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Horrific! I couldn’t finish reading the article. 

That poor woman, forced to abort her child and psychologically abused by the club. 

this is almost criminal

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    Now we know why Rioli retired and won’t go near the club

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    2 hours ago, Demonland said:

     

    Hi Demonland I cannot access the report but sounds horrendous from all posters.😪😢

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    1 minute ago, DeeZone said:

    Hi Demonland I cannot access the report but sounds horrendous from all posters.😪😢

    Just google ABC Hawthorn are [censored] and you’ll be able to see it

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    3 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

    People need to calm down they are allegations, until proven people need to be careful with their wording.

    This will be huge.

    If true, I would be tearing up Clarkson’s contract at North. 
    Again, if true, we will see if the AFL has the balls to do what needs to be done. 

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    1 hour ago, BW511 said:

    Wonder if North Melbourne knew this was happening?

    This does not paint a great picture for the Hawks as a club and Clarkson as a person, not exactly what you want your marquee signing being associated with

     

    No but you know what, they won't do anything, they'll stand by him because he can coach. 

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    12 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    Now we know why Rioli retired and won’t go near the club

    Was just the tip of the iceberg really. 

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    1 hour ago, layzie said:

    Hopefully Adem Yze isn't implicated in this?

    How would Yze have a say in anything Hawthorn did he was a development coach.

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    What ever happened to the Collingwood report.  Do a report then lift the carpet and sweep the issue under it.  Same will happen here, a few statements for Hawthorn, the AFL and some of the people involved then GF, Trade week and all is forgotten.

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    Roos and lions might be looking for new coaches soon.

    At the very least they will have to stand down until these allegations are followed up.

    However, reading the review suggests that these allegations might have been strongly substantiated or they would not have appeared in the review.

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    These are serious breaches of basic human rights. Don't worry about AFL implications, if some of these accusations are proven to be true, some should be facing imprisonment.

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    Just now, drdrake said:

    What ever happened to the Collingwood report.  Do a report then lift the carpet and sweep the issue under it.  Same will happen here, a few statements for Hawthorn, the AFL and some of the people involved then GF, Trade week and all is forgotten.

    This is 100 times worse.

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    Just now, drdrake said:

    What ever happened to the Collingwood report.  Do a report then lift the carpet and sweep the issue under it.  Same will happen here, a few statements for Hawthorn, the AFL and some of the people involved then GF, Trade week and all is forgotten.

    Not so sure. Eddie left soon after so the media lost its real target.

    Here the he allegations are so much worse involving families and children and the two coaches can expect to be hounded non stop at every interview. If no, then its the media that should be sacked.

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    Need to wait for a response from The Hawks and from the AFL but if proven true I don't see how Clarkson and Fagan can stay in the game. 

     

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    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/hawthorn-afl-respond-to-racism-allegations/101460550

    I won't cut and paste but Luke Hodge said he had never heard allegations like this while he was at the club "to the extent of the terrible stuff in there [the article]".

    Interesting that he said " to the extent of the terrible stuff in there" Not never happened.

    Edited by Mr Steve

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    There is this notion in AFL that the end justifies the means. Just look at the Essendon supplement saga, and the fact Essendon are seriously considering bringing Hird back.

    Clarkson will continue to be revered and untouchable because he won 4 flags. That is all that matters in AFL. It doesn't matter how many lives were ruined in the process. 

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    16 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

    How would Yze have a say in anything Hawthorn did he was a development coach.

    Two coaches and a player development manager are the key figures in this story so it's not the silliest suggestion to say he might be questioned about what he knew about it. 

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    This has to go far beyond footy and clubland.

    This is human rights stuff, as people have suggested. It’s not dissimilar to the MeToo movement. People in power influencing decision making and tearing families apart for gain
     

     

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    2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

    There is this notion in AFL that the end justifies the means. Just look at the Essendon supplement saga, and the fact Essendon are seriously considering bringing Hird back.

    Clarkson will continue to be revered and untouchable because he won 4 flags. That is all that matters in AFL. It doesn't matter how many lives were ruined in the process. 

    It really amazes me how literal some clubs take that saying. Win at all costs, it is seriously just a game for christ's sake. 

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    If this is true (which on the face of it seems likely sadly) Hawthorn sound more like a cult than a footy club. 

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    The AFL must impose very heavy sanctions on those involved. Don't forget this came out of an external review commissioned by Hawthorn, the purpose of which was to ascertain the experiences of indigenous players, current and former, of the club. Three examples of that report have formed the basis of the ABC report. Rioli left the club on bad terms. Does anyone really think this is fabricated? One of the coaches named in the report has history. Remember the punched walls? The behaviour at junior football games? 

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    I'm struggling to process this news

    If the allegations are true, and reading the ABC article it's hard not assume they are, this is beyond comprehension.

    Horrors like this sound like something that has come to light from the 1950s or 60s, and that collectively we all say that's horrific, thank god things have changed. But it is alleged to have happened in the last 15 years. I'm shocked.

    Again, if true, this is on another level all together to the bombers drug scandal. Both scenarios involve a complete breach of trust, but this is something else entirely.

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    Shaun Burgoyne didnt mention anything in his book (found it remaindered for $2)

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