12 minutes ago, A F said:

For Grundy? Pick 20-25. Whether it's acquired as part of a shuffling of future picks and the Bedford trade, who knows, but we can't sit on our hands and hope Peter Bell grows a brain.

Great idea! We can then negotiate with the jar he keeps it in. 😉

 

 

On 9/30/2022 at 4:10 PM, Engorged Onion said:

What! A! Post! 
I presume you had some knowledge @Ouch!?

LOL, not a damn clue!

I honestly think it was around the time that the media were banging on about how good the pies were in the ruck, and Brodie mightnt get a game with the streak they were on.

I should have put some money down for a Tattslotto ticket that weekend!  (*cough* Gamble responsibly kiddies!!)

 

And this:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/grundy-to-take-pay-cut-when-he-signs-with-demons-20221003-p5bmvw.html?btis

That would be good, if we got him for $600k per year that would be huge.

This is a good sign. We will get an AA ruckman with at least 3-4 years of good footy on the cheap. If he goes for a second rounder that would be a steal.. 

Edited October 3, 20222 yr by CYB

Also says that his salary decreases over the last 2 years of the deal, I wonder if we're getting him to average it out a bit and it'll end up being around $600k per year (after the Pies chip in $300k). That'll be a huge get for us, I think he jumps into our top 10 players and will allow Max to play for another year or 2. A pick in the 20s would be justified here.

Some real smart dealing going on here, I like it! Calculated risk of course but 600k a year is palatable and could end up being very good business.

 

So this sounds like a done deal. which you would think means the draft pick has been agreed upon. what could the deal be?  we only have 32 which wouldn't be enough. maybe Future 2nd rounder plus 32?   F2 would be around 34 i guess

F2 and 32 with a Pies pick coming back our way?

 

19 hours ago, DubDee said:

So this sounds like a done deal. which you would think means the draft pick has been agreed upon. what could the deal be?  we only have 32 which wouldn't be enough. maybe Future 2nd rounder plus 32?   F2 would be around 34 i guess

F2 and 32 with a Pies pick coming back our way?

Well we got our answer now!

Edited October 4, 20222 yr by layzie

If we trade pick 27 for Grundy that is a huge steal.

Reading the salty Pies comments on social media justifies this.

2 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'm thinking pick 27 is heading their way. 

We probably throw in 52 and deal is done.

We have said we are only wanting 2 live picks this year.

Edited October 4, 20222 yr by Redleg

Just now, Redleg said:

We probably throw in 52 and deal is done.

Yep, a fiver for their troubles and admin fees. 

I reckon we will throw in whatever pick we get for Bedford and we are asking for better than #44 from GWS (the pick they received for Hill).

Edited October 4, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

10 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I reckon we will throw in whatever pick we get for Bedford and we are asking for better than #44 from GWS (the pick they received for Hill).

I’d be surprised if that was the case LH. Pies have asked for a pick inside top 25. We are very close with 27. If we add the Bedford pick then we are going way over their asking price. 

On 9/30/2022 at 4:07 PM, 1964_2 said:

Max can provide some amazing silver service in the ruck. But on the whole I don’t think we capitalise on his time in the middle as much as we should.

His marking around the ground is a real weapon (when not 1 on 5). So my guess would be Grundy more time ruck, Max a combination of forward and copying Geel strategy this year of ruckman pushing back to increase the chances of an intercept mark. 

Two other advantages I can see are

1) We would really capitalise when the main oppo ruckman is having a rest, and coming up against the part-timer

2) We would have great match-up flexibility to switch Max & Grundy ruck/back/fwd depending on the opponent and their weaknesses/strengths 

 

This. For our much vaunted midfield we do not dominate as we should.

7 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

This. For our much vaunted midfield we do not dominate as we should.

I tend to agree and it probably has to fall on Yze’s shoulders in some respect, however, what this point disregards is that we usually set up minus 1 at stoppages and sometimes minus 2. Our work from centre stoppage as the season wore on became deadly. We scored many of our goals from this situation.

It's all about manufacturing an outnumber behind the ball and backing our elite midfield to break even minus 1 or 2 down.

It's a percentage strategy, which is probably the right one in the long run.

 

6 minutes ago, A F said:

I tend to agree and it probably has to fall on Yze’s shoulders in some respect, however, what this point disregards is that we usually set up minus 1 at stoppages and sometimes minus 2. Our work from centre stoppage as the season wore on became deadly. We scored many of our goals from this situation.

It's all about manufacturing an outnumber behind the ball and backing our elite midfield to break even minus 1 or 2 down.

It's a percentage strategy, which is probably the right one in the long run.

I reckon it speaks more to the way we're trying to play than anything else, i don't think we might losing clearance on our terms, 

 

Just now, Demonland said:

 

Sam Weideman?

8 minutes ago, A F said:

I tend to agree and it probably has to fall on Yze’s shoulders in some respect, however, what this point disregards is that we usually set up minus 1 at stoppages and sometimes minus 2. Our work from centre stoppage as the season wore on became deadly. We scored many of our goals from this situation.

It's all about manufacturing an outnumber behind the ball and backing our elite midfield to break even minus 1 or 2 down.

It's a percentage strategy, which is probably the right one in the long run.

Pretty much. Our scores from stoppage were very good later in the season, it was our scores from turnover that was lacking. 

I got really excited when i saw Demonlandy had posted something in this thread. I need to settle into another marathon day.