Saints player Caminiti been offered four matches by the MRO after he brutally knocked out his teammate Mitch Owens. The AFL in the hysterical fear of litigation and trying to be seen as eliminating head contact has deemed Caminiti’s actions and careles, high and severe. The MRO deemed any reasonable person who jumps at the ball should be held responsible for their actions 

RGRS is this a jest.!!!

5 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

RGRS is this a jest.!!!

A prediction on where some clowns are taking our game 

Funnily enough both Owen’s and Caminiti were the last two remaining goal scorer legs on a SGM @$876 for me. 
Hurt. 
 

Gawn has also been sited for running though the banner with his left shoulder. The Banner had to leave the ground and never returned. Micheal Christian has stated that this action must be removed from the game. 

I'm also hearing there might be a retrospective MRP finding involving Jeff White from the 2005 finals series.

The charge may involve Jeff White missing weeks for his jaw making contact with Steven King's foot which left the innocent King with a slightly sore foot as he kicked White in the jaw. 

More details to be released as the day unfolds.

Sort of on topic, involving weird suspensions and St Kilda players, was Tony Lockett once suspended for striking a team mate in a practice match?

On a serious note the Caminiti/Owen incident is very similar to the Neil Sachse/Kevin O’Keefe incident many years ago where Sachse charges at the ball and falls forward head first and hits O’Keefe’s knee who is coming the other way. Left Sachse a quadriplegic who eventually died of complications a couple of years ago. 

Edited May 22, 20231 yr by John Crow Batty

The Sachse incident is exactly why I keep banging on about penalising a player who dives kamikaze like into a pack or another player.   It will sadly happen again.  The action needs to be vigorously discouraged and a free kick against (and certainly not a free for high contact) paid consistently would minimise this highly dangerous practice.   Concussion is bad enough: paraplegia is immediately and permanently life changing,  for everyone involved. 

Edited May 22, 20231 yr by monoccular

28 minutes ago, monoccular said:

The Sachse incident is exactly why I keep banging on about penalising a player who dives kamikaze like into a pack or another player.   It will sadly happen again.  The action needs to be vigorously discouraged and a free kick against (and certainly not a free for high contact) paid consistently would minimise this highly dangerous practice.   Concussion is bad enough: paraplegia is immediately and permanently life changing,  for everyone involved. 

Excellent post which will probably get lost in this thread but it's worth serious debate. 

I've been of the view that the AFL missed a trick a few years ago. Rather than call play on when a player ducks into a tackle,  the ducker should be penalised with a free kick against. 

The action would soon be coached out of players if it's costing the team. 

2 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

On a serious note the Caminiti/Owen incident is very similar to the Neil Sachse/Kevin O’Keefe incident many years ago where Sachse charges at the ball and falls forward head first and hits O’Keefe’s knee who is coming the other way. Left Sachse a quadriplegic who eventually died of complications a couple of years ago. 

It was actually Max King's fault. He clearly pushed Jack Buckley in the back who then fell forward into Owens, whose head was collected by Caminiti's knee. Would be good to see umpires starting to pay free kicks against star forwards and blatant cheats like King, Lynch, Hawkins, etc. but it will never happen

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2 hours ago, monoccular said:

The Sachse incident is exactly why I keep banging on about penalising a player who dives kamikaze like into a pack or another player.   It will sadly happen again.  The action needs to be vigorously discouraged and a free kick against (and certainly not a free for high contact) paid consistently would minimise this highly dangerous practice.   Concussion is bad enough: paraplegia is immediately and permanently life changing,  for everyone involved. 

Our own Gus Brayshaw had to be effectively taken out of the midfield and learn a completely new way of attacking the ball because he habitually went head first into the contest, leading to an extensive concussion history. I absolutely agree that this action is extremely high risk and should be actively pushed out of the game. 

2 hours ago, Go the Biff said:

Excellent post which will probably get lost in this thread but it's worth serious debate. 

I've been of the view that the AFL missed a trick a few years ago. Rather than call play on when a player ducks into a tackle,  the ducker should be penalised with a free kick against. 

The action would soon be coached out of players if it's costing the team. 

I thought several years ago the AFL said they would pay frees against duckers for this reason.  But it never seems to have happened.

One free kick for kicking in danger and the push in back rule is stuffed

Imagine Big Carl in the current era. Wouldn't get on the ground.

8 hours ago, dice said:

It was actually Max King's fault. He clearly pushed Jack Buckley in the back who then fell forward into Owens, whose head was collected by Caminiti's knee. Would be good to see umpires starting to pay free kicks against star forwards and blatant cheats like King, Lynch, Hawkins, etc. but it will never happen

Exactly this. I hate how blatant pushing in the back has been allowed to creep back into the game.

11 hours ago, monoccular said:

The Sachse incident is exactly why I keep banging on about penalising a player who dives kamikaze like into a pack or another player.   It will sadly happen again.  The action needs to be vigorously discouraged and a free kick against (and certainly not a free for high contact) paid consistently would minimise this highly dangerous practice.   Concussion is bad enough: paraplegia is immediately and permanently life changing,  for everyone involved. 

Way back when the AFL made the head sacrosanct, many thought I was crazy for arguing strongly against it for the reasons you have articulated. When I learned to play football, we were not taught to go head first, it’s a modern technique (and tactic), developed to draw free kicks.

 

By making superficial efforts to protect the head, the AFL have made the game more dangerous and less skilled.

Sort of reminds e of some ridiculous suburban/urban speed limits.

Whilst supposedly about reducing risk of injury/death by lowering impact speed allit seems to do in many areasis remove the obligation for own safety as ppl just walk out into/onto streets expecting....no demanding cars evade/avoid them.

Its this same sense of arrogant entitlement whereby a player absolves himself of any responsibility of actions and transfers it all to another.

Can we just remove all  the warning labels........

I keep forgetting Caminiti is an actual player. Sounds made up