TEAMS: Rd 11 vs Fremantle

[Lord Nev 13,512]

28 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If Weideman doesn't perform then makes you wonder if it'll ever click for him at AFL level.

Seems a bit of a harsh call to judge him on one game as a late replacement coming off a bye...

[Ham 741]

29 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If Weideman doesn't perform then makes you wonder if it'll ever click for him at AFL level.

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[PaulRB 6,297]

Happy for Weid to get another crack at it... feels like its just a matter of time before it all clicks for him.

[Fat Tony 5,074]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

Seems a bit of a harsh call to judge him on one game as a late replacement coming off a bye...

Very harsh. Weideman played well against Essendon and Richmond and was serviceable against GWS and Hawthorn. He is a good player who is struggling to break into a champion team.

[Docs Demons 1,748]

Just shows how strong we are with the depth of ready made players to come in and replace those hurt. Now over to you SAM. See if you can keep Tom Mac out for a few weeks.

[loges 6,767]

15 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Seems a bit of a harsh call to judge him on one game as a late replacement coming off a bye...

Pretty sure it's not 1 game.

[old55 22,779]

18 hours ago, old dee said:

How certain are we that Tmac will play? Look to be favouring a knee late in the game. Not listed in the 18. 

 

18 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I wondered the same thing.  He looked ok in the training video but it was only a few seconds.

Also wondered if Petty will start.  iirc he had some treatment on the bench last week and played only 82% game time which is really low for our defenders.  Also not in the starting 18.

Maybe a rare late change coming up.

Well predicted old dee and Luci!

[Fat Tony 5,074]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Yep, good call. he can cover Harmes minutes in the mid field and is natural forward so can cover Harmes' half forward role. 

I have been as big a critic of Melksham as anyone over his time at the dees.

My main criticism has been his lack of intensity, particularly in 2020.  But i have seen some really positive signs in that regard at in the Casey games i have watched. 

He is perhaps fortunate to keep his spot on the back of a pretty quiet game last week, but the fact he has tells me he applied sufficient pressure and played his role to a level acceptable to Goody. So, that's good enough for me.

It wouldn't shock me if getting him to 200 games is a factor in his selection. And if so, as someone noted, that would be in keeping with the culture of respect we have built. I think it was factor in the decision to pick Tmac for his 200th game ahead of Weed. 

That said there is no way Goody would gift anyone a game. If Goody figured he was not up to he job he wouldn't select him. Again, that's good enough for me.

I hope he has a ripping game and shows off some his undeniable A grade kicking skills. 

I think Melksham will play on the wing tomorrow. With Bedford coming into the 22, I think it is unlikely that Brayshaw gets moved from defence. We might play Bedford on the Langdon wing, but he didn't play there against North, so I think it will be Melksham again.

[ucanchoose 1,816]

Would have given Van Rooyen a game

[Lord Nev 13,512]

5 minutes ago, loges said:

Pretty sure it's not 1 game.

I don't begrudge anyone having made their mind up about him by now, fair enough. But to say 'if he doesn't perform in this one game then he's never gonna make it' seems a bit over the top to me.

[Sir Why You Little 36,622]

24 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Seems a bit of a harsh call to judge him on one game as a late replacement coming off a bye...

The Weid has had a lot of chances. He has to perform at a higher level consistently to cement a spot. 
That said he has done well with goal assists

But he needs more than that in this side 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Weid has had a lot of chances. He has to perform at a higher level consistently to cement a spot. 
That said he has done well with goal assists

But he needs more than that in this side 

100% agree.

[Lord Travis 10,457]

Weid will play his role as he always does.

Playing devils advocate here; Weid has averaged more goals and more tackles than TMac in 2022.

He’s been fine when he’s played and kicks his 2 goals a match routinely. If he played every week at his current output he’d kick around 40 goals a season, which is more than serviceable for a second tall forward. I think he’s judged harshly on here. He’s no superstar, but he’s capable at AFL level and could play all matches and do his bit.

It still baffles me why he signed a new contract with us and didn’t go elsewhere for more opportunity. He’s more than capable of getting a game every week at other teams. Guess he is hungry to play in a successful team!

Edited May 27, 2022 by Lord Travis

[loges 6,767]

13 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I don't begrudge anyone having made their mind up about him by now, fair enough. But to say 'if he doesn't perform in this one game then he's never gonna make it' seems a bit over the top to me.

The question then is how much more time does he need?

[jnrmac 19,890]

Not one premiership player amongst the Freo team. Just sayin....

[dees189227 12,061]

I'm not surprised Tom isn't playing. He finished last week's game on the bench with the boots off.

Well over to weiderman & see how he goes. He'll clunk a few but he has to convert them into goals, Max might play down forward a bit more & Jackson rucks the majority of the game

[binman 41,945]

1 hour ago, sisso said:

damn just when Tom had hit form too - still the Weid plays pretty well on the MCG has kicked a few goals this season

The forecast dry weather and the fact it is day game (so little risk of too much dew), albeit a late arvo one, will help Weid's cause.

Edited May 27, 2022 by binman

[Lord Nev 13,512]

5 minutes ago, loges said:

The question then is how much more time does he need?

My opinion is he doesn't need anymore time. I think where he's at is where he'll likely always be. A solid backup option/depth player that can play an ok role up forward but won't be a game breaker consistently.

I think people just still consider his draft position and are waiting for some kind of 'break out', but I don't reckon that will happen, at least in a way where it leads to consistently great games.

[Sir Why You Little 36,622]

15 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

100% agree.

I want him to succeed, but he has been a lucky boy. 
Many key forwards have been moved on in less time than Weid has. 
would be great if he could kick 3-4 goals in a quarter 

[old dee 23,487]

1 minute ago, dees189227 said:

I'm not surprised Tom isn't playing. He finished last week's game on the bench with the boots off.

Well over to weiderman & see how he goes. He'll clunk a few but he has to convert them into goals, Max might play down forward a bit more & Jackson rucks the majority of the game

It has surprised me all week that people seem to have forgotten how Tmac ended the game last weekend. I have little faith in the Weid, if he cannot put together a good game tomorrow after 6 years on the list he never will IMO. 

[sisso 2,555]

13 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Weid will play his role as he always does.

Playing devils advocate here; Weid has averaged more goals and more tackles than TMac in 2022.

He’s been fine when he’s played and kicks his 2 goals a match routinely. If he played every week at his current output he’d kick around 40 goals a season, which is more than serviceable for a second tall forward. I think he’s judged harshly on here. He’s no superstar, but he’s capable at AFL level and could play all matches and do his bit.

It still baffles me why he signed a new contract with us and didn’t go elsewhere for more opportunity. He’s more than capable of getting a game every week at other teams. Guess he is hungry to play in a successful team!

I agree I like the Weid and I think he will be the next in line when TMac retires - he would be playing every week for Collingwood or Essendon.

[old dee 23,487]

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

My opinion is he doesn't need anymore time. I think where he's at is where he'll likely always be. A solid backup option/depth player that can play an ok role up forward but won't be a game breaker consistently.

I think people just still consider his draft position and are waiting for some kind of 'break out', but I don't reckon that will happen, at least in a way where it leads to consistently great games.

I would be happy with consistent good games. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

I want him to succeed, but he has been a lucky boy. 
Many key forwards have been moved on in less time than Weid has. 
would be great if he could kick 3-4 goals in a quarter 

I wouldn't say lucky as such. He's had an unlucky run with poorly timed injuries, especially early on when they hindered his preseasons. The club would have him placed fairly among the group in terms of contract and expectations I reckon, so it is what it is.

[John Demonic 5,501]

The mid season trade period begun last night in secret.

Out: McDonald

In: Tex Walker

 

[roy11 3,661]

17 minutes ago, sisso said:

I agree I like the Weid and I think he will be the next in line when TMac retires - he would be playing every week for Collingwood or Essendon.

Tmac has a contract until the end of 2024. Imagine/Hoping JvR has busted down the door well before then.