Mickey 4,777 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said: Not sure of the points value of a climb up from 3rd round into early second round but it is hard to believe Bedford would be worth anywhere near that much. 32 is 2nd round. It's moving from late second to early second, yes, but a pick they might not even use 2 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,531 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 A pick in the low 20’s is fair for a multiple all Australian. 1 1 Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, Demonsterative said: Word is the Grundy deal will happen early. With GWS and the Tigers making a deal tomorrow, Im hopeful A great win if the club can make it happen! I reckon we get the Bedford done first to get our hands on pick 21. then on trade that to the pies 2 1 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, Demonsterative said: Word is the Grundy deal will happen early. With GWS and the Tigers making a deal tomorrow, Im hopeful A great win if the club can make it happen! Is it? One article I read stated it would only happen after the Jackson trade is done. Hopefully it's the former and no Jackson capital goes towards Grundy. 2 Quote
Demonsterative 3,021 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nascent said: Is it? One article I read stated it would only happen after the Jackson trade is done. Hopefully it's the former and no Jackson capital goes towards Grundy. I’ve read both, early and after. Just being hopeful here. 3 Quote
Travy14 2,142 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said: In 2016 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 Quote
picket fence 18,168 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 Yeah an apparent hoax Love his movies," Under Siege " SENSATIONAL! Quote
Demons1858 1,820 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, raikkonen_64 said: Exactly. On one hand it’s a salary dump. On the other hand, we have no back up ruckman and his obviously the best available. Not a clear cut salary dump, if reports are right and they pay $300k Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: A pick in the low 20’s is fair for a multiple all Australian. We can get 4 time All Aus Robbie Gray for a pick in the 80’s 2 Quote
picket fence 18,168 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, chookrat said: Pickett, while this approach could work and we 'win' the trade, such a transactional approach harm our reputation of being reasonable in negotiating trades and is likely to bite us on future trade. Like others have suggested if we can trade up on of our later picks to an early / mid second rounder through the loss of Hunt and Bedford. through the Jackson trade we should then have a early first round pick this year and an extra first round next year. Yeah , I know but sheeeit I dont like it! 1 Quote
rpfc 29,020 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 7 hours ago, DeeSpencer said: We can get 4 time All Aus Robbie Gray for a pick in the 80’s This is specious reasoning. What are the probabilities of a player of that calibre that late in the draft? Less than 1%. Getting picks ‘right’ in the top 15 means stars, 200 gamers or greats of the game. We have a few we prepared earlier… Getting the picks 50+ ‘right’ means role players, 50 gamers, and projects that dont go anywhere. Your frustration is misplaced, literally in random threads, and in reality. 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,274 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Demonsterative said: Word is the Grundy deal will happen early. With GWS and the Tigers making a deal tomorrow, Im hopeful A great win if the club can make it happen! Pretty sure the Grundy deal will be dependent on the Luke Jackson Freo deal. If that's the case then it's going to be a long wait as the Jsckson Freo deal will be a lot more complex. Edited October 2, 2022 by dazzledavey36 5 1 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said: Pretty sure the Grundy deal will be dependent on the Luke Jackson Freo deal. If that's the case then it's going to be a long wait as the Jsckson Freo deal will be a lot more complex. Why are these two deals linked? We are not going to give Collingwood a top 10 pick for Grundy, which is what we are asking for Jackson. I reckon the two deals are separate. 7 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) Sounding like Freo want a second rounder in return along with Jackson which I was hoping to use as part of the Grundy deal. All comes down to how that one works out Edited October 2, 2022 by layzie 1 Quote
one_demon 826 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 I can guarantee when he signs, the headline in the Herald Sun will be " GrunDEE" 2 1 Quote
jumbo returns 6,744 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 15 hours ago, Matt said: You don't think it could happen? Don't think so, Matt - it seems a bit steep for a guy who can't get a regular game 2 Quote
Dodos Demons 235 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, layzie said: Sounding like Freo want a second rounder in return along with Jackson which I was hoping to use as part of the Grundy deal. All comes down to how that one works out We should use the second rounder in the Grundy deal and get it done early and then we can say to Bell, sorry we don't have a second round to give you! From memory, Bell did similar to us when he split the Freo picks before the Hogan trade (ie he reduced what he could offer us as he no longer had it). 4 1 Quote
DubDee 26,667 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 Graham Wright said today the deal with MFC Was a fair way down the track 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,531 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 14 hours ago, DeeSpencer said: We can get 4 time All Aus Robbie Gray for a pick in the 80’s Robbie Gray's also about 15 years older than Grundy. 1 Quote
jumbo returns 6,744 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: Robbie Gray's also about 15 years older than Grundy. And whose body is shot to pieces 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,531 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, jumbo returns said: And whose body is shot to pieces I assume not Grundy. Otherwise why would we be trading for him? 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,711 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said: Pretty sure the Grundy deal will be dependent on the Luke Jackson Freo deal. If that's the case then it's going to be a long wait as the Jsckson Freo deal will be a lot more complex. Nah, I reckon we'll move forward irrespective of Jackson and Freo. Worst case scenario we have Jackson, Grundy and Max on our list, but we know LJ will get to a club in the West somehow. 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,274 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, A F said: Nah, I reckon we'll move forward irrespective of Jackson and Freo. Worst case scenario we have Jackson, Grundy and Max on our list, but we know LJ will get to a club in the West somehow. What are you thinking gets the deal done? 2nd rounder? 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,711 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said: What are you thinking gets the deal done? 2nd rounder? For Grundy? Pick 20-25. Whether it's acquired as part of a shuffling of future picks and the Bedford trade, who knows, but we can't sit on our hands and hope Peter Bell grows a brain. 2 Quote
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