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Petracca’s goalkicking

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watch the aftermath and his reactions, it's getting to him. all in his head now.  nothing else. His field kicking is elite. needs to sort it out and quickly. 

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    A big part of our inaccuracy is due to the fwds leading tight in to the pockets and the inside 50s getting directed in that way. We are one of the poorest sides in the top 8 as far as fwd leading movement , entries and execution 

    as I said in another thread - the media is always last to notice a change in trend /narrative. We are a fair way behind where people think we are and the next 6 weeks is going to reveal that.

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    10 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

    He kicks the ball way too hard. In play and during set shots. Which is why he is so inconsistent. 

    Nailed it.

     

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    I'm surprised to see a negative thread when we are in our most successful streak for two generations.  We are winning by 3-8 goals each week. 

    On scoring, the whole team has a very poor G:B ratio.  Would Petracca's or anyone else's scoring accuracy make much difference to 10.0 season and a 161%?

    No player is perfect so not sure why folks are nit picking one of our very best, week in week out, even when playing injured.

    And look at the big picture.  His contribution to TEAM scoring this year: 

    Source:  Footy wire.

    The coaches have shown what they value:  last week he kicked 2.4 but received 9 coaches votes!  He will be in the votes again this week.

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    Right now our best set shot kick in the midfield group is probably Jack Viney. Who would have thought. 

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    I sat on a presentation with Goody and Trac before rd 1 and Goody mentioned that Trac had mentioned to him that he was worried about his goal kicking.   So it seems they are aware of it and I dare they say they have been working on it but his confidence is shot when it comes to set shots.   His field kicking is still elite! 

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    5 hours ago, Munga said:

    A big part of our inaccuracy is due to the fwds leading tight in to the pockets and the inside 50s getting directed in that way. We are one of the poorest sides in the top 8 as far as fwd leading movement , entries and execution 

    as I said in another thread - the media is always last to notice a change in trend /narrative. We are a fair way behind where people think we are and the next 6 weeks is going to reveal that.

    It's been part of our game plan and success for the past 18 months. If forwards lead straight up the middle, it's more difficult to defend if there's a turnover. 

    Our game plan is built around defence first. If we hold our structures and win contested possession, we give ourselves enough chances to score, whilst limiting the opposition.

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    6 hours ago, Munga said:

    A big part of our inaccuracy is due to the fwds leading tight in to the pockets and the inside 50s getting directed in that way. We are one of the poorest sides in the top 8 as far as fwd leading movement , entries and execution 

    as I said in another thread - the media is always last to notice a change in trend /narrative. We are a fair way behind where people think we are and the next 6 weeks is going to reveal that.

    You obviously have bets laid on Demon Losses

    No point showing your hand early. September is when Legends are made

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    IIRC his goal kicking stank in 2019 or 2020 or both as well. I attributed the drastic improvement mainly to Choco. Not sure what's happened this time around but he's gone backwards at a rate of knots. It might be the knee issue but hopefully he'll get on top of it by finals.

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    5 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

    IIRC his goal kicking stank in 2019 or 2020 or both as well. I attributed the drastic improvement mainly to Choco. Not sure what's happened this time around but he's gone backwards at a rate of knots. It might be the knee issue but hopefully he'll get on top of it by finals.

    The issue is in his head, not knee. On the club's Instagram, they show a clip of Trac in the warm up drilling a set shot from the same position where fluffed the around the corner kick. In the warmup though he kicked a regular drop punt. 

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    15 minutes ago, mo64 said:

    The issue is in his head, not knee. On the club's Instagram, they show a clip of Trac in the warm up drilling a set shot from the same position where fluffed the around the corner kick. In the warmup though he kicked a regular drop punt. 

    No doubt it is above the shoulders. He has to sort out a routine that works 

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    7 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    I'm surprised to see a negative thread when we are in our most successful streak for two generations.  We are winning by 3-8 goals each week. 

    On scoring, the whole team has a very poor G:B ratio.  Would Petracca's or anyone else's scoring accuracy make much difference to 10.0 season and a 161%?

    No player is perfect so not sure why folks are nit picking one of our very best, week in week out, even when playing injured.

    And look at the big picture.  His contribution to TEAM scoring this year: 

    Source:  Footy wire.

    The coaches have shown what they value:  last week he kicked 2.4 but received 9 coaches votes!  He will be in the votes again this week.

    I don't think this is a 'negative thread'.    Simply imagine how much more of a weapon he'd be if he improved his goal kicking. 

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    This is why he should never ever be played in the forward line. One of the worst kicks for goal in the league. comfortably. 

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    If we are going to be objective, there is a problem. Has kicked 9-16 this year. Two things stand out. The ball drop appears too high and he tends to lean back too much. 

    The good news is these things can be fixed and he does look much better when he consciously has a low ball drop.

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    It’s a mental thing. One day he will kick 3 straight in a game and he won’t miss again for the rest of the season. He is in his own head. His reaction to missing simple shots is one of utter devastation. 

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    16 hours ago, Deedubs said:

    This is why he should never ever be played in the forward line. One of the worst kicks for goal in the league. comfortably. 

    So he is not allowed inside our 50m zone and has  to handpass and not go for goals ever? 

    Good luck with that "never play in the forward line " ideology. He is going through a patch without any confidence and still is better on the run or snapping than a set shot. Agree with another poster here  that he will recover his good kicking all of a sudden and delight is with his skill. 

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    16 hours ago, Deedubs said:

    This is why he should never ever be played in the forward line. One of the worst kicks for goal in the league. comfortably. 

    🤦🏼‍♂️

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    Who is going to keep him out of the forward line? Will never happen.

    As for his kicking, it appears to be a function of the ball drop and the desire to kick the ball out of the ground. Tracca's great skill is to use his positioning and strength to get the ball, evade tackles and deliver the ball to advantage. In time, his fine touch ball handling will catch up and he will be a more complete player.

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    On 5/22/2022 at 7:26 AM, Lucifers Hero said:

    The coaches have shown what they value:  last week he kicked 2.4 but received 9 coaches votes!  He will be in the votes again this week.

    For those in this thread complaining about Petracca's goal kicking you might like to note he received votes from both coaches again this week: 6 votes in total.  He is now 3rd on the Leader Board.

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    23 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    For those in this thread complaining about Petracca's goal kicking you might like to note he received votes from both coaches again this week: 6 votes in total.  He is now 3rd on the Leader Board.

    "We just want him to be the best he can be" 😇

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    1 minute ago, Engorged Onion said:

    "We just want him to be the best he can be" 😇

    But he can't be perfect...

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    On 5/22/2022 at 7:26 AM, Lucifers Hero said:

    I'm surprised to see a negative thread when we are in our most successful streak for two generations.  We are winning by 3-8 goals each week. 

    On scoring, the whole team has a very poor G:B ratio.  Would Petracca's or anyone else's scoring accuracy make much difference to 10.0 season and a 161%?

    No player is perfect so not sure why folks are nit picking one of our very best, week in week out, even when playing injured.

    And look at the big picture.  His contribution to TEAM scoring this year: 

    Source:  Footy wire.

    The coaches have shown what they value:  last week he kicked 2.4 but received 9 coaches votes!  He will be in the votes again this week.

    He still is a shizen kick for goal though and we are  likely going to need to kick straight over the next month or so.

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    5 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    For those in this thread complaining about Petracca's goal kicking you might like to note he received votes from both coaches again this week: 6 votes in total.  He is now 3rd on the Leader Board.

    He is a flawed footballer who should be dropped to Casey. I’m sick of his [censored]. 3rd! Pfft rubbish. 

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    On 5/22/2022 at 7:26 AM, Lucifers Hero said:

    I'm surprised to see a negative thread when we are in our most successful streak for two generations.  We are winning by 3-8 goals each week. 

    On scoring, the whole team has a very poor G:B ratio.  Would Petracca's or anyone else's scoring accuracy make much difference to 10.0 season and a 161%?

    No player is perfect so not sure why folks are nit picking one of our very best, week in week out, even when playing injured.

    And look at the big picture.  His contribution to TEAM scoring this year: 

    Source:  Footy wire.

    The coaches have shown what they value:  last week he kicked 2.4 but received 9 coaches votes!  He will be in the votes again this week.

    I agree with the general premise of your post. I tend to view this and other issues (e.g. our low inside 50 retention rate) as positives - room for improvement despite us being 10-0 and 161%.

    On the bolded bit, Petracca really does stand out for inaccuracy, but as you say, he's not on his own.

    This is a list of all of our players who have kicked more behinds than goals, ranked by accuracy:

    1. Oliver: 1.5 (16.6%)
    2. ANB: 2.7 (22.2%)
    3. Sparrow: 2.4 (33.3%)
    4. Melksham: 1.2 (33.3%)
    5. Petracca: 9.17 (34.6%)
    6. Spargo: 5.7 (41.6%)

    Melksham's only played two games so taking him out and focusing on the best 22, Petracca's only our 4th worst shot on goal so far this year.

    But obviously his volume of shots makes him stand out above everyone else.

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    12 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

    This is a list of all of our players who have kicked more behinds than goals, ranked by accuracy:

    1. Oliver: 1.5 (16.6%)
    2. ANB: 2.7 (22.2%)
    3. Sparrow: 2.4 (33.3%)
    4. Melksham: 1.2 (33.3%)
    5. Petracca: 9.17 (34.6%)
    6. Spargo: 5.7 (41.6%)

    Sparrow's accuracy looks a lot worse when you include the six shots at goal which haven't registered a score. Here are all Melbourne's players to have taken at least five shots this year, noting of course that raw accuracy doesn't take into account where players take their shots from nor the pressure they are under when they take the kick. This is where Champion Data's expected score can be useful but they don't make the data available for individual players.

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    Here are the least accurate players in the AFL this year who have taken at least ten shots.

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    Notes:
    For the purpose of comparison to xScore, Score excludes rushed behinds.
    xScore sourced from the Herald Sun / Champion Data via https://twitter.com/OliverGigacz/status/1528338101042806785?s=20&t=LvFmdS4tCVKdBsutoZc2pg

     

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