Gus might leave coz he is ‘bit’ type player?

he almost won a norm Smith and turned the GF for us!

id say he is bloody important part of our team

  On 28/02/2022 at 10:45, Neil Crompton said:

Why are you , and a few others, convinced that Gus wants a media career post playing?

He is currently studying finance (?) at Uni. I see him more the successful business tycoon as opposed to a media man.

Yea fair enough. I'm just saying he doesn't need to be a star midfielder/brownlow medallist with a big payday. But good call by you 

Gus already has a resoundingly successful career in the media as the 'Gus' in 'Gus & Gawny'

Edited February 28, 20223 yr by adonski

  On 28/02/2022 at 10:51, DubDee said:

,Gus might leave coz he is ‘bit’ type player?

he almost won a norm Smith and turned the GF for us!

id say he is bloody important part of our team

Nobody's going to argue with that analysis mate. His third quarter in the Granny was crucial.

But you need to think of Gus as a human being, an elite athlete who has options.

Think of Ed Langdon, mate. Really happy to embrace that wing role. Run a marathon every week, get a kick occasionally. Turn a game when you get that opportunity.

While I have the microphone,  can I say I thought Pickett's Granny was one of the best games I have seen him play? Hardly a possession and no goals, but what a game he played. Petracca's amazing dribble goal would not have happened if Kosi had not taken out Dunkley.

Back to the topic, DubDee, can you not see why Angus would be considering his options?

Brayshaw got nowhere near the Norm Smith in 2021. He was playing on a wing FCS !!  In 2018, he got bloody close to the Brownlow. If people on here can't understand why Gus is looking at the next 5-6 years, they have rocks in their heads.

More premiership opportunities at the Dees or a tilt at the Brownlow ??

I say again, we all want him to stay, but we need to respect the player and live with his decision.

I am not ignoring other posts on this thread, but I am thinking Freo or the Saints for Angus.

Brayshaw can find more of the footy on the wing. He played a defensive wing style. But he was getting a feel of the role. I have no doubt he will find more of the ball as he gains more confidence in his position. He looked good in the practice match. I think he can improve his goalkicking, and push into the forward line, becoming an unusual defensive winger who can damage the scoreboard. That would be a very effective role. The more accountable he makes his opponent the less his opponent is able to be an attacking weapon.

  On 28/02/2022 at 10:51, DubDee said:

 

he almost won a norm Smith...

 

Really? He didn't feature in the top five voting. Petracca, Fritsch, Oliver, Salem and Daniel...

  On 28/02/2022 at 16:06, dee-tox said:

Really? He didn't feature in the top five voting. Petracca, Fritsch, Oliver, Salem and Daniel...

He was in our Top5  it doesn't matter about Daniels. !! 

To be honest those 4 and Angus were easily the best for us and Clarry Salo snd Gus were all equal third in my opinion behind Trac  and Fritta. 

  On 28/02/2022 at 12:03, peter connor said:

Nobody's going to argue with that analysis mate. His third quarter in the Granny was crucial.

But you need to think of Gus as a human being, an elite athlete who has options.

Think of Ed Langdon, mate. Really happy to embrace that wing role. Run a marathon every week, get a kick occasionally. Turn a game when you get that opportunity.

While I have the microphone,  can I say I thought Pickett's Granny was one of the best games I have seen him play? Hardly a possession and no goals, but what a game he played. Petracca's amazing dribble goal would not have happened if Kosi had not taken out Dunkley.

Back to the topic, DubDee, can you not see why Angus would be considering his options?

Brayshaw got nowhere near the Norm Smith in 2021. He was playing on a wing FCS !!  In 2018, he got bloody close to the Brownlow. If people on here can't understand why Gus is looking at the next 5-6 years, they have rocks in their heads.

More premiership opportunities at the Dees or a tilt at the Brownlow ??

I say again, we all want him to stay, but we need to respect the player and live with his decision.

I am not ignoring other posts on this thread, but I am thinking Freo or the Saints for Angus.

If Brayshaw leaves, his motivation will be money, not winning a Brownlow. In 2019, he played 22 games as an inside mid and got 0 Brownlow votes. In fact, aside from 2018 when he got 21 votes, he has polled a total of 1 vote. So let's stop this nonsense of Gus leaving to seek individual glory at another club.

Truth be known, Gus has probably received a starting offer for his next contract and thinks he should get some games under his belt to see if there is a better offer at the middle or end of the year.

I can't see Gus leaving, he's popular with the other players and has some good friends at the club, plus why would you want to leave a club that is on the edge of greatness for a bit of extra cash that the government will take half of anyway.

A lot of interesting comments on here about Gus and his future since the announcement that he is delaying contract renewal talks. What is more interesting is that there were none of these same thoughts and comments about Gus before the announcement.

Pre announcement: "what a great year Gus has had, particularly the finals"; "what a great role player Gus has developed into and how important he and his role is in the team", etc.

Post announcement: "Gus wants more mid time and is looking elsewhere to get it"; "Gus wants more money"; "Gus is overpaid for a role player and has to take a pay cut so that we can keep Jacko and Oli" etc   

Is this our MFCSS resurfacing? Let's perhaps chill a bit and see what pans out.

FWIW, I'd be very surprised if he has even considered looking elsewhere.

It's MFCCS ... Merlbourne Football Club Contract Syndrome.

  On 01/03/2022 at 00:36, Neil Crompton said:

A lot of interesting comments on here about Gus and his future since the announcement that he is delaying contract renewal talks. What is more interesting is that there were none of these same thoughts and comments about Gus before the announcement.

Pre announcement: "what a great year Gus has had, particularly the finals"; "what a great role player Gus has developed into and how important he and his role is in the team", etc.

Post announcement: "Gus wants more mid time and is looking elsewhere to get it"; "Gus wants more money"; "Gus is overpaid for a role player and has to take a pay cut so that we can keep Jacko and Oli" etc   

Is this our MFCSS resurfacing? Let's perhaps chill a bit and see what pans out.

FWIW, I'd be very surprised if he has even considered looking elsewhere.

Exactly what I’ve been thinking.

putting contact talks on hold doesn’t have to mean your considering rival offers.

do we even know if Gus himself has put talks on hold or

Gus and the club decided it would be best for both parties to get other deals finished first. 

I wouldn’t put any faith in the bloke who wrote the article knowing, considering he suggested Freo as an option, when Gus has publicly stated, more than once, he’s staying in Melbourne.

  On 28/02/2022 at 12:03, peter connor said:

Nobody's going to argue with that analysis mate. His third quarter in the Granny was crucial.

But you need to think of Gus as a human being, an elite athlete who has options.

Think of Ed Langdon, mate. Really happy to embrace that wing role. Run a marathon every week, get a kick occasionally. Turn a game when you get that opportunity.

While I have the microphone,  can I say I thought Pickett's Granny was one of the best games I have seen him play? Hardly a possession and no goals, but what a game he played. Petracca's amazing dribble goal would not have happened if Kosi had not taken out Dunkley.

Back to the topic, DubDee, can you not see why Angus would be considering his options?

Brayshaw got nowhere near the Norm Smith in 2021. He was playing on a wing FCS !!  In 2018, he got bloody close to the Brownlow. If people on here can't understand why Gus is looking at the next 5-6 years, they have rocks in their heads.

More premiership opportunities at the Dees or a tilt at the Brownlow ??

I say again, we all want him to stay, but we need to respect the player and live with his decision.

I am not ignoring other posts on this thread, but I am thinking Freo or the Saints for Angus.

yeah I got the norm bit wrong, I was thinking of Fritsch I think (or maybe wasn't thinking at all!?)

I don't mind if Gus is considering his options, I just don't know why he would. He is at home, been here from the dark times and can now enjoy the success.  More flags or a tilt at a brownlow?  I don't think any player would consider wanting the latter if the former was a realistic option

I don't think me saying he is important to our team and really wanting him to stay is not showing him respect. 

 

Edited March 1, 20223 yr by DubDee

Given his concussion history he is always not far from being one big hit away from being finished. If he got the chance to maximise his next contract, where ever that is, then good luck to him. I would love for him to stay but his next contract should be his best pay day. Hope it's with us but he has paid his dues and if it's better for him personally to move then good luck to him. I think he is smart enough to love the club but also be pragmatic about his future.

  On 01/03/2022 at 17:29, Left Foot Snap said:

Given his concussion history he is always not far from being one big hit away from being finished. If he got the chance to maximise his next contract, where ever that is, then good luck to him. I would love for him to stay but his next contract should be his best pay day. Hope it's with us but he has paid his dues and if it's better for him personally to move then good luck to him. I think he is smart enough to love the club but also be pragmatic about his future.

Hopefully we can make the best offer to him having been the closest to his development and being aware of what is required to ensure his long term welfare. It could be a test for the club and can give a real message to all players of the genuine features of club loyalty. It's not always about a huge one off pay check.

As a qualified human  resources practitioner (retired) it was always clear cut that security, stability and autonomy, were always the best elements and drivers of worker performance. While recent industrial relations practice seems to concentrate on short term contracts with emphasis on salary, there is much emerging evidence that this may be less effective for productivity and progress of organisations.

  On 28/02/2022 at 12:03, peter connor said:

Nobody's going to argue with that analysis mate. His third quarter in the Granny was crucial.

But you need to think of Gus as a human being, an elite athlete who has options.

Think of Ed Langdon, mate. Really happy to embrace that wing role. Run a marathon every week, get a kick occasionally. Turn a game when you get that opportunity.

While I have the microphone,  can I say I thought Pickett's Granny was one of the best games I have seen him play? Hardly a possession and no goals, but what a game he played. Petracca's amazing dribble goal would not have happened if Kosi had not taken out Dunkley.

Back to the topic, DubDee, can you not see why Angus would be considering his options?

Brayshaw got nowhere near the Norm Smith in 2021. He was playing on a wing FCS !!  In 2018, he got bloody close to the Brownlow. If people on here can't understand why Gus is looking at the next 5-6 years, they have rocks in their heads.

More premiership opportunities at the Dees or a tilt at the Brownlow ??

I say again, we all want him to stay, but we need to respect the player and live with his decision.

I am not ignoring other posts on this thread, but I am thinking Freo or the Saints for Angus.

Disagree with this.If all falls through on transfer to another Club, and there is a lot of big ifs in transferring, he will have to put up with " he had everything at his feet including security and fame potentially where he was."..stay.

  On 28/02/2022 at 03:06, CYB said:

It is inevitable that we will lose someone from the current 22 unless they start accepting unders. For Brayshaw, he is already get highly overpaid for his role/position so at best he’ll get 80-90% of his current contract. Realistically, to keep LJ and keep something aside for Oliver next renewal, he’s going to need to goto 60-70% circa 450K pa. Others approaching renewal will need to do the same.

I think you're greatly underestimating our list management. i would suggest Brayshaw would be on the board as a priority re-signing. 

Watching the Momentum video on the club website, Gus is Melbourne through and through. He is going nowhere.

I don’t get how anyone could think of leaving to “have a crack at a Brownlow” vs stay to try win another premiership with your best mates. I know which one I’d choose. 
 

If it comes down to money, that is a different thing. 
 

I think the wing suits him, now he has warmed to it. He has a good overhead game. His kicking can be hit and miss but generally makes good decisions. He’s brave as anything and is a good inside/outside mix. He’s not explosive enough to challenge our current centre square crop, but saying he’s “just a role player” down plays his very real physical and mental attributes. He’s a gun, and a team man, and worth some coin. 

  On 10/03/2022 at 11:04, bobby1554 said:

He is going nowhere.

But is he prepared to take a pay cut?

  On 10/03/2022 at 11:29, dee-tox said:

But is he prepared to take a pay cut?

Don’t know. Do you have intel into what players are paid and how that fits into the cap?

  On 10/03/2022 at 10:17, Dwight Schrute said:

I think you're greatly underestimating our list management. i would suggest Brayshaw would be on the board as a priority re-signing. 

Yeah maybe- but not at the reported 650k pa

Edited March 10, 20223 yr by CYB

  On 28/02/2022 at 12:03, peter connor said:

Nobody's going to argue with that analysis mate. His third quarter in the Granny was crucial.

But you need to think of Gus as a human being, an elite athlete who has options.

Think of Ed Langdon, mate. Really happy to embrace that wing role. Run a marathon every week, get a kick occasionally. Turn a game when you get that opportunity.

While I have the microphone,  can I say I thought Pickett's Granny was one of the best games I have seen him play? Hardly a possession and no goals, but what a game he played. Petracca's amazing dribble goal would not have happened if Kosi had not taken out Dunkley.

Back to the topic, DubDee, can you not see why Angus would be considering his options?

Brayshaw got nowhere near the Norm Smith in 2021. He was playing on a wing FCS !!  In 2018, he got bloody close to the Brownlow. If people on here can't understand why Gus is looking at the next 5-6 years, they have rocks in their heads.

More premiership opportunities at the Dees or a tilt at the Brownlow ??

I say again, we all want him to stay, but we need to respect the player and live with his decision.

I am not ignoring other posts on this thread, but I am thinking Freo or the Saints for Angus.

None of us really know what Gus is really thinking but one thing is for sure is that he is an all in member of a selfless Team working as one unit to bring about success and frankly I do not believe that he would be playing the Club Unit off against his desire to play on the ball. I guarantee you that the Coaches and more so the players know that they are getting the best out of Gus in the position he plays on the wing.  Gus I feel would absolutely embrace that concept of Team unity and he would know mentally that he is helping the Team effort without ill feeling about where some want him to play. He is bigger than that.

  On 10/03/2022 at 11:34, bobby1554 said:

Don’t know. Do you have intel into what players are paid and how that fits into the cap?

None of us do Bobby, but there's talk his last contract was around 625K after his third finish in the Brownlow. Assumption is he would want similar for his upcoming contract. From a club perspective is it willing to part with that sort money for someone who finished 14th in the B&F last season and has been out of the midfield mix for three years. Also, worth mentioning that Oliver, Jackson, Fritsch and Pickett have big contract renewals coming up and we've put under the squeeze with big contracts to Petracca, Lever, Viney, May, Gawn, TMac,  Salem, BBB, Melksham, etc.

I haven’t heard “homesick” from any of our interstate recruits since Mark and Debra Brayshaw started taking them in. You’d be mad not to keep top quality people like the Brayshaws at our club!