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TRAINING: Friday 2nd December 2022

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2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Strange that they were looking at Ginger Baker given their surplus of mids.

They lost Dunkley and Hunter, they wouldn’t have looked at Oscar last year, which is the time period we were talking about. 
 

 

30 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Ah I never mentioned Bailey Smith?

The first sentence of your second paragraph essentially confirms what I said he needs to do to get a game 

BTW it's not Hunter's to lose its Hunters to win - he is no walk up start without doing a great deal right and sustaining it 

I know you didn’t mention Bailey Smith, you just said that the bulldog’s wingers were average and you were worried about Hunter as a result. I was pointing out they have close to the best winger in the game, that two excellent mids(including the eventual B&F) and a number of strong role players pushed him out. I was disagreeing with the idea that the dogs had average wings last year. With the exception of Langdon most of the mids you mentioned and definitely the mids you didn’t mention, would’ve been playing on our wing.
We picked Hunter up to play, it’s his spot right now, that’s why he came across and what we pitched him. I’m not a big fan either but he’s an upgrade on what we had. Sure he needs to earn it, every AFL player does, and I hope Woey and Howes go past him, but right now, he’s playing wing round one.

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    Bevo began pushing Hunter out two seasons ago when he plonked him in a forward pocket for much of the year (God knows why)

    He'll be a great winger for us 

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    14 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

    They lost Dunkley and Hunter, they wouldn’t have looked at Oscar last year, which is the time period we were talking about. 
     

     

    I know you didn’t mention Bailey Smith, you just said that the bulldog’s wingers were average and you were worried about Hunter as a result. I was pointing out they have close to the best winger in the game, that two excellent mids(including the eventual B&F) and a number of strong role players pushed him out. I was disagreeing with the idea that the dogs had average wings last year. With the exception of Langdon most of the mids you mentioned and definitely the mids you didn’t mention, would’ve been playing on our wing.
    We picked Hunter up to play, it’s his spot right now, that’s why he came across and what we pitched him. I’m not a big fan either but he’s an upgrade on what we had. Sure he needs to earn it, every AFL player does, and I hope Woey and Howes go past him, but right now, he’s playing wing round one.

    See the problem here?

    Hasn't earned anything yet I'd suggest

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    6 minutes ago, Sydee said:

    See the problem here?

    Hasn't earned anything yet I'd suggest

    I don’t disagree. I do disagree that the bulldogs had “average” wingers last year. That was my point.

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    5 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

    I wonder where Oliver is. Hopefully he is fit. 

    giving summer workshops to umpires on how to cast Brownlow votes. 

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    Seriously look on the club website report on training today, the first pic is a bulked up Sparrow. He has the guns out and looks imposing. I suspect he has spent a bit of time in the gym and will be playing more of a bull in the midfield role

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    7 hours ago, adonski said:

    Loose Arms Jeffer 

    A footballer's version of a Freddie Couples.

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    Anyone know if the Maroochydore Training Camp is dead forever, or is there word it will be back?

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    4 hours ago, adonski said:

    Bevo began pushing Hunter out two seasons ago when he plonked him in a forward pocket for much of the year (God knows why)

    He'll be a great winger for us 

    Hopefully our two ex Bulldogs will relish being away from weirdo Bevo. 

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    9 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    moves like some kind of new age armoured vehicle.

    Phwoar..... what a simile. High art. Beads n flowers, guns n diesel all in one.

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    12 hours ago, Sydee said:

    Maybe - That works if Hunter is playing his role well

    He was dropped from a team that is inferior (IMO) last season even though the Bulldogs had pretty average wingers eg: Roarke Smith, McLean, Williams etc. 

    If he gets really fit and does the team things, he may be a starter otherwise he is heading for Casey IMO

    I am not so negative re Hunter. He had issues with the Coach at WO and feel a fresh start and a will to play top senior footy hopefully will revitalise him.

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    8 hours ago, Older demon said:

    Seriously look on the club website report on training today, the first pic is a bulked up Sparrow. He has the guns out and looks imposing. I suspect he has spent a bit of time in the gym and will be playing more of a bull in the midfield role

    Going to be a hard act to contain,  young Sparrow. Great future at the Dees in my opinion. Did someone say 'Little Ron'?

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    15 minutes ago, David-Demon said:

    I am not so negative re Hunter. He had issues with the Coach at WO and feel a fresh start and a will to play top senior footy hopefully will revitalise him.

    I'm banking on Lachie for a stellar season in the red and blue.  He knows he didn't change Clubs to play at Casey.

    Nothing  but the members stand side wing passing to our forwards snd linking with our backs is acceptable.

    Tough enduring and on the job all day needs to Be his mantra and a finish somewhere in the top 10 of the B and F for Lachie. 

    No Coach either issues Lachie starts with a blank canvas! 

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    16 hours ago, deejammin' said:

    Yikes. Average! Bailey Smith is close to the best winger in the competition at his best, I’d have him on our list in a heartbeat! The dogs had the problem of too many quality mids and had Treloar, Dunkley along with Roarke Smith (who is decent) McLean, Williams all rotating on the wing, that pushed Hunter out, not a lack of quality wingers, an oversupply. 
    The reality is our competition for wing spots is much less than the dogs. Brayshaw and Jordon both did incredible jobs but aren’t natural wingers, Oscar Baker didn’t come on, Woey and Howes were too young last year and will still be developing.

    Hunter should be aiming to walk onto our second wing if he brings quality skills, application and effort. I’d have Woey a sneaky chance to take Hunter’s spot if he wavers as I really rate his improvement and if he continues his trajectory he’ll be pushing hard. But it’s Hunters to lose atm. The question is what we do with Brayshaw, Jordon, Sparrow, Harmes, Bowey, Salem not all of them will play and while a few of them will be walk up starts I think there’ll be some different roles for them this year.

    Nice problems to have😂

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    19 hours ago, Demonland said:

     

    Some really great photos there.  The Bowey kick and Viney mark with the terrace houses in the background are both superb. They capture the exact moment in precise focus.

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    12 hours ago, David-Demon said:

    I am not so negative re Hunter. He had issues with the Coach at WO and feel a fresh start and a will to play top senior footy hopefully will revitalise him.

    Hope you are right - at his best he would make us a better team and make life much easier for our forwards

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    15 minutes ago, Sydee said:

    Hope you are right - at his best he would make us a better team and make life much easier for our forwards

    Hunter is a gut running freak. Suits us defensively as much moving forward. His disposals are not that damaging. Just like Langdon before he came to us, disposal was the problem. Hopefully the coaches can replicate Langdon with Hunter and let him improve this area. 
     

    I think Hunter compliments our game plan, Langdon and will give opposition headaches as they can’t tag both wings. 
     

    Two genuine wingers… Bring it on. 

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    13 hours ago, 58er said:

    I'm banking on Lachie for a stellar season in the red and blue.  He knows he didn't change Clubs to play at Casey.

    Nothing  but the members stand side wing passing to our forwards snd linking with our backs is acceptable.

    Tough enduring and on the job all day needs to Be his mantra and a finish somewhere in the top 10 of the B and F for Lachie. 

    No Coach either issues Lachie starts with a blank canvas! 

    I certainly hope and expect that you are right, but I am sure Luke Dunstan came across with the same thoughts.  

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    4 hours ago, monoccular said:

    I certainly hope and expect that you are right, but I am sure Luke Dunstan came across with the same thoughts.  

    Dunstan isn’t a premium player, BF or filling a need. He was always back up to a top 4 midfield. Hunter will provide a need if he wants it enough. 

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    37 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

    Dunstan isn’t a premium player, BF or filling a need. He was always back up to a top 4 midfield. Hunter will provide a need if he wants it enough. 

    Hunter is no lock. His form has been trending downward, he has behavioural issues, and has lost a step. He gets talked up far too much around here lately. I understand that he would be very handy as a needs fit if he recaptured his better form, but there is little to no evidence of that happening based on 2022. 

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    5 hours ago, Sydee said:

    Hope you are right - at his best he would make us a better team and make life much easier for our forwards

    His ability to kick accurately inside 50 to the advantage of forwards is his biggest asset to us IMO

    Pencil in more goals to Fritsch in particular solely because of this

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    23 minutes ago, ThreeOneSix said:

    Hunter is no lock. His form has been trending downward, he has behavioural issues, and has lost a step. He gets talked up far too much around here lately. I understand that he would be very handy as a needs fit if he recaptured his better form, but there is little to no evidence of that happening based on 2022. 

    Expect Jordon to get better too and not want to lose his spot again. Both will be vying for that role in the 22

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    5 hours ago, monoccular said:

    I certainly hope and expect that you are right, but I am sure Luke Dunstan came across with the same thoughts.  

    Hunter has been a higher calibre player for most of his career, and may be better suited to our side. I highly doubt Dunstan thought he'd slot into a premiership team as a regular with Clarry, Viney and Trac as inside mids

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