NON-MFC: Rd 02 2023

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20 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I am also really happy for Sheezel. I’m Jewish and it is a massive massive deal to have a Jewish kid not only drafted into the AFL but be a genuine star. It’s really fantastic. I wonder if today is the first time two Jewish players have taken the field together in the same side? 
 

It certainly is fantastic. The quest for total inclusivity should never stagnate. This goes quite a way towards that goal, (pun absolutely intended, this kid’s a ⭐️)

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43 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Jackson should be texting Max to see how his knee is. Gawn did all he could to make Jackson a star and he [censored] all over him and our club. Deserves nothing. 

Just a tad ridiculous, even for you Jaded

And how do you know he hasn't messaged Max to show concern for his knee? More than likely he has, I'd say

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7 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

Just a tad ridiculous, even for you Jaded

And how do you know he hasn't messaged Max to show concern for his knee? More than likely he has, I'd say

Never said he didn’t. 
And if you don’t think that deciding mid season that you’re out the door, putting in no effort for half a season and then not even engaging with another WA club that held pick 2 (when all you apparently wanted was to go home) is not [censored] all over the club, then you’re a lot kinder than I am. 
 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

At least we are still in the 8 and tomorrow Geelong will be bottom 4. Joy.

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1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

but if you watch the clock, it went to 00 just as the ball bounced before the boundary line

so it didn't go oob in game time

I guess i was referring to the whole last quarter where some were paid while others were not. The whole rule is inconsistent and unclear. This game was a good example.

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,357]

I’m not talking about St Kilda winning the flag (because that’s Collingwood’s IMO) but I reckon there’s a bit of a whiff of Melbourne 2021 about them to start the season.

After a couple of years in the wilderness, the group has a collective buy in and a major emphasis on defence and keeping the opposition to insanely low scores.

Could not be more impressed considering their injury list, and have major upside in regards to returning players.

[bing181 9,436]

Going to be tough this year. I actually felt more optimistic last year, at least you knew where you were. Collingwood and Lions both look scary when they click. Going to need everything to go right. 

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3 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Going to be tough this year. I actually felt more optimistic last year, at least you knew where you were. Collingwood and Lions both look scary when they click. Going to need everything to go right. 

Brisbane were not that good last night. We were just plain terrible. Hard to say whether we were shell shocked from Gawns injury.

Collingwood play with no fear and have a game plan that is all out attack. Question is whether they can sustain that all year long. All it takes is a single team trying something different to break them down and then all else will follow if it works. 

It’s early days and declaring flag favourites right now is plain old ridiculous. 

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3 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

 

It’s early days and declaring flag favourites right now is plain old ridiculous. 

Not sure where I said any team were favorites.

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3 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Brisbane were not that good last night. 

I actually thought they were very good until they called it a night when the lights went out.

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8 hours ago, daisycutter said:

does anyone really listen to sen?

Even when I do try the signal is so cr@p that I usually turn it off again. 

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[Ollie fan 3,646]

I always understood that the game stopped when the umpire blows his whistle - not when the siren sounds. 
 

Big surprise to see the AFL back the decision- they have such a great track record for calling mistakes out fearlessly (irony)

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8 hours ago, bing181 said:

Not sure where I said any team were favorites.

I tend to categorise the teams as ‘contenders’,’serious contenders’ and ‘the rest’, and yes, they can chop and change week to week. That’s footy.

Sadly, Collingwood is currently in my mind a serious contender. I hope I am proven wrong in weeks to come.

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12 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Will sit nicely next to another premiership cup I think

 

That would be taking the micky out of the comp.

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19 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

I always understood that the game stopped when the umpire blows his whistle - not when the siren sounds. 
 

 

So did I. The AFL's explanation seems to overturn that.  But since when has the actual written rules affected AFL decisions on anything.

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the rule is, as i understand it, when one of the now whopping FIVE controlling umpires 'hears' the siren

it's delightfully grey

poor flagmantle

Edited March 25, 2023 by whatwhat say what

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,821]

I guess there can't be a deliberate out of bounds free kick paid until the ball has actually gone out of bounds? The time clock on the live feed showed 00:00 well before the ball went over the boundary line but the siren didn't sound until after. 

Should've been paid as a deliberate out of bounds against Brayshaw with a minute and a half left on the clock. 

Freo should have tried the Lever to Gawn dink kick to Darcy with fifty seconds left instead of kicking to a pack at the top of the square. Stupid decision to burn precious seconds by taking a short kick on the outer side with just thirteen seconds left. 

Kudos to the Roos for not conceding even a point in that last thirty seconds but so many bad decisions from both sides in that last couple of minutes. 

Edited March 26, 2023 by Rab D Nesbitt

[BDA 23,031]

I looked again this morning. The game clock hit 0.00 before the ball crossed the line. The siren sounded just after the game clock hit 0.00 and the ball crossed the line.

if this happened in a granny it would be a travesty. What is the correct ruling here. I think the AFL have backed the umps in but not sure it’s the correct call.

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12 hours ago, daisycutter said:

but if you watch the clock, it went to 00 just as the ball bounced before the boundary line

so it didn't go oob in game time

The clock is not relevant on the Tele.  The game ends when the umpire hears the siren and signals as such.

The umpire and players all heard the siren  a split second before the ball went over the line, and clearly before the Bounday Ump signalled out of bounds. The Field Ump consequently had no option but to end the game with no further decisons needed.

The Boundary Signal initiates the 'deliberate' not just after the ball has been kicked  with intent. Ball has to cross the line to become a deliberate.

Correct decision and kudos to all officials involved.

Pity about the Nuffy commentators - Cam Mooney and Daisy Thomas - feeding into the confusion.

Stick to special comments and gambling promotion boys. It suits you more.

Huge kudos to Clarkson and Lyon though. 

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5 minutes ago, BDA said:

I looked again this morning. The game clock hit 0.00 before the ball crossed the line. The siren sounded just after the game clock hit 0.00 and the ball crossed the line.

if this happened in a granny it would be a travesty. What is the correct ruling here. I think the AFL have backed the umps in but not sure it’s the correct call.

relying on "when i heard the siren" is not very logical

light travels much faster than sound. how anyone sitting at home on tv could tell EXACTLY when the siren went is beyond me

i believe umpires are also mic'ed up for the siren so they in fact probably hear it before the players

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6 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Pity about the Nuffy commentators - Cam Mooney and Daisy Thomas - feeding into the confusion.

The only certain thing about this incident is that the commentators do not know what the rule is and have never read the rules.

[Jaded No More 68,976]

Freo should never have been in that position to begin with. Ffs it was their home game against a two time wooden spooner who literally hasn’t won at that venue in 198 years. 

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9 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Freo should never have been in that position to begin with. Ffs it was their home game against a two time wooden spooner who literally hasn’t won at that venue in 198 years. 

And had an armchair ride from the umps to that point. I’m actually surprised the umpire didn’t find a reason to give that free kick