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  On 22/05/2023 at 23:16, Slartibartfast said:

What a fantastic coach and what a wonderful legacy he will leave at Richmond. It is never as simple as one man but he was front and centre of the Tigers success along with our very own Craig Cameron amongst others. 

Dimmas record speaks for itself, but Craig Cameron, didnt he leave the Tigers in Feb 2013? Never valued Camerons judgement since he said he didnt rate Eddie Betts.

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      On 23/05/2023 at 00:55, chook fowler said:

    A bit precious to say that there are no more stressful jobs than coaching. I could give him a long list.

    Indeed.

    And almost all jobs on that that long list would be paId way, way less than what Dimma would be on.

    My MICA paramedic mate says hi. 

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    Funny how he lost his passion for the job once they started losing and quit on the weekend they are officially out of finals.

    Or you could see the year out and break through some kids and set the club up for next year. Or wait until the club has a replacement ready.

    Not his obligation but it is the best thing for the club

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      On 23/05/2023 at 01:29, DubDee said:

    Funny how he lost his passion for the job once they started losing and quit on the weekend they are officially out of finals.

    Or you could see the year out and break through some kids and set the club up for next year. Or wait until the club has a replacement ready.

    Not his obligation but it is the best thing for the club

    The best thing for the club is to be honest and if coaching the year out without telling them would’ve created stress and anger that’s not good. If coaching the year out after telling them would’ve just been mostly futile that’s not good either.

    Once he’s made his mind up that his time is up at Richmond he may as well finish up. With Balmy and seasoned assistant they’ve got enough experience to handle the next few months. 

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    Craig Cameron an architect for their success??

    Oh please lol.

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      On 22/05/2023 at 11:30, Wells 11 said:

    It’s so out of the blue that I gotta wonder if he jumped or was pushed? Something tells me there’s a fair bit more to this story than meets the eye. 

    Yep. 

    Maybe he had health issues, or has another gig lined up next season (eg port or the suns) and needs a break, or perhaps he feels he needs to support his great mate who is struggling.

    Or perhaps he is simply burnt out and doesn't feel he can do the job justice.

    Maybe it's a combo of all these things. Or not.

    Until there's more information I'd prefer to wait before jumping to conclusions.

    But whatever the reason, tigers fans will be poleaxed.

    They're probably still coming to terms with loss to the bombers and the fact that finals are most likely now out of reach.

    And now they have to deal with tgis palaver and bedding in a new coach.

    Wowsers.

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      On 23/05/2023 at 01:06, Jontee said:

    Dimmas record speaks for itself, but Craig Cameron, didnt he leave the Tigers in Feb 2013? Never valued Camerons judgement since he said he didnt rate Eddie Betts.

    CAC got rid of Millar and Wallace, employed Dimma and Blair Hartley and the rest is history.

    He was part of their success.

    As for passing on Eddie, so did every other club as Eddie was taken as a rookie.  JT passed on McKay and Curnow for Weideman so I suppose you'll never value him.😀

     

     

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      On 23/05/2023 at 01:49, binman said:

    Wowsers.

    I've called tigers supporters lots of things over the years but not that.  I had a Tigers mate whose ambition in life was to drink me to death.

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      On 23/05/2023 at 01:35, DeeSpencer said:

    The best thing for the club is to be honest and if coaching the year out without telling them would’ve created stress and anger that’s not good. If coaching the year out after telling them would’ve just been mostly futile that’s not good either.

    Once he’s made his mind up that his time is up at Richmond he may as well finish up. With Balmy and seasoned assistant they’ve got enough experience to handle the next few months. 

    yeah I agree

    I guess my point is I don't think he would have quit if the Tigers were in with a chance this year.  So he is essentially quitting as the era is over and there is no chance of more success

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    I bet he would not have quite if they beat the druggos by 5 points. Oh essenscum the 1 point heroes !!. He realized they were not going to make the 8 and walked.

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      On 23/05/2023 at 02:13, dl4e said:

    I bet he would not have quite if they beat the druggos by 5 points. Oh essenscum the 1 point heroes !!. He realized they were not going to make the 8 and walked.

    I think this is probably right but I just wouldn’t couch it negatively. He was there to drive this group to success, he knew he wasn’t the guy to see through a rebuild. When it was clear that this was what was going to have to happen, he handed over the reigns. No point in him starting a rebuild that he won’t see through.

     I’m guessing a big part of him thought they could have one last big dance but the writing is now clearly on the wall.

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      On 23/05/2023 at 01:49, binman said:

    Yep. 

    Maybe he had health issues, or has another gig lined up next season (eg port or the suns) and needs a break, or perhaps he feels he needs to support his great mate who is struggling.

    Or perhaps he is simply burnt out and doesn't feel he can do the job justice.

    Maybe it's a combo of all these things. Or not.

    Until there's more information I'd prefer to wait before jumping to conclusions.

    But whatever the reason, tigers fans will be poleaxed.

    They're probably still coming to terms with loss to the bombers and the fact that finals are most likely now out of reach.

    And now they have to deal with tgis palaver and bedding in a new coach.

    Wowsers.

    Hey Andy ( @Demonland). By the power invested in me by absolutely no one, I suggest @binman be sanctioned with a one week suspension for such thoughtful restraint on Demonland.

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      On 23/05/2023 at 01:57, Slartibartfast said:

    CAC got rid of Millar and Wallace, employed Dimma and Blair Hartley and the rest is history.

    He was part of their success.

    As for passing on Eddie, so did every other club as Eddie was taken as a rookie.  JT passed on McKay and Curnow for Weideman.

    I was having a good day until this.

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      On 22/05/2023 at 09:44, Diamond_Jim said:

    Three time premiership coach.

    Pioneered a style of game we called chaos ball.

    Deserves respect. Has left Richmond as a stronger club than when he started.

     

    I reckon a lot of that had to do with Patty and Gale

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      On 23/05/2023 at 00:55, chook fowler said:

    A bit precious to say that there are no more stressful jobs than coaching. I could give him a long list.

      On 23/05/2023 at 01:08, binman said:

    Indeed.

    And almost all jobs on that that long list would be paId way, way less than what Dimma would be on.

    My MICA paramedic mate says hi. 

    Completely taken out of context. Selective editing of Dima's observation changes the meaning.

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    Outstanding coach. Will have his pick of jobs. Every team with a vacancy will chase him hard.

    And the Richmond hoards love him. Doesn't really matter what we think.

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    Going to take the benefit of the doubt path on this and say I think he was going to leave this week independent of the result last Sat night. 

    It's never an easy decision to call time on a place you've called home for over a decade and with all the success he was able to achieve I'm sure he would have preferred to go out a different way. I haven't always loved his actions as a player or coach but I wish him the best. 

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      On 23/05/2023 at 03:30, layzie said:

    Going to take the benefit of the doubt path on this and say I think he was going to leave this week independent of the result last Sat night. 

    It's never an easy decision to call time on a place you've called home for over a decade and with all the success he was able to achieve I'm sure he would have preferred to go out a different way. I haven't always loved his actions as a player or coach but I wish him the best. 

    I don't. Can't stand him. 

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    Joins a very select group - AFL coaches who left without being sacked.

    I think he's adopting a very smart strategy. He wants people to say "Why did he leave?" rather than stay too long when people will instead say, "Why didn't he leave?" 

    I admire him for what he's doing. I'm sure it's good for his own mental health and reputation. It's also good for Richmond as it gives them enough time to adopt a thorough process to have a new Senior Coach on board before decisions are required for trading and drafting later in the year.

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    One can be a great coach and a not so great person. 
    The point still remains that he is a great coach and I can only hope that Goodwin achieves with us what Harwick achieved with Richmond. 

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      On 23/05/2023 at 00:55, chook fowler said:

    A bit precious to say that there are no more stressful jobs than coaching. I could give him a long list.

    Not sure about this Chook. I reckon coaching is up there in terms of stressful jobs. Its a very public, heavily scrutinised position on insecure employment terms, you are responsible for more than 50 people many of who are young kids in their early 20's who regularly get themselves into trouble and look up to you, and every year around 20% of the workforce is turned over.

    There aren't too many jobs out there that combine public scrutiny, outcome based performance, managing upwards of 50 people, and job insecurity.

    Would be good for you to list some more stressful jobs for reference.

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