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Our biggest issue is that our pressure rating has dropped from near 1st to near last.

 

Desire, arousal levels and Energy will all return this Friday night at our Home away from Home.

Back on the big stage in front of a national audience, Friday Night Footy the bright lights of Optus stadium. 🏟

Image the kick our boys will get out of being back at Joondalup in and around the resort might even have a bonfire with marshmallows a little recalibration to discuss our plan of assault on the competition.

Like we did during our last pre season at Greg Stafford's Farm.

32 minutes ago, Vipercrunch said:

A lot of people are saying we have been worked out.  If that’s the case, why in all our losses have we been up by 3-5 goals before being over run?  Are opposition coaches only working us out during the games?

They have the magic juice at half time and form incredible plans to counteract our awesomeness.

 
1 minute ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Desire, arousal levels and Energy will all return this Friday night at our Home away from Home.

Back on the big stage in front of a national audience, Friday Night Footy the bright lights of Optus stadium. 🏟

Image the kick our boys will get out of being back at Joondalup in and around the resort might even have a bonfire with marshmallows a little recalibration to discuss our plan of assault on the competition.

Like we did during our last pre season at Greg Stafford's Farm.

Can we get Birds of Tokyo to play “lanterns” at half time to bring back the GF feeling and create the Demon renaissance 🤣

Im sure the club can afford it.😂👌

The Wetcoke supporters might even dust off their GF Demons scarfs and support us on the night.

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I said this in July and last night proved I was 100% correct. Need fresh ideas and changes in the assistants because Goody is too stubborn to adapt.

Our inability to run out games against good opposition is alarming. Last season we were floating on air in last quarters, this season we look shot. I reiterate against GOOD opposition - we look 2020 like, as soon as pressure is heaped on us our lack of skill to execute is exposed. We get luxuries against average teams which make us look a million bucks but last night was the blue print for how to rattle us. Pressure, harass, and watch us turn it over - don't give us time to set up going back there other way and punish our turnovers. Game over

21 minutes ago, inanunda said:

I said this in July and last night proved I was 100% correct. Need fresh ideas and changes in the assistants because Goody is too stubborn to adapt.

100% correct, two other pionts 

1 We have used 1 new player this year

2 Goody Refuses to play guys on form at Casey, opting for the usuals that have little to no form

Edited by picket fence

 

Our core midfielders aren't consistently skilful enough to carry guys like Hunt, ANB & Sparrow on the flanks who are all reasonably poor decision makers & kicks

Addressing this will be just as significant as going after a messiah key forward to address our efficiency issues

On 7/24/2022 at 3:53 PM, Demonised said:

Injuries.

Yep we have struggled since TMac went down. His role is a big part of the structure. He takes a quality tall away from other players 


27 minutes ago, picket fence said:

100% correct, two other pionts 

1 We have used 1 new player this year

2 Goody Refuses to play guys on form at Casey, opting for the usuals that have little to no form

Agree Picket, Luke Dunstan and one of Chandler / Bedford / Van Rooyen should have played last night. Reward for effort and drop those NQR players. Spargs, Milkshake and ANB skating on thin ice.

I think our biggest problem is that Ben Brown isn’t a good enough number 1 forward option. He doesn’t take enough contested marks and is a liability defensively and on the ground ball. 

47 minutes ago, adonski said:

Our core midfielders aren't consistently skilful enough to carry guys like Hunt, ANB & Sparrow on the flanks who are all reasonably poor decision makers & kicks

Addressing this will be just as significant as going after a messiah key forward to address our efficiency issues

Spot on

Midfield skills go to water under pressure, less of an issue when we're dominating pressure 

6 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I think our biggest problem is that Ben Brown isn’t a good enough number 1 forward option. He doesn’t take enough contested marks and is a liability defensively and on the ground ball. 

Yep

He's a B2

Sharpness. The heart and effort is there but we're just not as fresh or polished as we were this time last year. Maybe the contested game plan is too taxing, I don't know tbh


Not enough tackling and not enough hard ones.

A forward line totally mia....melksham...kozzie.....bbb and Dogga.

2 goals from that⁸ùùuuu

lot and limited pressure on opposition.

Not running out quarters. Have no idea why maybe fitness, maybe concentration maybe the pressure from the other team.  

Our forward inside 50 pressure is very poor...! 

Tackles

Melbourne 13

Swans 25

We win this stat. We win the game...!

 

 

On 7/24/2022 at 5:48 PM, inanunda said:

Lack of creativity and adaptability from out coaching group.  Here me out.

I look at teams like Geelong and Sydney who have the knack of changing the narrative each week depending on the opponent. The Blicavs move onto Oliver/Petracca was a brilliant way of negating the best one-two punch in the league.  Longmire always seems to shift they way they play every week depending on the need. 

We don't!

We play the same way every week.  Kick out to the same side every week.  Refuse to widen the ground by switching every week.  Kick down the line every week. Bomb it high into the forward line every week. When will we tag someone? Where is out creativity?

Any chance we could bring in a taller option like VanRooyan just to shake it up? Even playing Petty at CHF to change up the game.  Where has our switching it to Langdon on the wing gone?  What about Pickett one out in the 50? We never seem to try anything different?

Last night with some of the kick outs we went down the middle a few rimes which rarely worked.

Also going forward into the pocket faŕ too any times. It ends up out or something bounce and an easy clearance for the opposition. 

There is no one thing unfortunately that will correct our current situation. yes we lack defensive pressure, we are too slow in moving the ball into our forward line at times giving the opposition lots of time to setup. We are crowding our forwards, how many times have you seen Ben Brown one on one with an opposition player, he is constantly being crowded by our own players and opposition players, he often gets his hands to it but only occasionally is able to clutch it. when the ball goes to ground our small forwards are just in the wrong spot to apply pressure consistently.  We do not use the width of the ground once we get near the wing, we go straight down the line, in a predictable manner. our coverage of opposition teams that run and handpass and run to accept the ball back again always kills us as this often results in them getting an easy forward 50 entry. Some of our players just do not chase. often see players start to trot after a player in the expectation they are going to kick it, but  then realise they are going for a run before they actually start to really try to chase. opposition players on the boundary line taking a shot from goal run inboard and open up the angle because no one is providing that defensive presence or pressure 10meters in from the line to stop or deter that.  our fitness, we are not able to run out 4 quarters of football anymore. we have lost most of our games after leading and sometime leading well. free kicks and 50 meter penalties certainly dont help either.

 

On the positive side we still have a very good team, if they can show up on the day and play their best football they will beat any team in the competition. We only have to win 3 games to win the premiership, and while they are top teams i dont think any of them are unbeatable by the Demons.


Not being able to run out games. It's been a clear pattern since R10.

Our 5 last quarters vs the other top 4 sides:

6.10.46 vs 20.13.133

In those 5 quarters we have lost by a total of 14.3.87.

We are lambs to the slaughter unless we've got at least a 5-6 goal lead halfway through the 3rd. But if it's close, it just seems impossible for us to win and I dont know how we can turn in around in 3 games.

I don’t think the running out of games is an issue, more that we are putting ourselves in losing positions because we can’t execute skills. We had plenty of the ball and plenty of shots at goal (19-21 and we had at least 3-4 that didn’t even register)

The gap between individuals best and worst is stark for every single player except Clayton and possibly Petty now.

Sydney won because they were able to execute their skills at a much higher level than us.

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

I think our biggest problem is that Ben Brown isn’t a good enough number 1 forward option. He doesn’t take enough contested marks and is a liability defensively and on the ground ball. 

No tall forward is as effective when they are double teamed. Ben has been getting TMacs opponents as well as his own. 

 

Poor second half’s against quality opposition. In our 7 losses we average 24 points per second half’s against their 52 points. Our average losing margin is 20 points. 
Third quarter averages are 15.6 points for and 24.7 against.
Our last quarters have been shocking averaging with us averaging 8.4 points to theirs 27.3 points. 
We fold easily in second half’s under serious opposition pressure. I doubt that we are unfit. The headspace to finish off games is not right.

Edited by John Crow Batty

3 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

Poor second half’s against quality opposition. In our 7 losses we average 24 points per second half’s against their 52 points. Our average losing margin is 20 points. 
Third quarter averages are 15.6 points for and 24.7 against.
Our last quarters have been shocking averaging with us averaging 8.4 points to theirs 27.3 points. 
We fold easily in second half’s under serious opposition pressure. I doubt that we are unfit. The headspace to finish off games is not right.

Last year we always came storming home.


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