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3 hours ago, Skuit said:

Nothing mentioned so far in this thread remotely bothers me. I love fancy cheese. I buy it with my Basics Card. Never been to the snow, and don't have my driver's licence let alone own a Range Rover (I'm currently borrowing my mum's bicycle). I'm not sure why anyone would remotely care about overworn stereotypes, delivered by toothless morons eating meat pies.  

The only thing that riles me is outsider perceptions that our current team has been built on the back of an AFL leg-up, through priority picks and free agency overcompensation, when it often feels quite the opposite. The only decent AFL-backing we have been given is the one never mentioned - the installation of Peter Jackson, which then brought us Roos. 

We received pick 3 as compensation for James Frawley, as per the formula and in a demonstration of why the system was built as it was. Buddy Franklin is irrelevant. We haven't benefited from free agency player-wise, outside of an injured Tomlinson. Our last priority pick was Scully in 2009, which we have since parlayed, as did the Dogs with 2005 priority selection Ryan Griffen. 

Meanwhile, our opponents this week were handed a free number one last year, and have another top-three talent arriving via father-son this year. (They also landed Treloar for the equivalent of about pick 60). Our first real NGA prospect is now likely off the table. We have Jack Viney as a F/S (26), while they have Tom Liberatore (41), as well as Hunter (49), Cordy and Wallis.

All done and said, we will have an equal number of former top-ten picks running around on Saturday. I expect once the feel-good factor wears off, this narrative of AFL hand-outs will start to become more prominent once again. I don't recall a sentiment of unfair advantage around the Cats and Hawks dynasties, and they benefitted from F/S and priorities way more than us. 

 

Me and me mates do not recognise Horethorn's recent premierships as the side was clearly developed with the aid of tanking. Geelong had the benefit of massive F/S. Good luck to them. We don't recognise Brisvagas's three flags as they picked the eyes out of Fitzroy to achieve that. Like Footscray of today, Sydney won their 2005 premiership with the aid of favourable umpiring - so that doesn't count. And West Coke in the 1990's doesn't count as basically they had the whole of W.A. as their recruiting zone. So a state side - doesn't count. 

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6 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Well, the good news is that win or lose, "57 years since our last flag" will be heard no more. Although 58 years is going to wear thin very quickly.

It'll wear real thin by sunday morning if we get done.
I'll go numb with the horrors replaying in my mind for a long time.
I'm still mentally scarred from our last 2 GFs and all the stuff in between.
We as a club and supporter base need this win.
Barring some disaster we should get it.
Been on top most of the year, got a fully fit list in peak form with guns all over the ground.
Opportunities like this do not come around very often.
Gotta take it.



 

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2 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Me and me mates do not recognise Horethorn's recent premierships as the side was clearly developed with the aid of tanking. Geelong had the benefit of massive F/S. Good luck to them. We don't recognise Brisvagas's three flags as they picked the eyes out of Fitzroy to achieve that. Like Footscray of today, Sydney won their 2005 premiership with the aid of favourable umpiring - so that doesn't count. And West Coke in the 1990's doesn't count as basically they had the whole of W.A. as their recruiting zone. So a state side - doesn't count. 

And West Coke also had chemical assistance I believe. Been going on for years.

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3 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Me and me mates do not recognise Horethorn's recent premierships as the side was clearly developed with the aid of tanking. Geelong had the benefit of massive F/S. Good luck to them. We don't recognise Brisvagas's three flags as they picked the eyes out of Fitzroy to achieve that. Like Footscray of today, Sydney won their 2005 premiership with the aid of favourable umpiring - so that doesn't count. And West Coke in the 1990's doesn't count as basically they had the whole of W.A. as their recruiting zone. So a state side - doesn't count. 

Sydney also had COLA and the best QCs in the business making sure they could field their best side ;)

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The Glen Bartlett 'soft' comments last year being the reason for him being pushed out ... and recently Kate Roffey commenting on the difference she is making and how she would have done some things differently to Glen ... a little more class and respect for some ones achievements please

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I'm stick and tired of opposition supporters saying please give us a chance.

Nah not really.

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18 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Me and me mates do not recognise Horethorn's recent premierships as the side was clearly developed with the aid of tanking. Geelong had the benefit of massive F/S. Good luck to them. We don't recognise Brisvagas's three flags as they picked the eyes out of Fitzroy to achieve that. Like Footscray of today, Sydney won their 2005 premiership with the aid of favourable umpiring - so that doesn't count. And West Coke in the 1990's doesn't count as basically they had the whole of W.A. as their recruiting zone. So a state side - doesn't count. 

So outside of Richmond (which I still can't bring myself to rate as a decent team), between me, you, BillyBeane (COLA mention) and MT64 (ongoing West Coke), the last legitimate premiership was achieved by Collingwood in 2010. But they also had a truck-load of F/S and priority bonuses (including Daisy Thomas, Heath Shaw, Travis Cloke and Josh Fraser). Maybe Port's 2004 triumph is the purest example, though I have no recollections of what Port received in draft concessions on entry into the AFL?  


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1 hour ago, Skuit said:

So outside of Richmond (which I still can't bring myself to rate as a decent team), between me, you, BillyBeane (COLA mention) and MT64 (ongoing West Coke), the last legitimate premiership was achieved by Collingwood in 2010. But they also had a truck-load of F/S and priority bonuses (including Daisy Thomas, Heath Shaw, Travis Cloke and Josh Fraser). Maybe Port's 2004 triumph is the purest example, though I have no recollections of what Port received in draft concessions on entry into the AFL?  

I can guarantee if they played extra time, St Kilda would have one. That’s two grand finals they’ve won on the benefit of now non-existent rules (drawn games.)

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