten them the last 7 times in a row back to 2017.

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    Just now, old55 said:

    We've beaten them the last 7 times in a row back to 2017.

    I know but they push us to the limit every time we play them. 

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    I would bring in Tommo to free up lever. Need 2 talls to cover Curnow and McKay 

    Hunter back in.

    Harmes out.

    radical alternate plan j Smith in, TMac back and Hunter in

     

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    7 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

    OUT - HARMES

    One of the most selfish games Ive seen for a long time. Classic case of a player whos been in the twos and played in the seniors for himself and himself only to keep his spot/career.

    Last straw was the mark he dropped in the last Q that was going to hit JVR on the chest. He looked at JVR and still decided to put his hand out to try and mark it running with the flight of ball.

    Had enough.

    His consistent fend offs rather than using the first option are coach killers. If you don’t trust yourself and your team mates to give a quick handball you’re fundamentally broken as a player. Yet alone spoiling team mates in the air  

    The problem is we’re crying out for a half forward with a bit of speed, power and size. Freo’s half backs were killing our smalls, but it can’t be Harmes 

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    Just now, buck_nekkid said:

    I would bring in Tommo to free up lever. Need 2 talls to cover Curnow and McKay 

    Hunter back in.

    Harmes out.

    radical alternate plan j Smith in, TMac back and Hunter in

     

    Which one of Curnow or McKay are you putting Tomlinson on because their goal kicking woes won’t matter when they have 20 shots. 

    Lever just has to grow a set and win some contests, which in fairness he has been doing. With the occasional loss which I can live with unless it comes with the game on the line (should’ve been a free for unrealistic attempt not withstanding)

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    23 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

    War has just broken out at Carlton with Craig Mathieson quitting the board after a bust up with club president Luke Sayers. 

    I'm ok with that as long as it's not the coach. 

    Can't remember the last time a team 'did it' for a board member. 

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    14 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

    OUT - HARMES

    One of the most selfish games Ive seen for a long time. Classic case of a player whos been in the twos and played in the seniors for himself and himself only to keep his spot/career.

    Last straw was the mark he dropped in the last Q that was going to hit JVR on the chest. He looked at JVR and still decided to put his hand out to try and mark it running with the flight of ball.

    Had enough.

    Surprised people are just catching on to this?

    Why do you think he's always attempting don't argues and gets pinged straight away and then it kills momentum. The dude is a wannabe Dusty.

    His sole role in the team should be a tagger first and foremost or nothing else. Goodwin has now shown he's not willing to run a tagger in the team anymore which means Harmes has no place in the side and simply should not be playing because he doesn't add much either way.

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    7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Surprised people are just catching on to this?

    Why do you think he's always attempting don't argues and gets pinged straight away and then it kills momentum. The dude is a wannabe Dusty.

    His sole role in the team should be a tagger first and foremost or nothing else. Goodwin has now shown he's not willing to run a tagger in the team anymore which means Harmes has no place in the side and simply should not be playing because he doesn't add much either way.

    He can’t make decisions quick enough.

    Gets found out with the game speed increases we’ve seen since 2021. 
     

    The decision to bring him in was odd

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    11 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Of course they are ...

    Paging @Jaded No More

    Cerra ain’t a chance of getting off that, arms pinned and slung into the ground hitting his head. 
    Even their lawyers will have problems carrying suitcases with that amount of cash into AFL HQ. 

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    On 5/27/2023 at 3:42 PM, ElDiablo14 said:

    Just give a chance to Disco Turner, Laurie or any of the other midfielders in Casey.

    Maybe Sasche or Melksham.

    If we are not going to be serious about contending for a flag at least lest develop some young talent.

    The second and third lines seem a touch contradictory.

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    Riv mid. Riv mid. I know he’s been mostly good down back but Gus can roll back with Hunter in. It’s time to unleash Rivers on ball.

    FB: Hibberd May McVee
    HB: Salem Lever Brayshaw
    C; Hunter Petracca Langdon
    HF: Spargo T Mc ANB
    FF: Pickett JVR Fritsch 
    Foll: Gawn Rivers Viney
    Int: Grundy Bowey JJ Sparrow
    s: Chandler 

     

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    In: Hunter, Brown or Schache, Turner or Tommo

    Out: Harmes, TMac, plus another

    TMac in the side has gone on too long. If Brown's not considered mobile enough, bring in the Shack. The two KPD experiment is failing. Bring in Turner (more agile) or Tommo (less) to let Lever go back to his interceptor role. Also happy to bring in Laurie for Chandler but can't entertain J Smith at this point. I feel he'd get in the way. Happy for Rivers to spend more time on ball and hope Gawn exits his shell.

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    32 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

    I would bring in Tommo to free up lever. Need 2 talls to cover Curnow and McKay 

    Hunter back in.

    Harmes out.

    radical alternate plan j Smith in, TMac back and Hunter in

     

    Agree.

    I think one of Tomlinson or T Mac has to play as a defender to help support May and Lever. 

    Lever had an awful game statistically with just 2 marks, well down from his typical 5-6 marks a game, while May only got 8 possessions which is simply unheard of. The only games for Melbourne where he's gotten single digit possessions were games where he went off injured.

    I get that Tommo plays more bad games than good post his ACL but I think our defensive structure needs to be looked at.

     

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    16 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Live footage from AFL House

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    Thought that was Cripps with a headset on.

    Maybe giving advice. 

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