Damien Hardwick

[640MD 3,377]

20 hours ago, Jjrogan said:

This is the guy that held back a teenager so his teammate Wallis could punch him. Yup real warrior. What a fighter. Tough as nails.  Dont let the door hit you on the way out, im sure the team and everyone that depends on you will be fine despite you dont want to honour a contract that pays you exactly what you signed up for.  Sorry, not sorry. 

Totally agree.  Wallis him and Long. stuff them,   they were thugs !

 

however he can coach a bit.   But I do not want him.   so I'm not sorry either.

[Nascent 9,215]

8 hours ago, Redleg said:

That is 4 years away at least. 

Correct. Still wouldn't be surprised.

[chookrat 4,250]

5 hours ago, binman said:

Indeed.

And almost all jobs on that that long list would be paId way, way less than what Dimma would be on.

My MICA paramedic mate says hi. 

Binman, while I'm sure being a MICA paramedic is stressful in that they are dealing with life and death situations on a regular basis I think being a senior coach would be a more stressful job overall.

While being a paramedic would deal with more stressful situations and real risk of issues such as PTSD, they have a high degree of job security and their work is done when their shift ends. Senior coaches have the constant stress of managing more than 50 people to deliver success in a high performance industry (noting emergency is high performance as well) and have little to no job security. Both roles are difficult and subject to burnout but there is no financial or other support available for senior coaches once they finish.

[Redleg 40,926]

The Suns stories are starting already.

It would be realistic to guess he is already signed for next year.

 

[640MD 3,377]

4 hours ago, Jontee said:

I've called tigers supporters lots of things over the years but not that.  I had a Tigers mate whose ambition in life was to drink me to death.

My tiger mate, likes the pizz so much, after about 6 pots you would think he was speaking another language, have no idea what he is saying except he means it.  You can tell from the anguish on his face.

[640MD 3,377]

3 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

Lucky he didn't coach us to three flags then.

He would not have been offered the gig.  We are far to refined !

[Redleg 40,926]

I think we are going to be sprayed with BS about how he lost his drive, when in reality it’s probably a new gig at huge money, with a very good emerging list, that has many more advantages than most clubs, ( academies/picks) to get even better. Not to mention a warmer climate and nicer lifestyle.

[DubDee 25,885]

if he goes to the Suns, do we finally get our preferred succession target in Dew??

 

*attempted joke/humour

[BDA 22,755]

27 minutes ago, DubDee said:

if he goes to the Suns, do we finally get our preferred succession target in Dew??

 

*attempted joke/humour

he can replace Yze if he gets a senior coach job

#dreamteam

[chook fowler 19,459]

3 hours ago, chookrat said:

Not sure about this Chook. I reckon coaching is up there in terms of stressful jobs. Its a very public, heavily scrutinised position on insecure employment terms, you are responsible for more than 50 people many of who are young kids in their early 20's who regularly get themselves into trouble and look up to you, and every year around 20% of the workforce is turned over.

There aren't too many jobs out there that combine public scrutiny, outcome based performance, managing upwards of 50 people, and job insecurity.

Would be good for you to list some more stressful jobs for reference.

Solo GP in a remote area

Accident and Emergency Staff

Family Services social worker

Teacher in a disadvantaged area

Aged Care workers

anybody trying to support a family on a limited income.

 

 

[chookrat 4,250]

36 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Solo GP in a remote area

Accident and Emergency Staff

Family Services social worker

Teacher in a disadvantaged area

Aged Care workers

anybody trying to support a family on a limited income.

 

 

Chook I agree that the jobs that you have listed can be quite stressful as they involve working with trauma and social disadvantage, however, I don't think they would normally have the same level of stress as a senior AFL coach for the reasons I outlined earlier.

[chook fowler 19,459]

15 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Chook I agree that the jobs that you have listed can be quite stressful as they involve working with trauma and social disadvantage, however, I don't think they would normally have the same level of stress as a senior AFL coach for the reasons I outlined earlier.

I am sorry but have to disagree. Life and death decisions are involved and until you have to make them it is hard to understand the impact they have. That’s all I have to say - I don’t want it to become a debate and I’m not trying to disrespect Dimma.

[Pipefitter 2,159]

Smart move. The whole “We back our veteran coach for the next bottom out rebuild” never eventuates. 

[layzie 33,814]

12 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Solo GP in a remote area

Accident and Emergency Staff

Family Services social worker

Teacher in a disadvantaged area

Aged Care workers

anybody trying to support a family on a limited income.

 

 

I'm with you.

Anything with life at stake trumps all. 

[YearOfTheDees 3,266]

Has a team ever made finals after the coach has been fired or quit. I don't think they are good enough but I can see the Tigers winning their next four games. 

[binman 42,986]

22 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Completely taken out of context. Selective editing of Dima's observation changes the meaning.

A lesson in how disinformation spreads in 2023:

• person x reads article by journo who's main goal is to get clicks not accurately report information
• person x posts their take on this grey info (on social media, forums, etc )
• person y reads person x's take and further confuses the original information. 

Outcome - dimma says there is no more stressful job in the world, including MICA paramedics, the Pope and Thai cave rescuers. 

Edited May 24, 2023 by binman

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,787]

21 minutes ago, binman said:

A lesson in how disinformation spreads in 2023:

• person x reads article by journo who's main goal is to get clicks not accurately report information
• person x posts their take on this grey info (on social media, forums, etc )
• person y reads person x's take and further confuses the original information. 

Outcome - dimma says there is no more stressful job in the world, including MICA paramedics, the Pope and Thai cave rescuers. 

Doesn't the Pope have twice the responsibility of most given that he has to worry for people both now and in the afterlife?

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,850]

56 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Doesn't the Pope have twice the responsibility of most given that he has to worry for people both now and in the afterlife?

It's a good question @La Dee-vina Comedia. I suspect Francis addresses the here and now and lets the afterlife take care of itself. Just an additional thought.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Queanbeyan Demon
Typo

[Roost it far 8,277]

Leppitsch will be top of the list

[layzie 33,814]

Think I'm done with this subject, 1 day was enough. 

[Macca 16,972]

Not sure that Hardwick is out of pocket either ... gets paid out for this year you'd imagine and then gets to walk into another job next season at $1Million per season

Remembering that a sacked coach only gets paid out 6 months severance

So he effectively gets at least 4 months paid leave (about $350k) and walks into more millions down the track

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Macca

[dl4e 5,851]

18 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Leppitsch will be top of the list

Voss part 2.

[Roost it far 8,277]

4 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Voss part 2.

Not at all

[binman 42,986]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Doesn't the Pope have twice the responsibility of most given that he has to worry for people both now and in the afterlife?

Yep, very stressful job - particularly if you factor in the rocket science, brain surgery, constantly having to reaffirm his Catholicism and his inexplicable need to regularly [censored] in the woods.

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

15 minutes ago, Macca said:

Not sure that Hardwick is out of pocket either ... gets paid out for this year you'd imagine and then gets to walk into another job next season at $1Million per season

Remembering that a sacked coach only gets paid out 6 months severance

So he effectively gets at least 4 months paid leave (about $350k) and walks into more millions down the track

Nice work if you can get it

Why would someone resigning get paid for the year? I’d imagine he has a heap of leave entitlements that it doesn’t matter but I’m not sure Richmond should pay a full 4 months that he won’t work.

The big question is will Richmond seek trade compensation if/when he signs a new deal before his Richmond contract expires. I think they could and they should.