he's not quick, he is not particularly skilful, he doesn't seem to win his own football with any ease, and he can't make a very poor side's best 23 consistently

i wouldn't have thought he'd be high in our priorities

Unless a reject is best 22 like Grundy then I wouldn't go for any of them, just go to the draft.

Some of these guys would be dead set list cloggers. 

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Any targets that we have been seriously linked to or is Grundy it?

2 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Any targets that we have been seriously linked to or is Grundy it?

Nope. Seems the club will have to back in our current list to get the job done, even with less depth than this year.

We'd been speaking to Harry McKay, but he signed a long extension. There's no other decent tall forwards on the market, so we're in a bit of a tricky spot with Ben Brown and TMac battling injury and form leading into retirement over the next 1-2 years.

6 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Nope. Seems the club will have to back in our current list to get the job done, even with less depth than this year.

We'd been speaking to Harry McKay, but he signed a long extension. There's no other decent tall forwards on the market, so we're in a bit of a tricky spot with Ben Brown and TMac battling injury and form leading into retirement over the next 1-2 years.

So that is two years with only two additions of experience to our list:  Dunstan and Grundy.

By the look of it to win the 2023 premiership we are relying on Grundy less Jackson and some 2021 and 2022 draftees who have yet to play a game.

I was hoping we would start to fill that 23=25 yo gap in our list profile and turnover some of the more expensive but no longer likely best 22 players.

There are three delisted players which I would consider having a look at to give them a 2nd chance.

1) Jackson Callow from Hawthorn

2) Lewis Taylor from Sydney

3) Liam Stocker from Carlton

8 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

So that is two years with only two additions of experience to our list:  Dunstan and Grundy.

By the look of it to win the 2023 premiership we are relying on Grundy less Jackson and some 2021 and 2022 draftees who have yet to play a game.

I was hoping we would start to fill that 23=25 yo gap in our list profile and turnover some of the more expensive but no longer likely best 22 players.

I think we are relying on a 2021 injury run, which would go a long way to us winning it again.

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I think we are relying on a 2021 injury run, which would go a long way to us winning it again.

Is that a realistic expectation?

It can come unstuck so easily.

 

12 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

So that is two years with only two additions of experience to our list:  Dunstan and Grundy.

By the look of it to win the 2023 premiership we are relying on Grundy less Jackson and some 2021 and 2022 draftees who have yet to play a game.

I was hoping we would start to fill that 23=25 yo gap in our list profile and turnover some of the more expensive but no longer likely best 22 players.

Agree.

Said yesterday, but other then an upgrade on Jackson I haven't seen any evidence that we've improved our list to the point where I'm confident of a top 4 finish.

Trade period hasn't finished but it's been disappointing so far.

12 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I was hoping we would start to fill that 23=25 yo gap in our list profile and turnover some of the more expensive but no longer likely best 22 players.

Do we have anyone to who fits that category? Harmes and Gus are best 22 and I’m sure we investigated both going.

Bedford and Hunt, by choice or otherwise are doing exactly that.

Tomlinson is the obvious one and we’re clearly trying.

T Mc and Ben Brown I doubt we could move without significant dumping. Probably take 2nd round picks and/or paying significant amounts of their wages to find them new homes. Both still arguably best 22. 

14 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Is that a realistic expectation?

It can come unstuck so easily.

 

But it's probably the best thing we need.

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Do we have anyone to who fits that category? Harmes and Gus are best 22 and I’m sure we investigated both going.

Bedford and Hunt, by choice or otherwise are doing exactly that.

Tomlinson is the obvious one and we’re clearly trying.

T Mc and Ben Brown I doubt we could move without significant dumping. Probably take 2nd round picks and/or paying significant amounts of their wages to find them new homes. Both still arguably best 22. 

Players with a few years to run on their contracts: TMc, Brown who struggle to get on the park for chunks of the year; Tomlinson, Hibberd and Melksham are depth.

I don't really have a problem with keeping them but if we don't bring in more experience that can play each week then we are relying on kids to replace them.

But as they say:  the night is still young!  Trade week has a way to go.

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Agree.

Said yesterday, but other then an upgrade on Jackson I haven't seen any evidence that we've improved our list to the point where I'm confident of a top 4 finish.

Trade period hasn't finished but it's been disappointing so far.

Hopefully we are heavily into someone good for next year and if we also end up with a good draft haul next year as well, then things could get very exciting.

If we happen to draft well, with our likely 2 picks this year, it can also be a big bonus to our off season.

We are also adding an AA Ruckman this trade period.

Where is 'goodwindees' when you need him!🙂

Im surprised about the McMahon delisting, wouldnt mind picking him up at least as a Rookie and see if we can develop him as a Key Fwd

17 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Hopefully we are heavily into someone good for next year and if we also end up with a good draft haul next year as well, then things could get very exciting.

If we happen to draft well, with our likely 2 picks this year, it can also be a big bonus to our off season.

We are also adding an AA Ruckman this trade period.

Not entirely sure it was a first priority to be honest.

Far more bigger concerns around certain positions on the ground.

On 9/29/2022 at 9:54 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

We're trying to improve our list not make it worse.

Nelson to put it kindly, is a 🥔

@Lord Nevget your OneNote out!

Nil players for me !!  
Waiting on possible Paddy Dow delisting 🧐

8 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Nil players for me !!  
Waiting on possible Paddy Dow delisting 🧐

contracted

2 hours ago, Turner said:

contracted

He is contracted, but Carlton have told him they are happy for him to explore his options.

Good player, but is a midfielder and that's it.  Which makes it hard to break into our side.

 

Top three I think we should look at, purely as depth players:

1 - Cullum Brown (Pies)

2 - Tom Phillips (Hawks)

3 - Quinton Narkle (Geel)

Purely depth for cheap as chips.

Also if Tommo did leave, call me crazy which most of you will but only for cover..................O-Mac???

@Travy14Yes three delisted players are all ok for depth.  
 

omcd !!!  Travy14. You are crazy !!! 🤣 but aren’t all Dees supporters 

9 hours ago, Travy14 said:

Top three I think we should look at, purely as depth players:

1 - Cullum Brown (Pies)

2 - Tom Phillips (Hawks)

3 - Quinton Narkle (Geel)

Purely depth for cheap as chips.

Also if Tommo did leave, call me crazy which most of you will but only for cover..................O-Mac???

you CRAZY