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1 hour ago, Stein9193 said:

I'm sorry if this offends some people but why does everyone have such a big problem with identifying areas of improvement? I don't doubt the people in this group work very hard at what they do and maybe it is not their fault. Maybe the club needs to do more to support them? But why is it when we're on a message board for discussion that people feel so threatened?

Again I apologise to all the people here involved in the Demon Army this is not meant to be attacking you personally and you most likely do a good job. We need to keep striving for improvement in all areas of the club and if we can improve this area then why not?

I get it, but you just need to choose the words very carefully when doing so. 

 
On 6/5/2022 at 8:45 AM, DemonSam said:

I'm more than happy to do my part.

I don't get why you don't just join? Be part of something you want to change.

FWIW, things are tight with the soft cap, but there is a space for the club to find some student musos or some such to assist the DA, maybe get some OKEDO-DAIKO (Taiko drums) lined up- (sponsorship chance Jaguar?) Would sound awesome at the G and get rid of the loathsome banal crud american style basketball noise they pipe in after a goal.   

I love the DA, I love the big heads, and love their dedication!

 

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*I’ve pasted this comment from another thread*
 

I think the low attendance part is not so much the issue in all of this. If we had the same attendance but we were LOUD then it wouldn’t be brought up as much. I sit in Dees members and I yell and carry on as well as one guy in front of me. I’ll be honest, I feel like I’m ‘carrying on’ because me and this other guy are the most vocal just in our little area. 
 

There’s just no voice! We’re meek. It isn’t the cheer squad, it’s us other Dees fans that are so quiet. 
 

*Suggestion* 

We need ‘supporter’ reps that G up the crowd. All this means is being vocal and joining in chants and such when the cheer squad does in different parts of the ground, even when it’s quiet 🤫 I’ll put my hand up first. 
 

I’d suggest we make a ‘reps shirt’ or something and get as many people on demonland to get them so we’re visible. A kind of uniform. It can be as simple as a scarf.

If everyone on Demonland can commit to this then this seems like something that we on this site can do? It might become a thing? We need a cultural change as supporters, so we need as many of it on demonland to appear official and just make it happen.

People will get louder if others are already doing it. We need to make I semi-official so people don’t feel self-conscious as that’s what I feel like the culture is.

If people think this will work I’ll make a dedicated post and try and get some kind of ‘rep’ uniform made by polling or something.

 

That’s the best I’ve got. There doesn’t need to be heaps of us, we just need to be loud.

 

As much input would be appreciated as I don’t know if this is a crap idea or not. If lots of people buy into it, then let’s make it happen!

Edited by BoBo

 

We need to expand the cheer squad across the ground and change our meek culture. We can do this by making us demonlanders easily visible to each other, which means when we see earth other in our uniform, we’ll know that were going to have someone nearby that’s going to join in with chants and be loud.


30 minutes ago, rolling fog said:

Like a trumpeter?

50 would do the trick.

You bring yours?

Would you get a title like official Demonland Team Leader/Area Manager/Hall Monitor?  

You'd have to have a sash as part of the uniform surely! 

11 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Too late, I’ve let them in already. I know I should grow a thicker skin and I am, but it takes time. I’m more upset about these comments in relation to my fellow squad members. They are insanely devoted to our Club. They’re fiercely loyal and proud Demons diehards. It makes me sick to think of any of this nastiness ever reaching any of these beautiful people. 
Thanks for your support, FD💕

Hey The Cheer Squad Rocks

bring back Red & Blue Floggers ( Big Ones)

 
14 minutes ago, layzie said:

Would you get a title like official Demonland Team Leader/Area Manager/Hall Monitor?  

You'd have to have a sash as part of the uniform surely! 

I’ll get a sash made just for you Layzie. 

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Hey The Cheer Squad Rocks

bring back Red & Blue Floggers ( Big Ones)

Little floggers will have to suffice. Seems a large portion of our funds goes towards those giant heads. They’re not cheap. But personally, I love them. I’ve gone from Gussy (sans helmet) to helmeted Gussy to Jayden this past weekend, with my goal to hold aloft the Kozzie with his tongue out followed by the holy grail… Giant Maxy Head. 😁

In case anyone is wondering what happens when a giant head player retires… the giant head is raffled off, raising funds for, well, more giant heads. 🙃 Currently Jonesy’s head is being raffled. I’ve bought a tonne of tickets. Fingers crossed. And if I win - Soz, neighbours! 🤣


30 minutes ago, layzie said:

Would you get a title like official Demonland Team Leader/Area Manager/Hall Monitor?  

You'd have to have a sash as part of the uniform surely! 

I’m seeing lot of complaining on here about how quiet Dees fans are.

Either we all join the cheer squad or we try and organise something else.

If neither of these options aren’t to demonlanders liking and nobody else puts forward a better idea, then the topic should die off pretty quickly and this thread never be bough up again 🤷‍♂️ 
 

P.S. this isn’t directed at you specifically, just generally. 

 

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10 hours ago, Stein9193 said:

I'm sorry if this offends some people but why does everyone have such a big problem with identifying areas of improvement? I don't doubt the people in this group work very hard at what they do and maybe it is not their fault. Maybe the club needs to do more to support them? But why is it when we're on a message board for discussion that people feel so threatened?

Again I apologise to all the people here involved in the Demon Army this is not meant to be attacking you personally and you most likely do a good job. We need to keep striving for improvement in all areas of the club and if we can improve this area then why not?

Your posts have been very disparaging and mean spirited.

I’ve no problems at all with you making suggestions for improvements as long as you do so constructively.

18 hours ago, DeeZone said:

I never get bored with winning and have a look at our percentage after round 10, we weren’t playing well but still winning comfortably. We are still a game and percentage clear but need to knock off the confident Pies.!!

Of course you never get bored but it hasn’t been the best style of footy that gets you up and about. We just get the job done.. well we did and we will again 

8 hours ago, BoBo said:

I’m seeing lot of complaining on here about how quiet Dees fans are.

Either we all join the cheer squad or we try and organise something else.

If neither of these options aren’t to demonlanders liking and nobody else puts forward a better idea, then the topic should die off pretty quickly and this thread never be bough up again 🤷‍♂️ 
 

P.S. this isn’t directed at you specifically, just generally. 

 

No I hear ya, do something about it or accept and move on. A brainstorm isn't wasted. Appreciate the effort.

Edited by layzie

I sit in the Legends area first level up and right next to the MCC area and the area there is pretty much dead. I believe the members are discouraged from making excessive noise and the other side of where I sit is the President's lunch attendees.

I went to the Presidents Dinner of Saturday and there seemed to be a lot of Swans supporters there who got a lot noisier as the game went on. The point I'm trying to make is there is very little noise from the MCC members area and the Legends, Presidents lunch/dinner area which takes up most of that side of the ground.

Now settle down WCW, I'm not having a go at the Cheer Squad this is just a general comment.

I was at the end nearest our cheer squad and I couldn't hear them during the game but I could hear the Swans cheer squad as clear as a bell. I could also hear the Swans Supporters that sit next to the Dees cheer squad in the Shane Warne Stand.

Apart from amplification I don't know what the answer is. Those that sit in front of the Presidents Club area are a mixture of home and away and neutral supporters, we don't have many that sit in the AFL area.

You can't make noise if you are in there MCC members and those that are in my area are supporters and their guests and they are not going to make a [censored] of themselves if they have a client or guest with them. 

We don't have a Cat man or Tiger man and no one seems stupid enough to dress up as a Demon, we are not that type, some supporters put money in and some find other ways of doing things like joining the Cheer squad or volunteering.

The way the seating is configured it makes it hard to get all our members together and we just have too many conservative members. I guess if you want to have a noisy Cheer squad, join the Tigers or Collingwood.

Our supporters don't hang over the fence and threaten the umpires or have brawls after or during the game, so I guess I'd rather have them than a bunch os supposed dedicated supporters that really only go for the Booze and a Brawl than to watch the football.


3 hours ago, Dante said:

I sit in the Legends area first level up and right next to the MCC area and the area there is pretty much dead. I believe the members are discouraged from making excessive noise and the other side of where I sit is the President's lunch attendees.

I went to the Presidents Dinner of Saturday and there seemed to be a lot of Swans supporters there who got a lot noisier as the game went on. The point I'm trying to make is there is very little noise from the MCC members area and the Legends, Presidents lunch/dinner area which takes up most of that side of the ground.

Now settle down WCW, I'm not having a go at the Cheer Squad this is just a general comment.

I was at the end nearest our cheer squad and I couldn't hear them during the game but I could hear the Swans cheer squad as clear as a bell. I could also hear the Swans Supporters that sit next to the Dees cheer squad in the Shane Warne Stand.

Apart from amplification I don't know what the answer is. Those that sit in front of the Presidents Club area are a mixture of home and away and neutral supporters, we don't have many that sit in the AFL area.

You can't make noise if you are in there MCC members and those that are in my area are supporters and their guests and they are not going to make a [censored] of themselves if they have a client or guest with them. 

We don't have a Cat man or Tiger man and no one seems stupid enough to dress up as a Demon, we are not that type, some supporters put money in and some find other ways of doing things like joining the Cheer squad or volunteering.

The way the seating is configured it makes it hard to get all our members together and we just have too many conservative members. I guess if you want to have a noisy Cheer squad, join the Tigers or Collingwood.

Our supporters don't hang over the fence and threaten the umpires or have brawls after or during the game, so I guess I'd rather have them than a bunch os supposed dedicated supporters that really only go for the Booze and a Brawl than to watch the football.

I sit in the MCC are and you are allowed to make a noise. Cast your mind back to when we played Hawthorn and Geelong at the G in 2018 to make the finals, the sound inside the MCC (and around the ground) was unbelievable. When Kossie has the ball the noise around the ground lifts incredibly - he is so exciting. I am not talking about general play noise but when we were down by a couple of goals there was nothing on Saturday night. We (the supporters)went back into our shells and conceded that we were going to lose.

Maybe we should do what Geelong does and not allow large groups of opposition supporters to sit together. The group of Fremantle and Swan supporters were sitting directly behind and next to their cheer squads. The Swans do have a larger than normal interstate supporter base in Melbourne largely due to the work of Tony Morwood but the noise coming from that area was commented by many people sitting around us. It made me think that there is some technical device amplifying the sound to make it sound better for TV, the difference was so notable.

If we dont come together on Monday we will look ridiculous, and the players will need our support and noise especially after this morning's news.

Angelo was there last Saturday. Saw him on the TV coverage. Same seat as always, wearing a backwards cap I think.

38 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

@WalkingCivilWarMight there be a late change to the banner this week? Involving a cooked magpie, with a serving of chips and gravy 😈

There’s still four days ‘til banner build. At the rate we’re making the headlines right now, god only knows what will feature on it. 🙄 

16 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

There’s still four days ‘til banner build. At the rate we’re making the headlines right now, god only knows what will feature on it. 🙄 

"May spills Milkshake on flag dreams"  ?


9 hours ago, Dante said:

Now settle down WCW, I'm not having a go at the Cheer Squad this is just a general comment.

LOL. It’s as though you can see me. 😁

All good, Dante. You are expressing your opinion in a non-inflammatory way. Therefore, I won’t be ringing Hitmen R us. 

9 hours ago, Dante said:

I guess if you want to have a noisy Cheer squad, join the Tigers or Collingwood.

Our supporters don't hang over the fence and threaten the umpires or have brawls after or during the game, so I guess I'd rather have them than a bunch os supposed dedicated supporters that really only go for the Booze and a Brawl than to watch the football.

Our cheer squad is strictly family-friendly. No alcohol. No verbal abuse. No swearing even (probs my biggest challenge thus far 😁).  Occasionally someone lets loose with an F-bomb but that’s rare and the OGs will pull them up. 
Naturally, when I watch non-MFC matches I tend to check out their cheer squads. And there’s NO WAY the likes of Essendon, Collingwood, Richmond, among others have the same set of rules. You don’t need to be an expert lip-reader to know this. 
So if there is a correlation between noisy cheer squads and no ground rules, then there’s a problem since none of us are that feral. 

24 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

There’s still four days ‘til banner build. At the rate we’re making the headlines right now, god only knows what will feature on it. 🙄 

 "Demons to destroy Pies and their finals aspirations" A DEMON DEMOLITION

Undercard

May vs Melksham in the rematch of the century (half time entertainment) ... referee'd by the maitre d of Entrecote

That should ensure a bumper crowd!

Hopefully the banner acknowledges Neale and his achievements - both MFC and MND. It’s starting to look concerning as to whether he’ll be here next year IMHO (I sincerely hope I’m wrong).

 
3 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

Hopefully the banner acknowledges Neale and his achievements - both MFC and MND. It’s starting to look concerning as to whether he’ll be here next year IMHO (I sincerely hope I’m wrong).

I’ve not seen the copy yet but I’m sure FightMND will be the feature. 🙂 Probs advertising for one of MFC’s partners on the reverse. Gotta pay dem bills. 😁

On 6/6/2022 at 9:32 PM, BoBo said:

*I’ve pasted this comment from another thread*
 

I think the low attendance part is not so much the issue in all of this. If we had the same attendance but we were LOUD then it wouldn’t be brought up as much. I sit in Dees members and I yell and carry on as well as one guy in front of me. I’ll be honest, I feel like I’m ‘carrying on’ because me and this other guy are the most vocal just in our little area. 
 

There’s just no voice! We’re meek. It isn’t the cheer squad, it’s us other Dees fans that are so quiet. 
 

*Suggestion* 

We need ‘supporter’ reps that G up the crowd. All this means is being vocal and joining in chants and such when the cheer squad does in different parts of the ground, even when it’s quiet 🤫 I’ll put my hand up first. 
 

I’d suggest we make a ‘reps shirt’ or something and get as many people on demonland to get them so we’re visible. A kind of uniform. It can be as simple as a scarf.

If everyone on Demonland can commit to this then this seems like something that we on this site can do? It might become a thing? We need a cultural change as supporters, so we need as many of it on demonland to appear official and just make it happen.

People will get louder if others are already doing it. We need to make I semi-official so people don’t feel self-conscious as that’s what I feel like the culture is.

If people think this will work I’ll make a dedicated post and try and get some kind of ‘rep’ uniform made by polling or something.

 

That’s the best I’ve got. There doesn’t need to be heaps of us, we just need to be loud.

 

As much input would be appreciated as I don’t know if this is a crap idea or not. If lots of people buy into it, then let’s make it happen!

I know where you are coming from BoBo we used to have a couple of characters that used to sit to the right of us one was a mini cheer squad on his own but encouraged everyone around him to join in the fun, we had a ball in 2018 particularly once we got a sniff of what was happening. Prior to that there was an old guy who was covered in player badges and he never stopped yelling from start to finish and whenever the umps missed a free he would shout out “Break a Leg Umpire”. With the break caused by Covid there are a lot of people missing and we seemed to have lost that connection with the playing group, sad really!!!


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