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I have no fkin idea what's going on with Dogga. And I doubt anybody else posting in this thread does either

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    2 minutes ago, BDA said:

    I have no fkin idea what's going on with Dogga. And I doubt anybody else posting in this thread does either

    i do but my lips are sealed

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    6 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

    I'd doubt that a mother would seriously interrupt a son's career forcing change that is not fully necessary.

    As the father of a son around Luke's age and having watched any number of his friends have their chosen career paths derailed by their parents, I'd question that.

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    15 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

    Don't be ridiculous mate, of course our footy department has been in continuous contact with both WC and Freo on any potential trade for Luke and they will be until the day he signs (somewhere).  The FD simply would not be doing their job if they were not. You don't win trades in October you win them in July.

    Also I am not belting Jackson.  I love Dogga!  I am desperate for him to stay,  I think he will be the best player in the comp in future years.  I am just talking a matter of fact.

    You haven't addressed either point. If Jackson nominates Freo, whatever WC have to offer becomes irrelevant, and is not a problem for Freo at all.

    And of course you are belittling Jackson. You are saying that he's too immature to call his own shots. Like most big decisions in life that people make, Jackson is factoring in his family. That's not the same as your assertion that his mum wants him at Freo.

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    2 minutes ago, FlashInThePan said:

    I've got nothing to do with this but I'll answer since I'm here.

    GNF is trying to sell the line that a grown man - Luke Jackson is having his decisions made by his mommy. That implies that he has little or no will of his own and I think most people would find that is quite belittling.

    No mate, I am just saying like many of us......... myself included at the age of 20yo my parents still had a massive influence on my decision making and career choices.  This is normal for a great percentage of 20yo boys.  It is not belittling, its just a matter of fact. 

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    Of course all parents want the best for their children, but I would suggest that the majority of comments here about LJ's mum are totally inappropriate, and probably false, so I'd recommend we leave her out of any further discussions.  

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    4 minutes ago, mo64 said:

    You haven't addressed either point. If Jackson nominates Freo, whatever WC have to offer becomes irrelevant, and is not a problem for Freo at all.

    It is true that if he nominates Freo when Freo has no trade to satisfy us it would make a sticky situation.  No doubt Melb would threaten both Freo and Dogga for a trip to the draft and North Melbourne. 

    The point is there are no winners in this sort of breakdown. I dont believe any of the parties want negotiations to go down this path and as such Luke is far more likely to accept a 2 year MFC deal than risk the draft.

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    13 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

    This is normal for a great percentage of 20yo boys.  It is not belittling, its just a matter of fact. 

    I don't know of any my friends whose parents had an influence on their decision making at 20 years of age and I didn't ask my parents when I enlisted at the age of 17. I think it would be abnormal at the age of 20 if your parents had an influence on decision making, I am quite sure Luke is able to make the final decision himself.

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    I've not heard anything to suggest he's changed his mind, but god i hope it's right. imagine the boost the boys would get heading into a big final

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    On 8/29/2022 at 2:21 PM, sue said:

    I have little idea about trading, but surely a proven quality young player is worth a lot more than a couple of early picks given what a lottery drafting is. 

    Fortunately we have Jason Taylor who makes the most of(almost) every pick, even lower ones. 

    On 8/30/2022 at 7:42 AM, Lord Nev said:

    The LJ budget space becomes the Grundy budget space I suppose.

    Weid is a fair chance to be traded (if we find anyone interested), but his wage off the books won't make any difference at all, he'd be on very very little. Tommo still contracted and handy depth, won't be going anywhere. There may be other players who make way though. But if you think about who we've re-signed the last 2 years and who we have to sign the next 2, it makes sense we'd be mostly looking at the draft for now.

    IMO if Tommo wanted to move on for greater opportunity, and the trade was favorable or at least neutral, we would let him go, especially if a big ruck/ forward was in the deal. 

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    3 minutes ago, monoccular said:

    Fortunately we have Jason Taylor who makes the most of(almost) every pick, even lower ones. 

    IMO if Tommo wanted to move on for greater opportunity, and the trade was favorable or at least neutral, we would let him go, especially if a big ruck/ forward was in the deal. 

    Tomlinson is on about $500k from memory. I think we'd let him go for free if a club would cover even 80% of that.

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    Weids has a year left on his contact but was put up for sale last year and there were no takers........ not even Collingwood. Melb decided to re-sign him than give him away for nothing.  He is unlikely to get any interest this year and thus likely to be on our list in 2023. Currently he has fallen behind JVR and unlikely to see senior footy again in 2022. 

    Tomlinson will request a trade despite being in contract. A early 3rd rounder will do it.

    Bedford out of contract and likely to request a trade due to high competition for his spot. 

    Baker likely to be delisted

    Mitch Brown a 50/50 delist or new contract, may be kept for depth on a one year contract.

    Kade Chandler - contracted and no whispers of him requesting trade

    Jake Melksham - was gone and had even secured a job in finance for 2023 but clearly now highly likely to get another season.

    Fraser Rossman - likely to be delisted

    Jayden Hunt - likely to re-sign but considering offers from other clubs.

    Michael Hibbert - 50/50 retire or one more season

    That's my mail.

    Edited by Grand New Flag

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    27 minutes ago, Pirlo said:

    Tomlinson is on about $500k from memory. I think we'd let him go for free if a club would cover even 80% of that.

    also depending on whether he has been front or rear end loaded

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    5 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

    Weids has a year left on his contact but was put up for sale last year and there were no takers........ not even Collingwood. Melb decided to re-sign him than give him away for nothing.  He is unlikely to get any interest this year and thus likely to be on our list in 2023. Currently he has fallen behind JVR and unlikely to see senior footy again in 2022. 

    Tomlinson will request a trade despite being in contact. A early 3rd rounder will do it.

    Bedford out of contact and likely to request a trade due to high competition for his spot. 

    Baker likely to be delisted

    Mitch Brown a 50/50 delist or new contract, may be kept for depth on a one year contact.

    Kade Chandler - contacted and no whispers of him requesting trade

    Jake Melksham - was gone and had even secured a job in finance for 2023 but clearly now highly likely to get another season.

    Fraser Rossman - likely to be delisted

    Jayden Hunt - likely to re-sign but considering offers from other clubs.

    Michael Hibbert - 50/50 retire or one more season

    That's my mail.

     

    Shows how long I've been on here (despite lack of posts) but I still remember your Josh Kennedy mail.

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    6 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

    That's my mail.

    Your mail isn't worth the paper that you flushed.

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    4 minutes ago, mfcrox said:

     

    Shows how long I've been on here (despite lack of posts) but I still remember your Josh Kennedy mail.

    Yes, I said we made a play for him.  It was true.  I never said we would get him.

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    In fairness to GNF if you’re going to make stuff up, you’re going to give more exciting stuff than Mitch Brown 50/50 to get another year or Hunt listening to other club offers.

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    20 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

    Weids has a year left on his contact but was put up for sale last year and there were no takers........ not even Collingwood. Melb decided to re-sign him than give him away for nothing.  He is unlikely to get any interest this year and thus likely to be on our list in 2023. Currently he has fallen behind JVR and unlikely to see senior footy again in 2022. 

    Tomlinson will request a trade despite being in contact. A early 3rd rounder will do it.

    Bedford out of contact and likely to request a trade due to high competition for his spot. 

    Baker likely to be delisted

    Mitch Brown a 50/50 delist or new contract, may be kept for depth on a one year contact.

    Kade Chandler - contacted and no whispers of him requesting trade

    Jake Melksham - was gone and had even secured a job in finance for 2023 but clearly now highly likely to get another season.

    Fraser Rossman - likely to be delisted

    Jayden Hunt - likely to re-sign but considering offers from other clubs.

    Michael Hibbert - 50/50 retire or one more season

    That's my mail.

    Yeah right, your from who????

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    1 minute ago, Billy said:

    Yeah right, your from who????

    If I told you, you would not believe me anyway.  Regardless clearly I cant tell you this. I would never be privy to this information again and I would destroy a good thing.  Its up to you if you want to believe me or not.  I will however, have a long list of abusive DLs I will be expecting an apology form in October.

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    21 minutes ago, mfcrox said:

     

    Shows how long I've been on here (despite lack of posts) but I still remember your Josh Kennedy mail.

    Every year GNF promised us that we'd land a "Big Fish" under the Roos tenure. All we got was White Bait.

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    2 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

    If I told you, you would not believe me anyway.  Regardless clearly I cant tell you this. I would never be privy to this information again and I would destroy a good thing.  Its up to you if you want to believe me or not.  I will however, have a long list of abusive DLs I will be expecting an apology form in October.

    Apology for what?

    Stating the obvious that Jackson is going home when it's been well reported by other media outlets since May this year? Haha rightio mate..

    Or should we say, rightio Sandra Sully.

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    7 minutes ago, mo64 said:

    Every year GNF promised us that we'd land a "Big Fish" under the Roos tenure. All we got was White Bait.

    Rubbish, I have been pretty much completely absent for at least 5 years. Just could not be bothered telling you my mail only to be abused. For some reason I have felt like taking on the DL abusive bullies this week.  I must be quiet at work!!!!

    For the record saying who we are making a play for should never be read as we are getting.

    In saying all of that if Jackson goes which is likely the Dees will almost certainly get Grundy.  We have made a huge play for him. But this you can read in the MSM and this does not mean its 100%.

    Edited by Grand New Flag

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    35 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

    Weids has a year left on his contact but was put up for sale last year and there were no takers........ not even Collingwood. Melb decided to re-sign him than give him away for nothing.  He is unlikely to get any interest this year and thus likely to be on our list in 2023. Currently he has fallen behind JVR and unlikely to see senior footy again in 2022. 

    Tomlinson will request a trade despite being in contract. A early 3rd rounder will do it.

    Bedford out of contract and likely to request a trade due to high competition for his spot. 

    Baker likely to be delisted

    Mitch Brown a 50/50 delist or new contract, may be kept for depth on a one year contract.

    Kade Chandler - contracted and no whispers of him requesting trade

    Jake Melksham - was gone and had even secured a job in finance for 2023 but clearly now highly likely to get another season.

    Fraser Rossman - likely to be delisted

    Jayden Hunt - likely to re-sign but considering offers from other clubs.

    Michael Hibbert - 50/50 retire or one more season

    That's my mail.

    If I was a postie I would throw it in the bin.

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