Tasmanian AFL Team

[MadAsHell 4,217]

While I agree, the optics don't look great spending this much money on a stadium it seems a lot of people don't want when there's other areas that money could go into. I do believe it's the right call.

Belreive is a major hassle to get to which is only accessible by bus really. And the recent construction of Optus Stadium and redevelopment/move of the Adelaide teams to Adelaide Oval has shown that having the grounds close to the heart of the city totally revitalises it and pumps life in.

The Feds are still less than 12 months into their public housing plan to fix the homeless problem, so this is something that needs some time take shape. I do hope something is done about finding another site or even incorporating the Indigenous site into where the Stadium will be. It's a bad look otherwise.

Hopefully they do get a roof and can play AFL, Big Bash and international ODI's and T20's out of it. Belrieve can remain the home of cricket Tasmania and play Shield and Test cricket. Soccer can co fund a redevelopment of North Hobart and keep out of the new Stadium.

[Demonstone 23,549]

I don't see it as an either/or proposition.

There's no reason the Government can't help fund the new stadium as well as addressing the housing issue.

[Roost it far 10,098]

1 hour ago, Ouch! said:

Except the Fed govt has a public housing program that it is already working on. The other options for stadiums is what exactly?  Bellerive?  Has no parking options anywhere near, and it's a suburban ground, and is in a suburb that has a disproportionate number of NIMBYs. Where else? UTAS Stadium?  please if we put an AFL team outside of the capital it will never work. Nth Hobart? Lauderdale? Glenorchy?  where are you talking about other options??, but regardless the pricing is what the pricing is to build a stadium.

How much is the MCC going to spend on the new development for the MCG? is that needed?  how much will that cost? https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-mcg-redevelopment-plans-photos-capacity-barbecues-hotel-renders-when-will-it-happen/news-story/091187d45cef48168dc87dac718ac5e6  I mean seriously $1billion to get the capacity up by 6-8k... and for what? rooftop lighting and BBQs?  How much social housing could the Andrew's Govt achieve with that? No one seemingly complains about the costs of this type of thing in Melbourne.

The AFL Grassroots funding is coming as a part of this whole arrangement, but if the pinnacle is for our players to just be picked up and play on the mainland... it's not going to work, because it has not worked ever!

Look at the Jack Jumpers, it took that team to be here, part of Hobart, part of Tasmania for the growth to occur. 46% growth in club teams and growth in 2 seasons.... That wasn't happening until the team arrived. This stadium has govt, corporate, and AFL funding. ALL major works such as this has that type of arrangement, so yeah it does kinda sound familiar cos thats how things work in the real world, rather than in an 'ideal world'.

The stadium doesn't need to be built on the waterfront on seriously unstable land. The total cost will go beyond a billion dollars. This is all about the corporate gravy train. Whilst I agree the introduction of a Tasmanian team in and of itself will promote the grassroots you won't see the growth that BB has had. Anyway let's agree to disagree on this as what's really important is how it affects the sport as a whole. For mine a Tasmanian team is a positive for the game and the competition. Personally I'd prefer we stayed at 18 teams and GCS were folded but that ain't going to happen so we'll likely end up with a 20th team. People say the talent pool will be smaller but if you look at the comp this year there's plenty of talent and probably 5-6 teams all in with a chance atm. 

[daisycutter 30,004]

should have built the stadium on mt. wellington. the view is out of this world (when the clouds clear)

and a bonus when sea levels rise

[Ouch! 2,276]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

should have built the stadium on mt. wellington. the view is out of this world (when the clouds clear)

and a bonus when sea levels rise

Would have been a great idea.... except the again, we have a few NIMBYs in Tas, and they blocked the cable car prosposal,... apparently the view of the mountain wasn't allowed to have a cable car.  

[Ouch! 2,276]

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

The stadium doesn't need to be built on the waterfront on seriously unstable land. The total cost will go beyond a billion dollars. This is all about the corporate gravy train. Whilst I agree the introduction of a Tasmanian team in and of itself will promote the grassroots you won't see the growth that BB has had. Anyway let's agree to disagree on this as what's really important is how it affects the sport as a whole. For mine a Tasmanian team is a positive for the game and the competition. Personally I'd prefer we stayed at 18 teams and GCS were folded but that ain't going to happen so we'll likely end up with a 20th team. People say the talent pool will be smaller but if you look at the comp this year there's plenty of talent and probably 5-6 teams all in with a chance atm. 

I don't necessarily disagree or agree on the location, but lets face it, The Stadium could not have been built ANYWHERE in Hobart with the argument on the funding coming into play, or people claiming that the funding should be used elsewhere. 

I also don't disagree that 18 teams, or more specifically even numbers of teams is a better fit, but the AFL will now accelerate the 20th team coming in. with 2 extra teams, I can see the season being pared back to a 19 game season, or division/conferences. However, and I think you agree, that argument is should not be put at the feet of the Tasmanian team.  

Agree that the talent isn't the concern either! 👍

[Orion 332]

If I was the federal government I would of said to the AFL "You just signed a TV rights deal worth 4.5 billion and you're coming cap in hand to us for 240 million. Sorry pay for it yourself"

[Rocknroll 1,010]

 

[Demonland 74,340]

Are we cool with the Devils nickname? Bit of prison bar vibes.

[DEE fence 5,051]

The obvious risk for the federal government is building a stadium that is never used properly the way some countries do with Olympic venues. We (Australians) are just not like that, we're the modern equivalent of Romans, we like our (sourdough) bread and (AFL) circuses. Even without the political spin the business case is pretty strong that it will drive economic growth in the area. I also don't mind the government money as football is thank god, not privately owned. It's not America where club owners hold a metaphorical (maybe they hold real ones nowadays?) gun to the governments' heads demanding public subsidies of privately owned enterprises or they will move the team.  

 

[Jaded No More 68,976]

On 4/29/2023 at 11:09 AM, Ouch! said:

Why? No offence but you really should stop looking at this from a Melb/Mainland centric view of 'success'. This post is probably a bit of a wider perspective for several of the people this week being incredibly pessimistic about this announcement.

I have a question for you. 
You’re a Melbourne supporter and I assume member of some type? Would you switch to support Tassie? Will they be your second team? Will you buy a membership? 
 

I am just really curious what will the Tasmanians who already have a strong bond to an existing club will do. 

[rjay 25,424]

12 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Are we cool with the Devils nickname? Bit of prison bar vibes.

No

...and it's noting like the prison bar vibes.

They would have this name 24/7 not just for an occasional theme round.

[Jaded No More 68,976]

14 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Are we cool with the Devils nickname? Bit of prison bar vibes.

If they have a green jumper which I suspect they will, then meh. 
We are Melbourne. First and foremost this is what we are. Melbourne. 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,951]

Are they Tasmanians or Taswegians? 

[Nascent 9,345]

Tassie Devils is a given unless WB kick up a stink about it. Doesn't bother me so long as they focus the branding around the animal.

I'm more curious on their jumper design, will probably be green but I'm hoping it's not how the U18s look.

 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,951]

I think it'll be nice to have a little green on an AFL guernsey again after Fremantle dropped the colour. Although the Dockers one would look really good if the middle vee on the front was mint green instead of white. 

[Demonstone 23,549]

The Demons versus The Devils would be a hell of a match.

[daisycutter 30,004]

41 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Are we cool with the Devils nickname? Bit of prison bar vibes.

it's the devil in the detail

[58er 6,871]

On 4/29/2023 at 1:37 PM, deva5610 said:

I mocked up a jumper. Have at it! :D

Terrible T on front Reduce in size and horrible yellow as well. 

[Demonsone 2,056]

It’s probably been mentioned but is there an issue with their name Devils vs Demons?

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

Just now, Demonsone said:

It’s probably been mentioned but is there an issue with their name Devils vs Demons?

Curious myself … I reckon there is..but I’m thinking they use the animal moniker and not the satanic one, so probably no problem

[Clintosaurus 7,953]

The map guernsey has to be worn at least once a season. It is magnificent.

[layzie 34,528]

I like the idea of the Tassie Scorpions 

[daisycutter 30,004]

could be the tassy monas?  or tasmonians?

[TooheysBlueDemons 29]

I hope the next gen of tassie talent coming through in the next 10 years is good for them.

Had they come in instead of either Suns/GWS they could have had a team with young Benny Brown, Riewoldt, Howe, Mihocek, Pearce, Nankervis, Mitch Robinson starting up.