Be interesting to see if Mitchell tries something different or just goes with the manic forward pressure. They really are a very small team, but they do have a bit of pace to them. Surely Brown would be far too big for Frost.

  On 26/04/2022 at 01:59, Wodjathefirst said:

I just hope the Dee’s are hungry enough to eat the crotch out of the low flying hawks. GO DEES.  Eat ‘em alive!

Perhaps @Bitter but optimistic can provide some coaching and advice? 😉

  On 26/04/2022 at 08:07, Jontee said:

So no kicking around the corner?

I've never understood why AFL players don't kick around the corner for all set shots like the Gaelic players because it's far more accurate 

  On 26/04/2022 at 12:48, one_demon said:

I've never understood why AFL players don't kick around the corner for all set shots like the Gaelic players because it's far more accurate 

The oval shaped ball means the spin drags the ball down quicker which means you have to flush the ball in the ‘belly’ for shots past 30m out and that makes the ‘around the corner’ kick just as hard to master as the drop punt. 

Kids should definitely do more check sides and bananas and barrels though- they all have their place in the game.

Edited April 26, 20222 yr by rpfc

  On 26/04/2022 at 08:07, Jontee said:

So no kicking around the corner?

 

No doubt a place for that with set shots on tighter angles Jont.  I'm not saying Pendles Rugby kicking tutor was right or wrong either but the proof of the pudding was there to see yesterday.

Reckon there'd still be room for individual preferences/styles/flair etc.

Just regurgitating what Pendles said happened during their training in the lead up to Anzac day.  I'm sure there was a bit more to it than just running in straight at the target but who knows.

Edited April 26, 20222 yr by Demon Dynasty

  On 26/04/2022 at 12:48, one_demon said:

I've never understood why AFL players don't kick around the corner for all set shots like the Gaelic players because it's far more accurate 

Someone mentioned some stats on the traditional set shot accuracy vs round the corner and the round the corner came out ahead but only marginally by a few % points if i recall correctly.  Still if there's any slight advantage to be had i guess there's no reason why you wouldn't take it if you have the skill set

Edited April 26, 20222 yr by Demon Dynasty

In our truly horrible years I went to a Dees v Hawks game at the G on a Friday night with a couple of colleagues. They were both Hawks supporters and insisted we sit next to the cheer squad. I slammed 6 pots before the game at Y&J as I knew I couldn't watch our team sober in that environment. 

We got smashed by a huge amount, no surprise

What I have not forgotten is how nice the Hawks supporters were towards me. At one point I had my head buried in my hands and a couple came up and patted me on the back and told me things will come good etc. and at the end of the game a few shook my hand for sticking to the bitter end. 

I bare them no ill will, although I still hope we smash them 

Edited April 26, 20222 yr by Hatchman

  On 26/04/2022 at 19:50, Hatchman said:

In our truly horrible years I went to a Dees v Hawks game at the G on a Friday night with a couple of colleagues. They were both Hawks supporters and insisted we sit next to the cheer squad. I slammed 6 pots before the game at Y&J as I knew I couldn't watch our team sober in that environment. 

We got smashed by a huge amount, no surprise

What I have not forgotten is how nice the Hawks supporters were towards me. At one point I had my head buried in my hands and a couple came up and patted me on the back and told me things will come good etc. and at the end of the game a few shook my hand for sticking to the bitter end. 

I bare them no ill will, although I still hope we smash them 

Are you sure they were actually Hawthorn supporters Hatchman?

The type of Hawthorn supporters I remember from back in the day were over boisterous, arrogant AF.  Memories seared in my brain as a kid from walking out of games at the G or Waverly after any kind of loss and them telling us how good they were and how crap we were - and this is even during the mid 90s when we had an average to good side.

I guess it's typically of life that we remember the 1% and they are the ones that ruin it for the majority.

  On 26/04/2022 at 19:50, Hatchman said:

In our truly horrible years I went to a Dees v Hawks game at the G on a Friday night with a couple of colleagues. They were both Hawks supporters and insisted we sit next to the cheer squad. I slammed 6 pots before the game at Y&J as I knew I couldn't watch our team sober in that environment. 

We got smashed by a huge amount, no surprise

What I have not forgotten is how nice the Hawks supporters were towards me. At one point I had my head buried in my hands and a couple came up and patted me on the back and told me things will come good etc. and at the end of the game a few shook my hand for sticking to the bitter end. 

I bare them no ill will, although I still hope we smash them 

A good story for me to hear.

I was at the 88 GF and for ALL of the last qtr some big loud ugly hawk supporter next to me was spouting hate fr the dees and directing some of it at me. It’s an enduring memory as the game itself was fully crap enough. I thought at the time, and since,  why waste the joy of winning a flag by being such a [censored] head? 

Good to know there are some decent hawks around. But i’ll still extra enjoy thrashing them if we do. 

  On 26/04/2022 at 21:02, Wells 11 said:

A good story for me to hear.

I was at the 88 GF and for ALL of the last qtr some big loud ugly hawk supporter next to me was spouting hate fr the dees and directing some of it at me. It’s an enduring memory as the game itself was fully crap enough. I thought at the time, and since,  why waste the joy of winning a flag by being such a [censored] head? 

Good to know there are some decent hawks around. But i’ll still extra enjoy thrashing them if we do. 

'87 Prelim was where I learnt to hate the Hawks supporters.  What a pack of flogs. As W11 just said, why not just enjoy the victory.

The way we play now, reminds me of playing the Hawks over the years. I remember getting excited in the few games that were relatively close. 'We're a chance here,' I'd think, only to watch the Hawks temporarily shift out of second gear to take the game out of our reach. I hope we smash them!

You know your team is good when another team’s boast is “we drew with them last year!”

  On 26/04/2022 at 21:59, WalkingCivilWar said:

You know your team is good when another team’s boast is “we drew with them last year!”

Demons supporters during the Neeld era ... "we only lost to ## by 5 goals last time" !!

  On 26/04/2022 at 21:43, Roger Mellie said:

The way we play now, reminds me of playing the Hawks over the years. I remember getting excited in the few games that were relatively close. 'We're a chance here,' I'd think, only to watch the Hawks temporarily shift out of second gear to take the game out of our reach. I hope we smash them!

Except the games we played them in 2016 I think actually did mark something of a turning point in our level of competitiveness and belief and the start of their decline. 

We played them early in the season and got within a few goals of them in a hard fought game.  Second time we played them late in the home and away, we beat them quite convincingly.  I think it was from our performance in that game and his relationship with Todd Viney if I remember correctly that helped convince Jordan Lewis to make the call to move across and join us.

From that moment onwards, our trajectory has been mostly in the upwards direction (including against the Hawks) and Jordan Lewis went from being a loathed personality (simply by being a Hawthorn player), to one I now quite enjoy listening to.

  On 27/04/2022 at 01:31, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Except the games we played them in 2016 I think actually did mark something of a turning point in our level of competitiveness and belief and the start of their decline. 

We played them early in the season and got within a few goals of them in a hard fought game.  Second time we played them late in the home and away, we beat them quite convincingly.  I think it was from our performance in that game and his relationship with Todd Viney if I remember correctly that helped convince Jordan Lewis to make the call to move across and join us.

From that moment onwards, our trajectory has been mostly in the upwards direction (including against the Hawks) and Jordan Lewis went from being a loathed personality (simply by being a Hawthorn player), to one I now quite enjoy listening to.

Which game was the one, one of our players patted Lewis on his bald spot..

To be fair, during the Neeld era we had descended into a team that just everyone pitied. We were impossible to hate

  On 26/04/2022 at 13:14, Demon Dynasty said:

 

No doubt a place for that with set shots on tighter angles Jont.  I'm not saying Pendles Rugby kicking tutor was right or wrong either but the proof of the pudding was there to see yesterday.

Reckon there'd still be room for individual preferences/styles/flair etc.

Just regurgitating what Pendles said happened during their training in the lead up to Anzac day.  I'm sure there was a bit more to it than just running in straight at the target but who knows.

Fatigue has a huge impact on kicking as well

  On 27/04/2022 at 02:45, jnrmac said:

Fatigue has a huge impact on kicking as well

Yes good point Jnr...no doubt there's a distance/fatigue 👉🏼 accuracy factor

I bet the mood has picked up significantly as today has gone on. 

Yep, I bet the squawk talk has sky rocketed..

An update but not much optimism post our covid news:

• Just need another 10 to go down and we are a chance
• I still expect us to lose because they're clearly the top team and we're clearly inconsistent and around the middle. But we've shown we can play some very good football. We'd really be wanting to test ourselves here where as the stakes aren't nearly as high for them. If we're lucky we might catch them napping.
• Jackson, Pickett and Petracca would be massive losses.
• Big Maxy and Clarry should probably pop around and give them a cuddle and make sure they're ok.
• May can't drop past with the beers as well
• The worst thing for Melbourne would be for covid to run through the squad in finals. They really should all get around to Jackson's place for a session. Get it out of the way now
• Hopefully another 7-8 cases for them over the next couple of days.
• So a 12 goal margin has gone down to 11

They seem fixated about playing us on a 5 day break, conveniently forgetting we have only a 5.75 day break from a night game meaning post match recovery etc goes into the early hours of the next day.

Edited April 27, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

  On 27/04/2022 at 06:30, Lucifers Hero said:

An update but not much optimism post our covid news:

• Just need another 10 to go down and we are a chance
• So a 12 goal margin has gone down to 11

My personal faves! 😂

Some pretty funny stuff, atleast the Hawks supports arent on the copium like Tigers supporters are

I know a lot of hawks fans who are fine and a lot who are arrogant flogs. I try and be fair with who i dish it out to 😂

Hawks have beaten 2 top 4 teams from last year and lost to Carlton by a point. 

Clearly they can bring a challenge to us. To me, they are a bigger challenge than the teams that park the bus and don't attack. They may unlock a weakness by actually trying to win the game