CASEY: Rd 18 vs Footscray

[Demon Disciple 12,122]

Don’t know what else Chandler needs to do to force his way into the side. all our smalls need to have big games tonight, otherwise he should be straight in.

[Pates 9,660]

Well done Chandler, sub next week or comes in surely. 

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Not sure Dunstan has what it takes but Bowie want his spot back.  Baker and Chandler both looking very good.

[adonski 12,109]

How'd Howes go?

[DeeZee 7,392]

Chandler and Bowey were very good today.

McVee looks a classy prospect 

[kev martin 9,888]

1 minute ago, adonski said:

How'd Howes go?

Played on the wing, in and out of the game.

[Diamond_Jim 12,578]

Compare Baker with Langdon

Baker amasses possessions but his disposal and positioning rarely troubles the opposition

[Mr Steve 3,820]

15 - Zip.

[KC from Casey 7,064]

Full Time Casey make it 15 in a row.

CASEY DEMONS 0.3.3 5.7.37 7.9.51 9.12.66

FOOTSCRAY VFL 1.2.8 3.6.24 6.6.42 6.7.43

Goals 

Casey Demons Chandler 4 Grey Laurie Moniz-Wakefield Valentine Van Rooyen

Footscray VFL Darcy Jones Martin O’Sullivan Raak Vandermeer 

Best 

Casey Demons Baker Chandler Bowey Hunt Munro Ellison Van Rooyen

Footscray VFL Hunter Martin McLean Garner O’Sullivan Butler

Statistics 

Oskar Baker 1 behind 29 kicks 4 handballs 33 disposals 8 marks 121 dream team points
Riley Baldi 5 kicks 4 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 34 dream team points
Jack Bell 4 kicks 7 handballs 11 disposals 1 mark tackle 16 hit outs 51 dream team points
Jake Bowey 19 kicks 1 handballs 20 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 89 dream team points
Mitch Brown 1 behind 12 kicks 3 handballs 15 disposals 7 marks 1 tackle 66 dream team points
Matt Buntine 15 kicks 5 handballs 20 disposals 10 marks 2 tackles 1 hit out 92 dream team points
Kade Chandler 4 goals 11 kicks 4 handballs 15 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 72 dream team points
Luke Dunstan 1 behind 12 kicks 7 handballs 19 disposals 3 marks 9 tackles 92 dream team points
Corey Ellison 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 38 dream team points
George Grey 1 goal 4 kicks 2 handballs 6 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 29 dream team points
Blake Howes 11 kicks 9 handballs 20 disposals 6 marks 1 tackles 79 dream team points
Jayden Hunt 7 kicks 7 handballs 14 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 42 dream team points
Bailey Laurie 1 goal 5 kicks 6 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 5 tackles 53 dream team points
Judd McVee 7 kicks 4 handballs 11 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 47 dream team points
Bryce Milford 3 kicks 4 handballs 7 disposals 2 marks 23 dream team points
Andy Moniz-Wakefield 1 goal 4 kicks 3 handballs 7 disposals 1 mark 3 tackles 33 dream team points
James Munro 2 behinds 6 kicks 8 handballs 14 disposals 1 mark 11 tackles 85 dream team points
Aidan Quigley 5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 1 marks 7 tackles 49 dream team points
Fraser Rosman 1 kick 1 handballs 2 disposals 1 mark 8 dream team points [injured]
Daniel Turner 7 kicks 7 disposals 1 mark 5 tackles 46 dream team points
Ryan Valentine 1 goal 7 kicks 6 handballs 13 disposals 3 marks 1 tackles 2 hit outs 53 dream team points
Jacob Van Rooyen 1 goal 1 behinds 5 kicks 7 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 2 hit outs 58 dream team points
Taj Woewodin 7 kicks 6 handballs 13 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 53 dream team points

[Pates 9,660]

Stupid question but how can it possibly be called VFL. Half the teams are in NSW and QLD. Surely something like ECFL (East Coast Football League) would make sense. 

Anyway really tough solid win in difficult conditions today, Bowser stood out and Chandler with 4 goals I’m not sure what else he has to do to get a gig in the seniors. Has to play sub next week surely, tough to dislodge Spargoat or Nibbler but he’s doing his part. 

[waynewussell 5,738]

Baker is a wet track bully! Bowey did his chances of a recall no harm. Hunt's burst plays were excellent. Dunstan keeps accumulating. Chandler has something worth investing in. 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

11 minutes ago, adonski said:

How'd Howes go?

Not prolific but did some good things in the first half.  Tackles and hunts well.  Has a bit of range and toe about him.  Seems to have a bit of class & good awareness

Edited July 23, 2022 by Demon Dynasty

[mo64 5,874]

1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Compare Baker with Langdon

Baker amasses possessions but his disposal and positioning rarely troubles the opposition

Totally agree. He's a great Fantasy footballer because he seagulls for cheap kicks. Hate having the ball in his hands, because he invariably makes a poor decision. He burnt JVR in the 2nd quarter by going long to the goal square with JVR on his own in the pocket. Signalled for a slow play in the last qtr, and kicked it to a Dogs player with no Casey player in sight. He's a good VFL player, and that's his level.

[kev martin 9,888]

Interesting that they played Baker off half-back, difficult to know if he was accountable for his opponent. 

Hunt was not seen in that last quarter. Perhaps off to Marvel!

Bowey full of class.

Chandler got shut down in the second half, though showed up for the last goal. Very nice finishes.

Now for the big show.

This game should have been the curtain raiser?

 

[Sydney_Demon 1,175]

27 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

It's a development league remember. Winning is nice but not that important

So what don't you like about the development component? It seems that players who come up to replace injured/dropped Melbourne players step right into the Melbourne game plan. Isn't that what's required? Melbourne have a deliberate polocy of not rotating players in and out of the senior side so the fact that there haven't been players coming through means absolutely nothing.

26 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

We have in the seniors though hbt. And its predictability is becoming seemingly easier to counter.

Yes, it's horrible that we are 2nd with a 13-4 record and a percentage of 132.6%. Clearly both Melbourne & Casey are a long way off this year.

16 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Compare Baker with Langdon

Baker amasses possessions but his disposal and positioning rarely troubles the opposition

Yes, the fact that he had only 33 possessions & 8 marks today means his positioning was terrible. It's really easy to take 8 marks when you're where the ball isn't. Casey's last line defence was terrific today and no doubt Baker was playing the role he was asked to. I agree with you about his disposal effeciency but the rest is BS. Did you watch today's game?

12 minutes ago, Pates said:

Stupid question but how can it possibly be called VFL. Half the teams are in NSW and QLD. Surely something like ECFL (East Coast Football League) would make sense. 

Yes, almost exactly half. 2 NSW teams, 3 Queensland teams, 16 Victorian. 

9 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Totally agree. He's a great Fantasy footballer because he seagulls for cheap kicks. Hate having the ball in his hands, because he invariably makes a poor decision. He burnt JVR in the 2nd quarter by going long to the goal square with JVR on his own in the pocket. Signalled for a slow play in the last qtr, and kicked it to a Dogs player with no Casey player in sight. He's a good VFL player, and that's his level.

BS. I'm happy to concede Baker's disposal isn't always great. And well done to highlight 2 disposal errors out of his total of 33. What did you think of the other 31 and his 8 marks? I hate it when posters make stuff up about seagulling for cheap kicks (what's that in English?). He was an important player today and his pace off the mark is crucial in providing defensive cover.

[chook fowler 19,458]

2 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

So what don't you like about the development component? It seems that players who come up to replace injured/dropped Melbourne players step right into the Melbourne game plan. Isn't that what's required? Melbourne have a deliberate polocy of not rotating players in and out of the senior side so the fact that there haven't been players coming through means absolutely nothing.

Yes, it's horrible that we are 2nd with a 13-4 record and a percentage of 132.6%. Clearly both Melbourne & Casey are a long way off this year.

Yes, the fact that he had only 33 possessions & 8 marks today means his positioning was terrible. It's really easy to take 8 marks when you're where the ball isn't. Casey's last line defence was terrific today and no doubt Baker was playing the role he was asked to. I agree with you about his disposal effeciency but the rest is BS. Did you watch today's game?

Yes, almost exactly half. 2 NSW teams, 3 Queensland teams, 16 Victorian. 

BS. I'm happy to concede Baker's disposal isn't always great. And well done to highlight 2 disposal errors out of his total of 33. What did you think of the other 31 and his 8 marks? I hate it when posters make stuff up about seagulling for cheap kicks (what's that in English?). He was an important player today and his pace off the mark is crucial in providing defensive cover.

Agree. Baker deserves much more respect than he gets here.

[cantstandyasam 700]

36 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Totally agree. He's a great Fantasy footballer because he seagulls for cheap kicks. Hate having the ball in his hands, because he invariably makes a poor decision. He burnt JVR in the 2nd quarter by going long to the goal square with JVR on his own in the pocket. Signalled for a slow play in the last qtr, and kicked it to a Dogs player with no Casey player in sight. He's a good VFL player, and that's his level.

He is a delist for mine.

[mo64 5,874]

14 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

So what don't you like about the development component? It seems that players who come up to replace injured/dropped Melbourne players step right into the Melbourne game plan. Isn't that what's required? Melbourne have a deliberate polocy of not rotating players in and out of the senior side so the fact that there haven't been players coming through means absolutely nothing.

Yes, it's horrible that we are 2nd with a 13-4 record and a percentage of 132.6%. Clearly both Melbourne & Casey are a long way off this year.

Yes, the fact that he had only 33 possessions & 8 marks today means his positioning was terrible. playing the role he was asked to. I agree with you about his disIt's really easy to take 8 marks when you're where the ball isn't. Casey's last line defence was terrific today and no doubt Baker wasposal effeciency but the rest is BS. Did you watch today's game?

Yes, almost exactly half. 2 NSW teams, 3 Queensland teams, 16 Victorian. 

BS. I'm happy to concede Baker's disposal isn't always great. And well done to highlight 2 disposal errors out of his total of 33. What did you think of the other 31 and his 8 marks? I hate it when posters make stuff up about seagulling for cheap kicks (what's that in English?). He was an important player today and his pace off the mark is crucial in providing defensive cover.

Did you watch the game? How many junk marks did Baker take in the last qtr? He calls for 15m sideways passes from teammates. That's seagulling. But that's not how we play at AFL level. Why do you think that he's never considered for promotion even when we have players out? He's rarely named as an emergency.

[DemonOX 8,791]

To anyone who has watched JVR closely, is he ready to be promoted to the seniors or does he still need to further develop before marking the senior’s?

Haven't seen him play at all hence the question. 

[waynewussell 5,738]

I am a JVR supporter but he had only satisfactory impact today. Couldn't quite hold on to marks when he got his hands to it and was out positioned on occasions. Made a contribution, but not enough to warrant promotion.

[mo64 5,874]

3 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

To anyone who has watched JVR closely, is he ready to be promoted to the seniors or does he still need to further develop before marking the senior’s?

Haven't seen him play at all hence the question. 

Today wasn't one of his better days, but the conditions didn't suit key forwards. We also bomb the ball in, which is our game plan, so key forwards have to earn their kicks. He didn't play as much 2nd ruck today, which I was happy about.

Personally, I think he's ready now because he loves the contest.

[Diamond_Jim 12,578]

Agree it wasn't a JVR type day today.

His positioning to mark for his one goal was very good.

Darcy for the Bulldogs was probably more impressive so it wasn't impossible for big men.

Next year is his time

Very early days for Woewodin but he is showing glimpses.His 2023 VFL season will be important.

Edited July 23, 2022 by Diamond_Jim

[Deestar9 1,615]

34 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

So what don't you like about the development component? It seems that players who come up to replace injured/dropped Melbourne players step right into the Melbourne game plan. Isn't that what's required? Melbourne have a deliberate polocy of not rotating players in and out of the senior side so the fact that there haven't been players coming through means absolutely nothing.

Yes, it's horrible that we are 2nd with a 13-4 record and a percentage of 132.6%. Clearly both Melbourne & Casey are a long way off this year.

Yes, the fact that he had only 33 possessions & 8 marks today means his positioning was terrible. It's really easy to take 8 marks when you're where the ball isn't. Casey's last line defence was terrific today and no doubt Baker was playing the role he was asked to. I agree with you about his disposal effeciency but the rest is BS. Did you watch today's game?

Yes, almost exactly half. 2 NSW teams, 3 Queensland teams, 16 Victorian. 

BS. I'm happy to concede Baker's disposal isn't always great. And well done to highlight 2 disposal errors out of his total of 33. What did you think of the other 31 and his 8 marks? I hate it when posters make stuff up about seagulling for cheap kicks (what's that in English?). He was an important player today and his pace off the mark is crucial in providing defensive cover.

I would come regularly to Demonland to read your posts. Had a good laugh & enjoyed your very well articulated responses to the negative hysteria we inevitably get whee we n a game is close or we lose . Posters should note that’s is  possible to get your point across without demeaning & vitriolic replies. Well done !!

[DeeZone 9,828]

That was a great win by the Casey boys today, there were a few doggies who played in the Granny running around today and they dominated the hit outs by a fair margin, yet we still ended up with a great win. We must be doing a lot right.!!!!!

[binman 42,920]

31 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

To anyone who has watched JVR closely, is he ready to be promoted to the seniors or does he still need to further develop before marking the senior’s?

Haven't seen him play at all hence the question. 

I went to today's game snd stood behind the goals at the city end, which was the scoring end.

Short answer is yes, if wasn't expected to be a key forward and hecame in for a handful of games. 

But he is a bit undersized for a key position role atm I reckon. 

That said he is just a fantastic competitor. 

One of Chandler's goals came after jvr willed himself to the marking contest, having tracked the ball from the wing.

He was stuffed, couldn't get to the tbe contest to matk, and had to push super hard just to get  a spoil, a smart two fist front and centre.

And his contested mark and goal was just fantastic. 

I love his desperation and he us the sort of player who just want to be involved in everything.

Demands the ball too, which I love.

Watching him live, he really reminded me of Schwartz pre knee.

Similar size and want for the contest.

Similar kicking style too - nice and simple and good technique.

 

 

Edited July 23, 2022 by binman