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18 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Hope not he is a downgrade on Sam Weideman - can't see why we would even entertain this 

We would entertain this as we've already lost Weideman and Mitch Brown off the forward/second ruck depth chart.

Remember against Adelaide, we had to bring these two blokes in as Gawn, Jackson and T Mac were all unavailable.

If Weid goes out and Schache does not come in, you would think we'll be looking hard at the delisted free agency or state league pools to replace Weid and M Brown.

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    21 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    How is it a downgrade?

    Both similar player really. You could even say Schache has been more productive at AFL level then Weideman.

    Maybe statistically he stacks up similar or slightly better than Weideman - it's a pretty low bar though tbh

    Every time I've watched Schache play my impression is that he is slow and lacks any real intensity

    I was astonished to see he is listed at 201cm as he certainly doesn't play that tall - his inability to physically compete is worse than Sam IMO who has at least shown some level of vigor when thrust into the ruck

    Maybe I'm just a bit underwhelmed generally about what has happened during this trade period - at this point my assessment is that we haven't improved our list nor (apart from Grundy as another ruck to replace LJ) addressed our most pressing needs. Obviously, we still have pick 13 and may deliver a future gun but whoever it is we know will take tile before they make a meaningful contribution 

     

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    16 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    How is it a downgrade?

    Both similar player really. You could even say Schache has been more productive at AFL level then Weideman.

    Agree. 

    Hard to split them, but neither are ever going to be one on one beasts so the fact that Schache is more mobile and athletic means he is can probably be used in more roles (though Weed can ruck) which gives him an edge over Weed.

    And i like the fact Schache is a left footer 

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    11 minutes ago, Sydee said:

    Maybe statistically he stacks up similar or slightly better than Weideman - it's a pretty low bar though tbh

    Every time I've watched Schache play my impression is that he is slow and lacks any real intensity

    I was astonished to see he is listed at 201cm as he certainly doesn't play that tall - his inability to physically compete is worse than Sam IMO who has at least shown some level of vigor when thrust into the ruck

    Maybe I'm just a bit underwhelmed generally about what has happened during this trade period - at this point my assessment is that we haven't improved our list nor (apart from Grundy as another ruck to replace LJ) addressed our most pressing needs. Obviously, we still have pick 13 and may deliver a future gun but whoever it is we know will take tile before they make a meaningful contribution 

     

    We're clearly looking for a KPF and once McKay signed there's not a lot on offer. Weideman will at least play seniors at Essendon and will probably get to play finals again. Schache, well we're dreaming if we think he's the answer but maybe, just maybe he can work his way into the top 5 players at Casey

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    1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

    Geez, this Schache bloke, who has some experience, reminds me of Ross Brewer - a very handy fwd flanker from the annals of old age. He has a similar build, height, mobility and kicks just as well once an opportunity is taken. With a bit of 'mongrel' instilled in his efforts ....

    Brewer was incredibly soft, a turn over merchant, and embodied dark dark ages of the late 70s.

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    4 minutes ago, Wizard of Koz said:

    Brewer was incredibly soft, a turn over merchant, and embodied dark dark ages of the late 70s.

    Tad harsh Koz

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    2 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

    Both filled with National Tiles and Kogan Mobile ads.

    My 4yo walks around the house singing

    🎶 Steel and mesh steel and mesh, when you’re looking for the best, there’s one place to go, that’s Walters with than O! 🎶 

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    34 minutes ago, Sydee said:

    Maybe statistically he stacks up similar or slightly better than Weideman - it's a pretty low bar though tbh

    Every time I've watched Schache play my impression is that he is slow and lacks any real intensity

    I was astonished to see he is listed at 201cm as he certainly doesn't play that tall - his inability to physically compete is worse than Sam IMO who has at least shown some level of vigor when thrust into the ruck

    Maybe I'm just a bit underwhelmed generally about what has happened during this trade period - at this point my assessment is that we haven't improved our list nor (apart from Grundy as another ruck to replace LJ) addressed our most pressing needs. Obviously, we still have pick 13 and may deliver a future gun but whoever it is we know will take tile before they make a meaningful contribution 

     

    I'd be talking to Josh Kennedy about coming out of retirement 

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    15 minutes ago, Wizard of Koz said:

    Brewer was incredibly soft, a turn over merchant, and embodied dark dark ages of the late 70s.

    That’s a bit tough Wiz ! I remember Ross as a very handy marking forward.   As to “soft” ! No one who pulled on a jumper in the 70’s was soft 

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    9 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    That’s a bit tough Wiz ! I remember Ross as a very handy marking forward.   As to “soft” ! No one who pulled on a jumper in the 70’s was soft 

    Nah, he was a spud. Yes agree with violent 70s comparative.

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    34 minutes ago, Wizard of Koz said:

    Nah, he was a spud. Yes agree with violent 70s comparative.

    Spuds don't kick 289 career goals

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    37 minutes ago, Wizard of Koz said:

    Over how many years?

    How many with us?

    How many points?

     

    280 goals in 70s in 140 in 2020s. 

    7 years
    196 goals
    169 points

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    Petty forward, Schach attack locked in a 3 way battle with Turner and Tomlinson for CHB. Let the best man win 

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    14 minutes ago, layzie said:

    Anyone seen Schache do ruck work? 

    He's not great, like a lot of forwards who only do very part time rucking. I think they even used Bruce instead of him a lot of the time, but if he's still probably better than BBB. Still I doubt he'd be coming across as a ruck back up.

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    16 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Petty forward, Schach attack locked in a 3 way battle with Turner and Tomlinson for CHB. Let the best man win 

    Cage fight to the death.

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    Good lord, a soft, disappointing former high draft pick.

    get me a bucket

    Dogs were crying out for decent talls all year and he couldn't fill a gap fwd or back

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    10 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    Good lord, a soft, disappointing former high draft pick.

    get me a bucket

    Dogs were crying out for decent talls all year and he couldn't fill a gap fwd or back

    Similar to weid. Obviously had a line written through him by Bevo just as Goody did with Sam. worth a try IMHO. At worst he ends up playing Casey all year just as Weid would have done 

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    Worth a shot as a virtual freebie but hard to get excited based on what we've seen from his career to this point....a bit like our Wattsy just because you're a top draft pick does not guarantee a great player...

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    The fact that we may need to go for someone like this is making me nauseous.

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