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Farewell Luke Jackson

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It looks like he did a boat load of work putting on size over the last 12 months.

I think he might lean out a little over the coming years and start to become a pinch-hit mid/hff

 

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    Should have made a decision earlier his value is dropping by the week. Pies showed he is nothing special yesterday. 

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    Jackson's averaging under 2.5 marks a game over the past eight weeks, and I haven't seen him impact a centre bounce in the past fortnight. He's young with some excellent characteristics, but he'll never be a key forward or a no.1 ruckman. 

    If we can get away with paying him $500K a season for the next three years while he reaches his potential, that's great. If his price is $800K, I'd rather go and get the next Nankervis for half the price and go looking for a key forward prospect in the draft. 

     

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      On 14/06/2022 at 01:19, JimmyGadson said:

    No one is expecting him to dominate. 

    Gahd damn Demonland is the place for wild exaggeration. 

    If two first round picks (1 inside 5 and one inside 15) are up for grabs then we take and run. 

    Genuine marking key forwards are our issue and will be going forward. Stop gap ruckmen are easy to come by and we'll have Gawn for another two or three years. 

    Jackson will be a great player. But he will never be worth two top end first rounders. And that's what West Coast will be willing to pay. 

    This is about sustained success. Not a flash in the pan grand final. I want to see us compete with the big boys for a number of years. A year of pain won't matter if it gives us multiple future years of flag chances. 

     

    I’ve seen enough top 20 picks turn out to be rubbish. Jackson is a generational player and could become anything. I’m holding onto him at all costs and not taking a risk of top picks that might not turn out half as good as I know he will become. 

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      On 14/06/2022 at 03:41, Jaded No More said:

    I’ve seen enough top 20 picks turn out to be rubbish. Jackson is a generational player and could become anything. I’m holding onto him at all costs and not taking a risk of top picks that might not turn out half as good as I know he will become. 

    Not at all costs JNM. There is a point with every  player that the cost exceeds the benefit. The trick is working that out. 

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      On 14/06/2022 at 06:34, old dee said:

    Not at all costs JNM. There is a point with every  player that the cost exceeds the benefit. The trick is working that out. 

    I think it goes without saying that I don't want to keep Jackson if it means we lose Oliver... I mean I would much rather keep him, pay him a little over what he is CURRENTLY worth and take the punt that he will turn into a star player, than give him up for 2 top 20 picks that might end up being 2x Weideman*

     

     

    *I am not having a dig at Weideman, it is not his fault where he was selected in the draft, I am just pointing out that top 20 picks can be Oliver and Jackson and Trac, but equally they can be Watts, Toumpas and Weideman. 

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    I thought he was pretty good v the pies. he was asked to do a lot, he competed, he pushed fwd, he was down back and did more time in the ruck than he probably has before. 

    The kid is probably representative of the whole group. A bit down on form, not a 100% and not having a huge impact. 

    it will turn.

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      On 14/06/2022 at 06:44, Jaded No More said:

    I think it goes without saying that I don't want to keep Jackson if it means we lose Oliver... I mean I would much rather keep him, pay him a little over what he is CURRENTLY worth and take the punt that he will turn into a star player, than give him up for 2 top 20 picks that might end up being 2x Weideman*

     

     

    *I am not having a dig at Weideman, it is not his fault where he was selected in the draft, I am just pointing out that top 20 picks can be Oliver and Jackson and Trac, but equally they can be Watts, Toumpas and Weideman. 

    I don't disagree, I have a bad feeling he is off back to WA. The big difference is we now have good selectors. Even the very best still have failures as you say. 

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      On 14/06/2022 at 06:52, old dee said:

    I don't disagree, I have a bad feeling he is off back to WA. The big difference is we now have good selectors. Even the very best still have failures as you say. 

    haha Old Dee - if you have a bad feeling he's off to WA, then I'm finally convinced he will stay.

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    He’s back in WA today with JVR enjoying his bye break. Hopefully he comes back refreshed and has a bigger impact on the second half of the year.

    Lets get that contract signed soon so it doesn’t become a distraction and effect the team.

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      On 14/06/2022 at 06:56, Neil Crompton said:

    haha Old Dee - if you have a bad feeling he's off to WA, then I'm finally convinced he will stay.

    Why no signature yet? 

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      On 14/06/2022 at 06:58, old dee said:

    Why no signature yet? 

    Jacko indecisive on which colour crayon he'll use

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      On 14/06/2022 at 06:58, old dee said:

    Why no signature yet? 

    It is either something to do with the CBA being negotiated and they are waiting for clarity on salary cap etc or he is genuinely up in the air.

    Either way its not worth losing any sleep over.

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    He was pushed around by Cameron and Cox. Taller, stronger men.

    But overall he’s very Brodie Grundy and I’m not sure anyones going to make the mistake of a huge contact for a guy like him again surely?

    To get the most out of him he has to play like a midfielder in the ruck which means less long down the line and more link up play. Given our side is awful at that right now it’s hardly a surprise he’s struggling. He was trying to find space to be a target whilst Cox had a field day down the line.

    When it comes to his forward line play it’s just hard to ask a lot from a young guy who wasn’t drafted for that role and has had so little experience.

    I see the medium term value of him leaving and us finding a proper key forward and a cheap back up ruck. But short term he pairs with Max and long term he takes over from Max. I’d hate to lose him unless we got incredible replacements. 

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    Let’s also remember that he had Covid not too long ago and Iike Sparrow and ANB has been a little flat since. You just don’t know how Covid has impacted him. Not everyone bounces right back. 
     

    Ben Brown had Covid a couple of weeks earlier and this week he looked the most lively I’ve seen him since. 

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      On 14/06/2022 at 08:21, Jaded No More said:

    Let’s also remember that he had Covid not too long ago and Iike Sparrow and ANB has been a little flat since. You just don’t know how Covid has impacted him. Not everyone bounces right back. 
     

    Ben Brown had Covid a couple of weeks earlier and this week he looked the most lively I’ve seen him since. 

    Just to clarify, iirc Brown didn't get covid, he was a close contact.  The 7 day isolation rule for close contacts was abolished a few days after his iso ended.  He didn't play when he came out of iso because he had had no training and the team had already flown to Adelaide.  Had he flown when allowed out of iso he would have arrived just a few hours before the game.

    To be sure I reckon quite a few of our players are still suffering the affects of illness or injuries.

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      On 14/06/2022 at 07:16, COVID Dan said:

    It is either something to do with the CBA being negotiated and they are waiting for clarity on salary cap etc or he is genuinely up in the air.

    Either way its not worth losing any sleep over.

    I try not to worry about things I have no control over. I am more successful some time than others.

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    Hope illness by our boys puts a few armchairs back in their sanitariums.

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    With maybe Max out with injury it will be good to see how good he is on his own. So far he’s been travelling in Max’s slipstream under little pressure.

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      On 14/06/2022 at 08:27, Lucifers Hero said:

    Just to clarify, iirc Brown didn't get covid, he was a close contact.  The 7 day isolation rule for close contacts was abolished a few days after his iso ended.  He didn't play when he came out of iso because he had had no training and the team had already flown to Adelaide.  Had he flown when allowed out of iso he would have arrived just a few hours before the game.

    To be sure I reckon quite a few of our players are still suffering the affects of illness or injuries.

    His whole household had Covid. He may well have ended up getting it too. Could be right tho and he was just a close contact at the time. 

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      On 14/06/2022 at 09:12, John Crow Batty said:

    With maybe Max out with injury it will be good to see how good he is on his own. So far he’s been travelling in Max’s slipstream under little pressure.

    Agree. Could be just the thing he needs to break out. 

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    I’m sure they have. Not likely to offer a rubbish deal Sam

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