Phantom Drafts Thread 2022

[Sydee 4,529]

28 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I'm sticking with the 3 options of either Matthew Jefferson, Henry Hustwaite or Mattaes Phillipou as my predictions for pick 13# in the 2022 AFL National Draft for the Demons.

We desperately need more tall players after losing Mitch Brown and Majak Daw.

Hustwaite reminds me a little of Pendlebury

[Supreme_Demon 3,898]

Here's a phantom draft (the first 20 picks) on Zero Hangar

2022 AFL mock Draft: Picks 1-20 (first edition)

They predict us taking Mattaes Phillipou as well.

[spirit of norm smith 16,581]

2 hours ago, Nascent said:

I'm putting together a phantom and will post it in the next week or so. Won't be accurate in the slightest and live trading has made it impossible to predict. Still a fun exercise though.

I agree it all moves around.  All you can do is have it based on “the day” you go through the process. 

Will be interested in your thoughts on Harvey Gallagher from the Bendigo pioneers. If we go tall for our pick 13, we might look at a quicker running midfielder type.  He was very impressive in the Vic country final game v Vic metro. Standout runner from half back. Whilst he’s an overage player, he had the pace and skills demanded highly in todays game.  He went to the state combine and was a top performer across agility and 2km time trial.  He’s not an Ashcroft or Hollands, but a very handy late draft pick imv. 

[layzie 33,990]

Has us getting Phillipou, not bad!

[Supreme_Demon 3,898]

Here's the top 30 player power rankings according to 'The Inner Sanctum' for the 2022 AFL National Draft.

AFL Draft 2022: Top 30 Power Rankings – October

[MrFreeze 1,995]

Phillipou or Jefferson look like likely pick ups at 13. Phillipou as a 192 forward who's good at ground level seems a good partner for Fritsch.

And Jefferson looks the next best forward as well but not necessarily an outstanding prospect.

[Grouse 192]

Phillipou is from Adelaide, Jefferson Melbourne. I wonder if that will play any part in who we select. 

[Whispering_Jack 30,603]

13 hours ago, Grouse said:

Phillipou is from Adelaide, Jefferson Melbourne. I wonder if that will play any part in who we select. 

Whichever player the recruiters consider is the best available.

[Demonland 73,139]

23 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Here's a phantom draft (the first 20 picks) on Zero Hangar

2022 AFL mock Draft: Picks 1-20 (first edition)

They predict us taking Mattaes Phillipou as well.

Pick 14 - Melbourne: Mattaes Phillipou

Position: Midfielder/Forward
Height: 192cm
Weight: 83kg
Clubs: PHOS/Henly HS, Woodville-West Torrens

A tantalising prospect to say the least, with Phillipou looking to rival the likes of Sheezel as one of the most mercurial players in his class.

The leading South Australian for 2022, Phillipou frames as a bullish midfield-forward option that can win his own ball and impact the scoreboard.

The Demons are likely to be tempted by the Isaac Heeney-like talent, especially considering their own attacking livewire in Kysaiah Pickett is seen as no certainty to remain in red and blue past 2023.

Standing at 192cm tall, it's Phillipou's stunning ground-ball ability that will catch opponents by surprise, while the teenager is also a fierce competitor in the air.

[Demonland 73,139]

The Inner Sanctum’s First Round AFL Phantom Draft 2022

1. Aaron Cadman – GWS
2. Will Ashcroft – Brisbane (matched F/S bid)
3. Harry Sheezel – North Melbourne
4. George Wardlaw – North Melbourne
5. Elijah Tsatas – Essendon
6. Bailey Humphrey – Gold Coast
7. Jhye Clark – Hawthorn
8. Cam Mackenzie – Geelong
9. Rueben Ginbey – West Coast
10. Mattaes Phillipou – St Kilda
11. Jedd Busslinger – Carlton
12. Oliver Hollands – Western Bulldogs
13. Elijah Hewett – West Coast
14. Matthew Jefferson – Melbourne
15. Josh Weddle – Sydney
16. Henry Hustwaite – GWS
17. Lewis Hayes – Collingwood
18. Lachlan Cowan – Sydney
19. Jacob Konstanty – GWS

“14. Matthew Jefferson

Vic Metro’s best tall forward was Jefferson this year. He’s springy and quick off the mark akin to Ollie Henry, but has genuine key position height. The Dees have lost Sam Weideman and struggled without Tom McDonald in 2022 – Jefferson could be the future focal point for their forward line.”

[durango 2,023]

3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Pick 14 - Melbourne: Mattaes Phillipou

Position: Midfielder/Forward
Height: 192cm
Weight: 83kg
Clubs: PHOS/Henly HS, Woodville-West Torrens

A tantalising prospect to say the least, with Phillipou looking to rival the likes of Sheezel as one of the most mercurial players in his class.

The leading South Australian for 2022, Phillipou frames as a bullish midfield-forward option that can win his own ball and impact the scoreboard.

The Demons are likely to be tempted by the Isaac Heeney-like talent, especially considering their own attacking livewire in Kysaiah Pickett is seen as no certainty to remain in red and blue past 2023.

Standing at 192cm tall, it's Phillipou's stunning ground-ball ability that will catch opponents by surprise, while the teenager is also a fierce competitor in the air.

This is one area where we have little to no cover the bigger midfielder in the 192+ range since Clayton is the tallest at 187cm and resting on the HF line they create matchup problems for the opposition where small HB get out marked and tall HB don't have the agility.

[spirit of norm smith 16,581]

51 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Pick 14 - Melbourne: Mattaes Phillipou

Position: Midfielder/Forward
Height: 192cm
Weight: 83kg
Clubs: PHOS/Henly HS, Woodville-West Torrens

A tantalising prospect to say the least, with Phillipou looking to rival the likes of Sheezel as one of the most mercurial players in his class.

The leading South Australian for 2022, Phillipou frames as a bullish midfield-forward option that can win his own ball and impact the scoreboard.

The Demons are likely to be tempted by the Isaac Heeney-like talent, especially considering their own attacking livewire in Kysaiah Pickett is seen as no certainty to remain in red and blue past 2023.

Standing at 192cm tall, it's Phillipou's stunning ground-ball ability that will catch opponents by surprise, while the teenager is also a fierce competitor in the air.

Phillipou would be an amazing pick. He’s got the combination of a midfielder with an agile athletic taller forward type. His marking and ground cover is A grade. Package that with the left foot style and he’d be a great addition. The knockers might say he’s from Adelaide and there’s to go home factor, but it wouldn’t think that would deter JT from picking him if available.  

[Grouse 192]

'Proving far too good for the U18 competition, Mattaes managed to play three reserves games, with his three goal and 13 disposal effort against Sturt in round 17 particularly noteworthy.' 

He's bottom age and he kicked 3 against grown men. Sounds like he's good to go. And they're saying he has one of the highest upsides in the draft. 

[Matt 424]

The Inner Sanctum’s First Round AFL Phantom Draft 2022

7. Jhye Clark – Hawthorn

8. Cam Mackenzie – Geelong

I actually hope Jhye Clark doesn't get to Geelong, so far this offseason, they've got exactly what they wanted

Edited October 15, 2022 by Matt

[Colm 2,183]

8 hours ago, Matt said:

The Inner Sanctum’s First Round AFL Phantom Draft 2022

7. Jhye Clark – Hawthorn

8. Cam Mackenzie – Geelong

I actually hope Jhye Clark doesn't get to Geelong, so far this offseason, they've got exactly what they wanted

Yes but know their luck he will request to be trade there in 2 years and they will end up with 2 top 10 picks from this draft. 

[Redleg 41,413]

9 hours ago, Matt said:

The Inner Sanctum’s First Round AFL Phantom Draft 2022

7. Jhye Clark – Hawthorn

8. Cam Mackenzie – Geelong

I actually hope Jhye Clark doesn't get to Geelong, so far this offseason, they've got exactly what they wanted

What’s the difference, they would get him a couple of years later, due to homesickness. Hawthorn is a long way away from Geelong. 

[The Jackson FIX 3,210]

11 hours ago, Matt said:

The Inner Sanctum’s First Round AFL Phantom Draft 2022

7. Jhye Clark – Hawthorn

8. Cam Mackenzie – Geelong

I actually hope Jhye Clark doesn't get to Geelong, so far this offseason, they've got exactly what they wanted

Just as long as he doesn’t end up there in 12 months for a future 4th rounder

[ChaserJ 5,157]

Not a phantom draft, but a pretty handy resource if you’re not across all of the prospects in the pool.

The podcast also has some discussion on 2023’s draft pool and goes over the five standouts for next year (no surprise that Harley Reid gets a guernsey).

AFL Draft 2022: Profiles, stats and latest intel on more than 100 top prospects

[fr_ap 2,529]

I might be alone but I have doubts on Phillippou. I don't trust rangy draft picks and have seen plenty fail to make the step up. Similiar to key forwards who are drafted in the top 10, it's hard to tell whether their height/reach physical development is their advantage over their peers (Weideman, Schache, many others), or whether it's actually football ability. Bontempelli the most obvious outlier that I can remember - it wasn't until he was in the system that he turned into an absolute unit and competitive beast. 

I think we're a young dynamic mid short from a list perspective and would be looking at Hollands / Brayden George etc instead 

Seems common knowledge that Pickett is basically gone for 2024 already, which is incredibly depressing 

[Demonstone 22,806]

15 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Seems common knowledge that Pickett is basically gone for 2024 already

Really?  Is there any other information other than Kane Cornes' self-confessed wild speculation?

[durango 2,023]

19 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

I might be alone but I have doubts on Phillippou. I don't trust rangy draft picks and have seen plenty fail to make the step up. Similiar to key forwards who are drafted in the top 10, it's hard to tell whether their height/reach physical development is their advantage over their peers (Weideman, Schache, many others), or whether it's actually football ability. Bontempelli the most obvious outlier that I can remember - it wasn't until he was in the system that he turned into an absolute unit and competitive beast. 

I think we're a young dynamic mid short from a list perspective and would be looking at Hollands / Brayden George etc instead 

Seems common knowledge that Pickett is basically gone for 2024 already, which is incredibly depressing 

Josh Kennedy, Patrick Cripps and Jake Stringer says hi.

[buck_nekkid 6,046]

16 minutes ago, durango said:

Josh Kennedy, Patrick Cripps and Jake Stringer says hi.

Not sure Jake could say such a big word, let alone spell it….

[fr_ap 2,529]

1 hour ago, durango said:

Josh Kennedy, Patrick Cripps and Jake Stringer says hi.

None of them rangy at all in their youth 

[Whispering_Jack 30,603]

eth-dogs 2022 phantom draft (Big footy)

First Round:

Pick 1, Greater Western Sydney: Aaron Cadman (Greater Western Victoria Rebels, 194/88, Key Forward)

Pick 2, Brisbane: Will Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons, 182/82, Inside Midfielder) Matching North Melbourne’s bid.

Pick 3, North Melbourne: Harry Sheezel (SD, 184/77, Forward/Midfielder)

Pick 4, North Melbourne: Elijah Tsatas (Oakleigh Chargers, 187/80, Balanced Midfielder)

Pick 5, Essendon: George Wardlaw (OC, 182/82, IM)

Pick 6, Gold Coast: Bailey Humphrey (Gippsland Power, 186/86 F/M)

Pick 7, Hawthorn: Jhye Clark (Geelong Falcons, 181/77, IM)

Pick 8, Geelong: Mattaes Phillipou (Woodville-West Torrens Eagles, 192/83, M/F)

Pick 9, West Coast: Reuben Ginbey (East Perth, 188/81, Midfielder/Defender)

Pick 10, St. Kilda: Cameron Mackenzie (SD, 187/80, IM)

Pick 11, Carlton: Olli Hotton (SD, 181/79, F/M)

Pick 12, Western Bulldogs: Jed Busslinger (EP, 196/82, Key Defender)

Pick 13, West Coast: Elijah Hewett (Swan Districts, 185/84, IM)

Pick 14, Melbourne: Harry Barnett (West Adelaide, 202/93, Ruck)

Pick 15, Sydney: Jacob Konstanty (GP, 176/70, Small Forward)

Pick 16, Essendon (live trade of pick 22 and Essendon F2 for pick 16): Oliver Hollands (Murray Bushrangers, 184/71, IM)

Pick 17, Collingwood: Matthew Jefferson (OC, 194/76, KF)

Pick 18, Sydney: Brayden George (MB, 185/87, Medium Forward)

Pick 19, Greater Western Sydney: Charlie Clarke (SD, 182/75, SF)

Second Round:

Pick 20, Greater Western Sydney: Mitchell Szybkowski (Dandenong Stingrays, 186/84, IM)

Pick 21, West Coast: Sam Gilbey (Claremont, 188/71, Medium Defender)

Pick 22, Western Bulldogs: Josh Weddle (OC, 193/82, Medium Defender)

Pick 23, Greater Western Sydney (live trade): Lachlan Cowan (Tasmania Devils, 188/81, MD)

Pick 24, Brisbane: Jaspa Fletcher (Sherwood, 184/73 Outside Midfielder). Matching Adelaide’s bid.

Pick 25, Adelaide: Isaac Keeler (North Adelaide, 197/83, KF/R)

Pick 26, Essendon: Alwyn Davey jr (Oakleigh, 180/74, SF/M)
Matching Hawthorn’s bid

Pick 27, Hawthorn: Darcy Jones (SwD, 175/63, SF)

Pick 28, Collingwood: Henry Hustwaite (DS, 194/84, KD)

Pick 29, West Coast: Ed Allen (Claremont, 194/82, Utility)

Pick 30, Collingwood: Lewis Hayes (Eastern Ranges, 197/81, KD)

Pick 31, St. Kilda: Jakob Ryan (Glenelg, 189/77, MD)

Pick 32, Carlton: Koby Burgiel (GP, 183/77, Half Back)

Pick 33, Fremantle: Nick Sadler (Sturt, 179/72, OM)

Pick 34, Greater Western Sydney: Noah Long (Bendigo Pioneers, 178/74, SF/M)

Pick 35, St. Kilda: Max Gruzewski (OC, 192/84, Utility)

Pick 36, Port Adelaide: Adam D'Aloia (WWT, 186/86, IM)

Pick 37, Melbourne: James Van Es (GWV, 196/97, KD)

[Demonstone 22,806]

Taking a ruck as early as pick 13 would surprise me as we already have two automatic selections for that position in Gawn and Grundy. 

I think we'd be more likely to pick up a developing big man at 37 or (even more likely) in the Rookie Draft.

A tall forward or a speedy mid/HB with good disposal would be more of a need with our first pick IMO.