On 09/06/2021 at 08:03, big_red_fire_engine said:

Maynard would not cost the earth in trade or coin. Is the perfect Hibberd/Jetta replacement. Is the right age bracket and style of player we like. Like Hibbo has some attacking bent but is a good not great kick but can play a serious lock down role something that we have lost with Jetta and will lose with Hibbo. Also gives us flex for Rivers to develop and possibly play midfield in stints in future years. 

Did you miss Hibberd schooling Dusty Martin?

  On 09/06/2021 at 13:03, Undeeterred said:

Did you miss Hibberd schooling Dusty Martin?

Hibbert's playing great footy. Hopefully gets a premiership medallion. 

Need to think about his successor though ... he's 31. If he plays on, he'd probably only have one more season in him.  

Maynard is good. Hard at it and good intensity. Some of his recent turnovers from shank kicks have been concerning though. 
he is not someone I’d think of to target unless if we had to give up very little. 

  On 09/06/2021 at 07:11, dee-tox said:

Definitely worth a look at the right price. He's the perfect age and has plenty of experience. But I agree with others that you shouldn't be paying too much salary or draft picks for a back pocket.

Not sure how far Deakyn Smith or Bowie are away from a debut. Defending at AFL level is, of course, much different to under 18s. And there's always Lockhart who just needs a decent run at it.

 

I believe we need a player of Locky's size and pace and run and carry for the really slippery crumbers  like Betts Tippa  and Cody Weightman and Daniels and Hill of GWS. 

Hibbo has done a great job on Martin Cameron and the Dogs forward types.

Definirely another one year contract in 2022.

  On 09/06/2021 at 00:39, JimmyGadson said:

Interesting timing with Buckley stepping down but last week I was thinking about a Hibberd/Jetta replacement going forward and was thinking of Maynard and whether or not we'd have a crack at him, especially now given the unrest at the pies and with Buckley stepping down.

I've heard there a few unhappy mature-age players there and I know Maynard is friendly with some of our guys, Trac in particular from Metro days and obviously his brother Corey was on our list for a number of years.

Contracted until next end of next year but thought I'd throw it out there as I think he'd be a great fit and replacement for those guys I mentioned. 

Tough, competitive and in the right system like ours I think he'd flourish.

Thoughts?

Not necessary, given we get a fit Tomlinson back next year and Petty certainly doesn’t deserve to be dropped. 

I like Maynard but I believe bolstering our midfield is more of a priority 

  On 09/06/2021 at 21:45, FarNorthernD said:

I like Maynard but I believe bolstering our midfield is more of a priority 

I’d like a Kennedy-esque FF and another Langdon too. 

  On 09/06/2021 at 08:08, Marty said:

The way Collingwood leaked that the leadership group weren’t happy with Trelor is unforgivable. Whether it’s true or not is beside the point. Threw them under the bus!

Couldn't half tell anyway. same as that bloke who went to TWSNBN.

  On 09/06/2021 at 23:01, willmoy said:

Couldn't half tell anyway. same as that bloke who went to TWSNBN.

Likes kicking but not looking...

  On 09/06/2021 at 02:08, MadAsHell said:

While I rate Maynard, I don't see him as a priority, especially given what he'd likely cost us in a trade and in salary cap.

Jetta's replacement should come from one of Bowey, Deakyn Smith or even Lockhart.

As for Hibberd's replacement, we still have both Joel Smith and Marty Hore on the list.  And even Gus is an option for that role. He's shown himself to be capable in the backline, and we could possibly get another wingman like Richards from the Dogs for less which would allow Brayshaw to potentially move to the backline to fill the void left by Hibberd?

we're in a premiership window... if the price is right we should be loading up on anyone available who improves our side, definitely not looking forcheaper alternatives if he's available imo

Hope he has a crap game Monday, but it will give us a chance to asses him. 
Not quite sure where he would fit in at the moment. 
Like everyone, if the price is right, worthy of consideration.  

  On 09/06/2021 at 13:09, bingers said:

Hibbert's playing great footy. Hopefully gets a premiership medallion. 

Need to think about his successor though ... he's 31. If he plays on, he'd probably only have one more season in him.  

I have to admit, I think I misread the original post and thought it said Hibberd wasn’t a lockdown defender. Not sure it did in hindsight 

  On 09/06/2021 at 16:53, Dees2014 said:

Not necessary, given we get a fit Tomlinson back next year and Petty certainly doesn’t deserve to be dropped. 

Turner the new interceptor  has also been chosen but it's a smaller Locky that should be given a chance to kind the smalls of the opposition. 
Hibbo is playing well and warrants a year extension for 2022 some time this  year.. 

Maynard wouldn’t get a game in our 2022 defence. Keep Hibbo on, slot Tomlinson back in, give opportunities to Lockhart, Hore and Joel Smith and develop Bowey and Deakyn Smith. We also have the two recent draftees to consider.

  On 09/06/2021 at 21:45, FarNorthernD said:

I like Maynard but I believe bolstering our midfield is more of a priority 

How about prising Scott Pendlebery away from them as a free agent at the end of the year?

Think he'd be a great addition to our team.

Play him as a half forward to provide silver service inside 50 delivery and bursts in the midfeild distributing the ball to the outside. 

Would also be great mentor to guys like Sparrow, Jordon and co, and even guys like Clarry, Vines, Trac, Harmesy and Gus could learn some new tricks off him.

Peddles gets the oppertunity to live out a childhood dream of playing in a Demons premiership.  That has to be an attractive prospect compared to more misery at The Filth.

  On 09/06/2021 at 02:08, MadAsHell said:

As for Hibberd's replacement, we still have both Joel Smith and Marty Hore on the list. 

Yeah, I get where you are going with this, as I do see some potential in their respective footballing abilities, but do wounder if their bodies will ever really allow them to be the sort of reliable contributor to the side that Hibbo has been.

My impression is Maynard has been pretty sound over the journey in terms of getting out on the park.

  On 10/06/2021 at 21:41, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

How about prising Scott Pendlebery away from them as a free agent at the end of the year?

Think he'd be a great addition to our team.

Play him as a half forward to provide silver service inside 50 delivery and bursts in the midfeild distributing the ball to the outside. 

Would also be great mentor to guys like Sparrow, Jordon and co, and even guys like Clarry, Vines, Trac, Harmesy and Gus could learn some new tricks off him.

Peddles gets the oppertunity to live out a childhood dream of playing in a Demons premiership.  That has to be an attractive prospect compared to more misery at The Filth.

The odds of that are zero. He’s the games record holder for captains at Collingwood. There’s no way he’s going anywhere, childhood dreams or not.

  On 10/06/2021 at 20:38, ProperDee said:

Maynard wouldn’t get a game in our 2022 defence. Keep Hibbo on, slot Tomlinson back in, give opportunities to Lockhart, Hore and Joel Smith and develop Bowey and Deakyn Smith. We also have the two recent draftees to consider.

I’d have Maynard over any of the first three in a heartbeat. Joel Smith has proven he isn’t up to the grade at the least, whereas at least Maynard has smashed it for years in a top 4 team

  On 09/06/2021 at 02:09, Tom Dyson said:

I'd be happy to stick with Marty Hore, that bloke played really well in what was a shocking 2019 side. Imagine how well he could play with this defence around him. 

Hore was a solid trier in 2019 that took some really good intercept marks and his reading of the play was something that Lever would've been impressed with. But his disposal really let him down at times and I thought he was one of those players that was caught between being too good for VFL and a touch off belonging at AFL level as a week in-week out competent player.

He'll be good for depth next year though.

Edited June 11, 20213 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

  On 11/06/2021 at 00:32, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Hore was a solid trier in 2019 that took some really good intercept marks and his reading of the play was something that Lever would've been impressed with. But his disposal really let him down at times and I thought he was one of those players that was caught between being too good for VFL and a touch off belonging at AFL level as a week in-week out competent player.

He'll be good for depth next year though.

From my own observations on game days, I agree with your statement that his disposal let him down at times, but I also believe he was highly rated for his kicking within the playing/coaching group.

From recollection there was that pearler of a goal he kicked from 50m on the run to put us in the position of stealing the win/draw we scraped against GC in 2019, which would support high quality kicking ability.

Our kicking as a team has improved out of sight this season as a team and I do wounder if playing in the current environment Hore would similaly benifit from the increased confidence and/or lesser pressure on the ball carrier that our improvement in systems and structures seem to be delivering?

  On 11/06/2021 at 00:02, Undeeterred said:

The odds of that are zero. He’s the games record holder for captains at Collingwood. There’s no way he’s going anywhere, childhood dreams or not.

I guess Jordan Lewis would never leave Hawthorn either.

People realise our first pick in the next draft is 30-something right?

  On 11/06/2021 at 00:32, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Hore was a solid trier in 2019 that took some really good intercept marks and his reading of the play was something that Lever would've been impressed with. But his disposal really let him down at times and I thought he was one of those players that was caught between being too good for VFL and a touch off belonging at AFL level as a week in-week out competent player.

He'll be good for depth next year though.

Thats a good point, I can't say my memory of how effective his disposal was is very clear. 

A quick stats search reveals some interesting stuff. (all are averages from the afl website) 

Disposal efficiency: 69.3 (considered below average) 

Intercept marks: 2.4 (elite) 

Intercept possessions: 7.1 (elite) 

Spoils: 4.2 (elite)

Contested one on one defence: 2.1 (elite) 
 

So yes, you're very much correct in saying that his disposal needs tidying up. But his defensive game all round puts forward a very compelling case that he could be more than just depth next year. Hopefully he gets a good run at it without injuries.   

  On 11/06/2021 at 00:02, Undeeterred said:

The odds of that are zero. He’s the games record holder for captains at Collingwood. There’s no way he’s going anywhere, childhood dreams or not.

...but yes I get where you are comming from.

I did read an article on Pendelbery in the past few months that was stating he was looking to step down from their captaincy and looking forward to mentoring the next captain comming through, so yes that would suggest he's pretty invested.  Mind you this was all before the Collingwood board erupted in civil war and Buckley pulled the pin too.

But he'll be pretty old at the end of the season and Collingwood will be looking to fee up.list spaces and probably cap space etc for rebuilding and also with a new coach, new board, new list manager and new club direction overall, who knows, he may change his tune all of a sudden.

  On 11/06/2021 at 06:55, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

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But he'll be pretty old at the end of the season and Collingwood will be looking to fee up.list spaces and probably cap space etc for rebuilding and also with a new coach, new board, new list manager and new club direction overall, who knows, he may change his tune all of a sudden.

The Cats only had 10 No. 30+ year olds playing last night - they may now have their eyes on another one for next year.