Trade and Free Agency rumours

[John Demonic 5,906]

11 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Wouldn't mind at the club making an offer to Jack Bowes, he has a lot of what we're missing and he's in a great age bracket.

I think there's a position for him to play wing with his ball use, composure and clean hands being a strength and he's got good height and is strong above his head so folding back to intercept ala Gus is no issue.

These are the moves I wish the club would make.

Harmes and Jordon on a wing just does my head in. We just simply need to add some other components to our midfield mix.

 

Having Jack Bowes and Jake Bowey in our 22 will be a fun tongue-twister for @binman on the @Demonland podcast! Maybe we could even ask for David Swallow to be thrown in?

[1964_2 2,357]

Hugh Dixon cut from WCE.

better than Weid IMO. Could be worth a look

 

[Lucifers Hero 40,524]

10 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

I hope we are exploring what getting Bowes might take. Can play, good size for a versatile half back/wing, can kick and moves well. Good age for our list and being Suns are trying to salary dump make not cost much in trade. 

GCS have dangled a juicy carrot in another 'salary dump':  Pick 7!   clubs-eye-suns-pick-no-7

GOLD Coast is set to dangle pick No.7 as the draft sweetener for clubs vying to take on Jack Bowes and the two remaining years on his contract.

Bowes is signed through to the end of 2024 on a heavily back-ended deal, with the former top-10 pick and Suns Academy product open to a move to a new club.

The Suns are also embarking on a proactive reset of their salary cap position and will use their strong draft hand to entice rivals to take on players. 

It means clubs such as Hawthorn, St Kilda, Geelong and Essendon, who have all shown interest in Bowes, would also be in line to land the extra draft capital as part of the deal to take the versatile Sun's contract off their books. 

The Suns have so many picks in this draft that they won't use.  They are mastering the art of 'salary dump' very quickly!

Short of the unlikely event of not taking Grundy I can't see how we can create the cap space to get Bowes.

Edit:  I have just learnt that Tomlinson is contracted for another two years so if he was to ask for a trade we may fit Bowes in as Tomlinson is on about $500k p.a  (The Contracts thread has shown him as having one year to go.  I'll fix on the next version).

Edited September 21, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[BAMF 4,446]

2 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

GCS have dangled a juicy carrot in another 'salary dump':  Pick 7!   clubs-eye-suns-pick-no-7

GOLD Coast is set to dangle pick No.7 as the draft sweetener for clubs vying to take on Jack Bowes and the two remaining years on his contract.

Bowes is signed through to the end of 2024 on a heavily back-ended deal, with the former top-10 pick and Suns Academy product open to a move to a new club.

The Suns are also embarking on a proactive reset of their salary cap position and will use their strong draft hand to entice rivals to take on players. 

It means clubs such as Hawthorn, St Kilda, Geelong and Essendon, who have all shown interest in Bowes, would also be in line to land the extra draft capital as part of the deal to take the versatile Sun's contract off their books. 

The Suns have so many picks in this draft that they won't use.  They are mastering the art of 'salary dump' very quickly!

Short of the unlikely event of not taking Grundy I can't see how we can create the cap space to get Bowes.

Hard to comprehend that GC need salary cap relief that badly.

I just can't see a world where Gold Coast need to offload players due to salary cap pressure and we would be in a position to take advantage of it.

Tim Lamb will deserve a huge bonus if he has managed our list that well.

[BAMF 4,446]

39 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Hugh Dixon cut from WCE.

better than Weid IMO. Could be worth a look

Came in as a late replacement for JK in our game this year.

Looked alright when he had his moments. Just think the moments were a bit too few.

He has pinch hit in the ruck too. He might be a decent rookie pick.

[Lucifers Hero 40,524]

1 minute ago, BAMF said:

Hard to comprehend that GC need salary cap relief that badly.

I just can't see a world where Gold Coast need to offload players due to salary cap pressure and we would be in a position to take advantage of it.

Tim Lamb will deserve a huge bonus if he has managed our list that well.

Agreed.  The 'salary dump' change is intended to help struggling clubs who have the cap space get access to better picks/players.  Hence, the article mentions the clubs with the cap space: Hawthorn, Saints, Ess and Geelong.   It frightens the bejeesus our of me that Geelong could have the cap space to get him and get pick 7.  The AFL should check if there are 'freebies' being offered by Geelong that they don't count.  It just doesn't make sense that they can afford Bowes.

[Adam The God 30,617]

52 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

GCS have dangled a juicy carrot in another 'salary dump':  Pick 7!   clubs-eye-suns-pick-no-7

GOLD Coast is set to dangle pick No.7 as the draft sweetener for clubs vying to take on Jack Bowes and the two remaining years on his contract.

Bowes is signed through to the end of 2024 on a heavily back-ended deal, with the former top-10 pick and Suns Academy product open to a move to a new club.

The Suns are also embarking on a proactive reset of their salary cap position and will use their strong draft hand to entice rivals to take on players. 

It means clubs such as Hawthorn, St Kilda, Geelong and Essendon, who have all shown interest in Bowes, would also be in line to land the extra draft capital as part of the deal to take the versatile Sun's contract off their books. 

The Suns have so many picks in this draft that they won't use.  They are mastering the art of 'salary dump' very quickly!

Short of the unlikely event of not taking Grundy I can't see how we can create the cap space to get Bowes.

Edit:  I have just learnt that Tomlinson is contracted for another two years so if he was to ask for a trade we may fit Bowes in as Tomlinson is on about $500k p.a  (The Contracts thread has shown him as having one year to go.  I'll fix on the next version).

If we aee interwsted in Bowes, we might even ask AT to explore his options. I think he will anyway.

[picket fence 17,983]

21 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

If it came form SEN it was probably some delusional fan calling in to propose his/her wish list.

And the reddit posters have run off with it.

Its a salary dump.  They will be lucky we aren't Essendon but will be prepared to give fair value to get a deal done.

Chris from Camberwell needs to say something about this !!

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,307]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

GCS have dangled a juicy carrot in another 'salary dump':  Pick 7!   clubs-eye-suns-pick-no-7

GOLD Coast is set to dangle pick No.7 as the draft sweetener for clubs vying to take on Jack Bowes and the two remaining years on his contract.

Bowes is signed through to the end of 2024 on a heavily back-ended deal, with the former top-10 pick and Suns Academy product open to a move to a new club.

The Suns are also embarking on a proactive reset of their salary cap position and will use their strong draft hand to entice rivals to take on players. 

It means clubs such as Hawthorn, St Kilda, Geelong and Essendon, who have all shown interest in Bowes, would also be in line to land the extra draft capital as part of the deal to take the versatile Sun's contract off their books. 

The Suns have so many picks in this draft that they won't use.  They are mastering the art of 'salary dump' very quickly!

Short of the unlikely event of not taking Grundy I can't see how we can create the cap space to get Bowes.

Edit:  I have just learnt that Tomlinson is contracted for another two years so if he was to ask for a trade we may fit Bowes in as Tomlinson is on about $500k p.a  (The Contracts thread has shown him as having one year to go.  I'll fix on the next version).

It sounds great but also sounds like that deal likely has more $$ sitting in that last year than we would likely afford. I can see other teams as mentioned above having much more ease to accommodate and more want for the pick. I just like him as a player and would fit a 22 need in my view. 

Edited September 21, 2022 by Lil_red_fire_engine

[Adam The God 30,617]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

GCS have dangled a juicy carrot in another 'salary dump':  Pick 7!   clubs-eye-suns-pick-no-7

GOLD Coast is set to dangle pick No.7 as the draft sweetener for clubs vying to take on Jack Bowes and the two remaining years on his contract.

Bowes is signed through to the end of 2024 on a heavily back-ended deal, with the former top-10 pick and Suns Academy product open to a move to a new club.

The Suns are also embarking on a proactive reset of their salary cap position and will use their strong draft hand to entice rivals to take on players. 

It means clubs such as Hawthorn, St Kilda, Geelong and Essendon, who have all shown interest in Bowes, would also be in line to land the extra draft capital as part of the deal to take the versatile Sun's contract off their books. 

The Suns have so many picks in this draft that they won't use.  They are mastering the art of 'salary dump' very quickly!

Short of the unlikely event of not taking Grundy I can't see how we can create the cap space to get Bowes.

Edit:  I have just learnt that Tomlinson is contracted for another two years so if he was to ask for a trade we may fit Bowes in as Tomlinson is on about $500k p.a  (The Contracts thread has shown him as having one year to go.  I'll fix on the next version).

If we are interested in Bowes, we might even ask AT to explore his options. I think he will anyway.

Edited September 21, 2022 by A F

[Fat Tony 5,312]

3 minutes ago, A F said:

If we aee interwsted in Bowes, we might even ask AT to explore his options. I think he will anyway.

You can say that again!

[Adam The God 30,617]

1 minute ago, Fat Tony said:

You can say that again!

My phone weirdly reposted after I tried to edit out the typos haha.

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

DEES DEFENDER'S FUTURE UNCLEAR

MELBOURNE'S Jayden Huntfaces an uncertain future with the free agent remaining unsigned for next year.   

Hunt is an unrestricted free agent and played 20 games for the Demons this season, including their two finals. He also played 20 games in 2021 and was unlucky to miss out on the club's premiership win last year after injuring his ankle late in Melbourne's campaign.

He is without a contract for 2023. West Coast has a level of interest in Hunt and given his free agency status he could leave and join any club without a trade being enacted. 

The 27-year-old's speed, run and carry is his weapon and he was instrumental in the Demons' round 22 win over Carlton with a season-high 19 disposals and several key moments late in the game.

from AFL WEBSITE 

 

I recall Dees had offered him a 2 year deal. Assume he might want to get a 3-4 deal elsewhere.  Pace is at a premium imv and Hunt is one of our very few with pace , run and burst type players. 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by spirit of norm smith
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[Adam The God 30,617]

I wonder if we've asked Hunt to explore his options and if he can get a better deal, great, otherwise we'll take him on a two year deal.

[rpfc 28,919]

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

GCS have dangled a juicy carrot in another 'salary dump':  Pick 7!   clubs-eye-suns-pick-no-7

GOLD Coast is set to dangle pick No.7 as the draft sweetener for clubs vying to take on Jack Bowes and the two remaining years on his contract.

Bowes is signed through to the end of 2024 on a heavily back-ended deal, with the former top-10 pick and Suns Academy product open to a move to a new club.

The Suns are also embarking on a proactive reset of their salary cap position and will use their strong draft hand to entice rivals to take on players. 

It means clubs such as Hawthorn, St Kilda, Geelong and Essendon, who have all shown interest in Bowes, would also be in line to land the extra draft capital as part of the deal to take the versatile Sun's contract off their books. 

The Suns have so many picks in this draft that they won't use.  They are mastering the art of 'salary dump' very quickly!

Short of the unlikely event of not taking Grundy I can't see how we can create the cap space to get Bowes.

Edit:  I have just learnt that Tomlinson is contracted for another two years so if he was to ask for a trade we may fit Bowes in as Tomlinson is on about $500k p.a  (The Contracts thread has shown him as having one year to go.  I'll fix on the next version).

I don’t think he has 2 years left. He wasn’t given a 5 yr contract.

[cantstandyasam 700]

57 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

DEES DEFENDER'S FUTURE UNCLEAR

MELBOURNE'S Jayden Huntfaces an uncertain future with the free agent remaining unsigned for next year.   

Hunt is an unrestricted free agent and played 20 games for the Demons this season, including their two finals. He also played 20 games in 2021 and was unlucky to miss out on the club's premiership win last year after injuring his ankle late in Melbourne's campaign.

He is without a contract for 2023. West Coast has a level of interest in Hunt and given his free agency status he could leave and join any club without a trade being enacted. 

The 27-year-old's speed, run and carry is his weapon and he was instrumental in the Demons' round 22 win over Carlton with a season-high 19 disposals and several key moments late in the game.

from AFL WEBSITE 

 

I recall Dees had offered him a 2 year deal. Assume he might want to get a 3-4 deal elsewhere.  Pace is at a premium imv and Hunt is one of our very few with pace , run and burst type players. 

 

Hope he stays, nephew of Andy Moir and has Demon blood in his veins.

[Lucifers Hero 40,524]

Just now, rpfc said:

I don’t think he has 2 years left. He wasn’t given a 5 yr contract.

I'm not sure now.  I was taking the report at face value.  Silly me!  

In the Contracts thread I have always shown it as a 4 year contract ie expiring in 2023.  I will do more checking before the next version of that update.

[dl4e 5,851]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

DEES DEFENDER'S FUTURE UNCLEAR

MELBOURNE'S Jayden Huntfaces an uncertain future with the free agent remaining unsigned for next year.   

Hunt is an unrestricted free agent and played 20 games for the Demons this season, including their two finals. He also played 20 games in 2021 and was unlucky to miss out on the club's premiership win last year after injuring his ankle late in Melbourne's campaign.

He is without a contract for 2023. West Coast has a level of interest in Hunt and given his free agency status he could leave and join any club without a trade being enacted. 

The 27-year-old's speed, run and carry is his weapon and he was instrumental in the Demons' round 22 win over Carlton with a season-high 19 disposals and several key moments late in the game.

from AFL WEBSITE 

 

I recall Dees had offered him a 2 year deal. Assume he might want to get a 3-4 deal elsewhere.  Pace is at a premium imv and Hunt is one of our very few with pace , run and burst type players. 

 

Keep him.

[rpfc 28,919]

19 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I'm not sure now.  I was taking the report at face value.  Silly me!  

In the Contracts thread I have always shown it as a 4 year contract ie expiring in 2023.  I will do more checking before the next version of that update.

Actually I am wrong, multiple reports say 5 years. That was… not wise.

[Turner 1,516]

13 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

I hope we are exploring what getting Bowes might take. Can play, good size for a versatile half back/wing, can kick and moves well. Good age for our list and being Suns are trying to salary dump make not cost much in trade. 

the fact ur getting pick 7 WITH bowes should entice every club to make it work

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

DEES DEFENDER'S FUTURE UNCLEAR

MELBOURNE'S Jayden Huntfaces an uncertain future with the free agent remaining unsigned for next year.   

Hunt is an unrestricted free agent and played 20 games for the Demons this season, including their two finals. He also played 20 games in 2021 and was unlucky to miss out on the club's premiership win last year after injuring his ankle late in Melbourne's campaign.

He is without a contract for 2023. West Coast has a level of interest in Hunt and given his free agency status he could leave and join any club without a trade being enacted. 

The 27-year-old's speed, run and carry is his weapon and he was instrumental in the Demons' round 22 win over Carlton with a season-high 19 disposals and several key moments late in the game.

from AFL WEBSITE 

I recall Dees had offered him a 2 year deal. Assume he might want to get a 3-4 deal elsewhere.  Pace is at a premium imv and Hunt is one of our very few with pace , run and burst type players. 

bowes would be an upgrade on hunt imo

[Lucifers Hero 40,524]

33 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Actually I am wrong, multiple reports say 5 years. That was… not wise.

LOL!  I've found multiple reports of both 4 and 5 years.

So, I'm going with the official AFL PR at the time he was traded which is 4 years so Contracts thread stays as is.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/52273/inaugural-giant-joins-dees-as-free-agent-compensation-revealed.

OOC 2023, one year to go.

Edited September 22, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[SFebes 4,884]

7 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

LOL!  I've found multiple reports of both 4 and 5 years.

So, I'm going with the official AFL PR at the time he was traded which is 4 years so Contracts thread stays as is.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/52273/inaugural-giant-joins-dees-as-free-agent-compensation-revealed.

OOC 2023, one year to go.

I'm 99% sure it's a 5yr deal.

[Lucifers Hero 40,524]

1 minute ago, SFebes said:

I'm 99% sure it's a 5yr deal.

With no cheeky emoji there I will assume you are serious...

If you find an official document saying 5 years I'll change info.  Until then the AFL document will stay my official source.

[Matt 424]

How about Freo go get pick 7 & give it to us. Surely they have $ from the players they are loosing & Lobb

[grazman 7,513]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I've found multiple reports of both 4 and 5 years.

4 year deal with an option for a fifth if he hits the triggers? (I assume that it would be based on the # of games if that was the case).

If it is that situation (and I'm not saying it is necessarily the case with Tomo), but other players at other clubs have not been played in the seniors to avoid them hitting those triggers.   Backers of the player might perceive that as unfair, backers of the club would argue it's entirely in the clubs best interest to do that. 

Edited September 22, 2022 by grazman