PREGAME: Rd 04 vs West Coast

[layzie 34,415]

3 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

It's only round 4.  Plenty to play out this season so let's not jump the gun re Jordon leaving.

You'd have to have faith in our FD and also recognise we have more than 22 worthy senior players on the list.

He'll force his way back in, plenty of time.

[Macca 17,120]

Jordon probably the sub and might end up on the ground before half time anyway (for any sort of reason including resting a player who might have a niggle)

I'd be surprised if Melksham is the sub before Jordon

[Key Deefender 143]

Maybe a late change with Hibbo out and JJ back in? Hibbo was listed as a doubtful starter during the week. Tommo was also stiff to be dropped after Round One and ended up as a late in for May.

[layzie 34,415]

1 minute ago, Key Deefender said:

Maybe a late change with Hibbo out and JJ back in? Hibbo was listed as a doubtful starter during the week. Tommo was also stiff to be dropped after Round One and ended up as a late in for May.

Reckon they would do that if they drop Hibbo? Tommo or Turner more likely.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

Jordon stiff. 

[DubDee 26,433]

9 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

I thought you were suggesting Hibbo and Brown out for Kossie and Tmac. If that’s the case then you need to move a current player in the team back to replace Hibbo but I may have misunderstood you.

Gus, Judd, Riv, Bowser, Lever and May can’t stay on the ground all match. Who relieves them?

good point. i was thinking 5 half backs is too many but with only 4 plus lever and may we are short 

[heath55 63]

46 minutes ago, Winners at last said:

Not happy!! Agree with others re JJ.

Also, I don't think Tmac deserved to be recalled after only 1 good match at Casey.

Who do you pick as the tall replacement instead of TMac? Because they were always picking a tall - Goodwin indicated as much during his presser 

[Redleg 42,053]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jordon dropped..

Bizarre decision. 

 

After Coach said he was excellent.

[Fritta and Turner 4,678]

Absolute disgrace

 

[layzie 34,415]

Gee wiz 

[Clayton spirit 269]

Very stiff luck, and I'd argue Melksham fits the sub bill better and retains it over Jordon

[Key Deefender 143]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Reckon they would do that if they drop Hibbo? Tommo or Turner more likely.

They just move the chess pieces around. Players can play in multiple positions. 

[DubDee 26,433]

so good we are in a position we’re genuinely good players have to be dropped. 

it’s a case of last in first out. harsh on Jordon but that’s the reality. he played well last week and he’ll be back in soon. 

calling this a disgrace is just embarrassing 

[Dee Zephyr 19,290]

We’ve just beaten a team we’ve struggled to beat in the last decade by 50 points. Of course JJ is stiff, but that’s where we’re at as a club. Embrace it. 

[FlashInThePan 1,893]

On 4/6/2023 at 6:06 AM, titan_uranus said:

No it's not.

We've been given two home games against West Coast since Round 2, 2014. There was no requirement in our NT contract that West Coast had to be the side we played in Darwin or Alice Springs, so the AFL had that choice. 

It's utterly ridiculous that we are going to hit 10 years without playing West Coast in Melbourne. 

Also remember that we have drawn West Coast away in every season since 2012, other than 2015 (i.e. in 2019 we had a return game against West Coast in Perth). 

Just to be clear, there is no draw and there is no ‘fairness’. The fixture is entirely engineered to obtain maximum ratings and attendance, constrained only minimally by the ladder position of a team.

We have not historically drawn big crowds, so unfortunately we have no leverage to get games where we want them. If we keep being successful and grow our following we will start to get a better fixture. Until then we will play the cats at GMHBA and west coast at Optus where the stadiums will likely fill. It may seem unfair, but like I say, it is not about fairness, it is about the afl making money.

[Ollie fan 3,647]

I think the selection is 100% correct. 
 

We obviously are going to continue with the Petty forward trial. That means TMac HAD to come in, to add an extra tall down back or, if Petty struggles, an extra one forward. Kossie has to come in. Jordon is stiff but the fact is, we have minimal injuries ATM (touch wood) and that means good players will miss out eg Harmes,  and even Salem will have to earn his way back in. What a great situation!! But as we get the inevitable injuries and/or rest players mid-season, people like Jordon will get their chance.

 

PS Bbb will likely be “injured” for a while, if we kick 20 goals again.

Edited April 7, 2023 by Ollie fan

[CHF 2,817]

Hard decision over the cheese board this week.

Pickett had to come in and we needed another tall into the side in place of Brown. The choice of the tall was between Tmac and Tomlinson a toss up. I would have gone with Tomlinson and given Tmac another run with Casey.

The out for Pickett meant that we were always going to drop one of Jordon or Sparrow. Hard selection for the one dropped. 

Jordon to be sub?

Strong team none the less.

Dees by a lot.

 

Go Dees!

[Demon Dynasty 17,135]

Tough call on JJ but them's the breaks when getting close to a full list with many in good form.

He will work his way back in no doubt but might have to be patient.

Where's Harmes at?  Top bloke and been so loyal / consistent with his week in / week out application / attendance throughout his career.  Very unlike him to miss for weeks on end (bar injury).

Hope all is well here

[FritschyBusiness 1,478]

2 hours ago, FlashInThePan said:

Just to be clear, there is no draw and there is no ‘fairness’. The fixture is entirely engineered to obtain maximum ratings and attendance, constrained only minimally by the ladder position of a team.

We have not historically drawn big crowds, so unfortunately we have no leverage to get games where we want them. If we keep being successful and grow our following we will start to get a better fixture. Until then we will play the cats at GMHBA and west coast at Optus where the stadiums will likely fill. It may seem unfair, but like I say, it is not about fairness, it is about the afl making money.

You are spot on.
I had a quick look into the attendance numbers and for us against West Coast and over the last 20 years in Melbourne, Well it has been pretty poor.
An average of 20K at the MCG where in WA (optus/subiaco) when we play WC they average at least 40k.
It's double the revenue in ticket sales for the AFL for us to go over there if we only play them once during in the season.

Now we haven't had a chance to see what the numbers would be for a crowd at the MCG since 2014 as we sold our home game in 2019 to NT.

I would imagine if this game was in Melbourne this year we'd crack 40k

[Demon Dynasty 17,135]

1 hour ago, CHF said:

The choice of the tall was between Tmac and Tomlinson a toss up. I would have gone with Tomlinson and given Tmac another run with Casey.

Reckon if they were 'all in' on Petty forward this would be the case (Tomo over Macca)

That Macca offers a potential dual option of playing down back or forward is a bit of a tell here.

Is Tomo's potential for getting his next call up (bar injury) is in a funny way somewhat dependent on how successful (or otherwise) the Petty forward experiment goes from here?

Edited April 7, 2023 by Demon Dynasty

[CHF 2,817]

15 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Reckon if they were 'all in' on Petty forward this would be the case (Tomo over Macca)

That Macca offers a potential dual option of playing down back or forward is a bit of a tell here.

Is Tomo's potential for getting his next call up (bar injury) is in a funny way somewhat dependent on how successful (or otherwise) the Petty forward experiment goes from here?

I have the view that Petty’s last game in defence was pretty ordinary and he was a bit lucky not to have been dropped and Tomlinson retained when May came back. 

[demon3165 2,846]

21 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Reckon if they were 'all in' on Petty forward this would be the case (Tomo over Macca)

That Macca offers a potential dual option of playing down back or forward is a bit of a tell here.

Is Tomo's potential for getting his next call up (bar injury) is in a funny way somewhat dependent on how successful (or otherwise) the Petty forward experiment goes from here?

Tmac is a backward step, going to the well again, Jesus are have so many injuries that kids from the under 10's will be filling in, use tommo as a spare ruck if you have to.

[monoccular 17,701]

5 hours ago, layzie said:

Tragic.

Over the top hyperbole.

Tragic is kids getting cancer, or young parents getting killed. Or living in Ukraine  

Yes, it seems unfair but life isn’t always fair.  The selectors have their reasons and have undoubtedly told JJ what these were.  

[old55 23,848]

3 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

I think the selection is 100% correct. 
 

We obviously are going to continue with the Petty forward trial. That means TMac HAD to come in, to add an extra tall down back or, if Petty struggles, an extra one forward. Kossie has to come in. Jordon is stiff but the fact is, we have minimal injuries ATM (touch wood) and that means good players will miss out eg Harmes,  and even Salem will have to earn his way back in. What a great situation!! But as we get the inevitable injuries and/or rest players mid-season, people like Jordon will get their chance.

 

PS Bbb will likely be “injured” for a while, if we kick 20 goals again.

I expect that TMac has come in for BBB and will therefore play forward with Petty and we'll go with the same set-up back as last week - Lever and May. Otherwise Tomlinson would come in ahead of TMac if we wanted a tall back.

If things go pear shaped due to in game injury or some WC tall forwards getting off the leash then Petty or TMac can go back.

Kossie has come into the midfield mix in the 22 for JJ, clearly the FD continue to rate Sparrow ahead of JJ as they have consistently for more than 18 months.

Edited April 7, 2023 by old55

[layzie 34,415]

2 hours ago, monoccular said:

Over the top hyperbole.

Tragic is kids getting cancer, or young parents getting killed. Or living in Ukraine  

Yes, it seems unfair but life isn’t always fair.  The selectors have their reasons and have undoubtedly told JJ what these were.  

Ok I'm sorry it's not tragic, just seemed like a raw deal considering he played his heart out last Sun. Will use better words next time.