CHANGES: Rd 05 vs Hawthorn

[dazzledavey36 54,951]

1 minute ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

In Petty and Hibberd

Out May and Jordon

Jordon sub. 

Don't mind that Red. But are we losing an extra midfield rotation by dropping Jordon.

[BrisbaneDemon 1,572]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mcdonald-won-t-swing-back-as-petty-firms-to-replace-wounded-may-20210411-p57iaw.html
 

 

[BDA 22,755]

Melks has to play next week. He wasn;t great today for sure, but there is no point giving someone a run and then dropping them next game. Completely defeats the purpose

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

53 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

You don't change a winning side unless forced. 

May out

Petty or Daw in. 

Straight swap for another full back. 

 

Except that we made a change after last week's win, and won again?

I've never understood that mantra. 

Clearly, it doesn't add up.

 

[RalphiusMaximus 6,054]

Just now, JimmyGadson said:

 

Except that we made a change after last week's win, and won again?

I've never understood that mantra. 

Clearly, it doesn't add up.

That wasn't a change, it was a reshuffle.  We swapped one of the players on the ground for the substitute.  Still the same set of players, just a different one starting with a vest on.  ?

[DemonLad5 1,642]

In: Petty, Hibberd 

Out: May, Jetta 

Jordan the sub instead of Sparrow

[binman 43,020]

No chance jetts gets dropped. He was fantastic today.

On a day for small forwards, the type of players that often score the bulk of opposition goals,  none of theirs did any damage.

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

17 minutes ago, BrisbaneDemon said:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mcdonald-won-t-swing-back-as-petty-firms-to-replace-wounded-may-20210411-p57iaw.html
 

 

Keen to see Petty get the gig.. was in my best 22 preseason.    BIG FAN.

[binman 43,020]

20 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

 

Except that we made a change after last week's win, and won again?

I've never understood that mantra. 

Clearly, it doesn't add up.

 

What doesn't add up?

Obviously it happens that unforced changes are sometimes made to winning sides.

For example a clear best 22 player coming back from injury (like buddy or melk this week).

Or perhaps a player breaking team rules, or some other misdemeanour.

Or perhaps after a scrappy win against an easy beat.

Or just coz.

But as a general rule, coaches are loathe to make changes to winning sides. It has always been thus. A mantra if you will.

 

Edited April 11, 2021 by binman

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,765]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Melksham should never have been inCheesy

Yep. You don't have to convince me. He has skills but just doesn't give the required effort.

[Pates 9,660]

May will be missing regardless you'd think. Whether it's concussion or something more serious I can't see him being right for the Hawks. Definitely time to bring Petty in, does that mean we shift Tommo as our key defender or have Petty take the main role initially and make sure our zone is well set up for Lever?

Daw could be an option as well, bring him in with BBB and perhaps look at shifting TMac into a defensive role.

Also does Melksham keep his spot, for me he didn't do a whole lot apart from kicking his easy goal. I'd say give him another week to give him a chance to get some form but he got so many chances last year. I think he get's one more week but thin ice.

I thought Jetta was good, didn't do a hell of a lot wrong. The argument keeps coming though are we better with him or Hibberd in?

[Roost it far 8,291]

Out May

in Petty

[McQueen 17,864]

1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Yeah I was still angry after the win when I posted that, have calmed down now.

[Skuit 10,031]

Seems I was the only one wildly frustrated with TMac today and pleased that Ben Brown was waiting in the wings. I did think that Tomald played reasonably well in round one (with steadily diminishing returns ever since), so now I don't know if it's confirmation bias or not. Out TMac and probably May. In Brown and Majak. 

And no disrespect, but our other 150-plus games veterans in Nev, Nat and Melksham can no longer be relied upon in clutch situations either (e.g. finals), and should probably be transitioned out sooner rather than later. It's not the same at other clubs, but veteran players at other clubs haven't been through the same as what ours have. 

We have coverage for the above-mentioned players, and our maturity is beginning to shine without them. I'm also confident that our next generation of veterans will continue to perform and lead the club and nurture our recruits in a way that our current ones haven't been able to due to a multitude of circumstances.  

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

IN : PETTY, HIBBERD

OUT: MAY, SPARROW

 

Hibberd the sub.

[Pates 9,660]

3 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Seems I was the only one wildly frustrated with TMac today and pleased that Ben Brown was waiting in the wings. I did think that Tomald played reasonably well in round one (with steadily diminishing returns ever since), so now I don't know if it's confirmation bias or not. Out TMac and probably May. In Brown and Majak. 

And no disrespect, but our other 150-plus games veterans in Nev, Nat and Melksham can no longer be relied upon in clutch situations either (e.g. finals), and should probably be transitioned out sooner rather than later. It's not the same at other clubs, but veteran players at other clubs haven't been through the same as what ours have. 

We have coverage for the above-mentioned players, and our maturity is beginning to shine without them. I'm also confident that our next generation of veterans will continue to perform and lead the club and nurture our recruits in a way that our current ones haven't been able to due to a multitude of circumstances.  

I initially had thought that, but I also did think he competed at contests to bring the ball to ground when marking the ball just wasn't going to happen. But he actually did take quite a few marks and played a connector role rather that a forward kicking goals. I think his output needs to be better but 2 good games, one more last week, and one ok-ish today. I think he keeps his spot for next week.

Any word on whether we're going to bring BBB straight in after one Casey match?

[Earl Hood 6,086]

Basically we need a replacement for May. That would be Petty for me. Then the Jordan, Swallow and Jetta positions are all up for grabs but do we have suitable replacements? Not convinced. And would love one of our big forwards to come in but don’t believe they are ready yet. Weid didn’t get a kick and BB only played a half in a practice match. 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

Early forecast for this coming Sunday is showers.  Hope thats wrong, we have a massive score and win in us just need a dry deck.

[Skuit 10,031]

5 minutes ago, Pates said:

I initially had thought that, but I also did think he competed at contests to bring the ball to ground when marking the ball just wasn't going to happen. But he actually did take quite a few marks and played a connector role rather that a forward kicking goals. I think his output needs to be better but 2 good games, one more last week, and one ok-ish today. I think he keeps his spot for next week.

Any word on whether we're going to bring BBB straight in after one Casey match?

Took the equal-most marks on the ground in a stat that I think is super-important for us. But it's what he does after those marks - and moreso when he's trying to win the ball in tight situations but mostly just gets in the way - that just seems a poor fit with what the rest of our team is doing right now. 

[picket fence 17,172]

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Think we may go small next week -

Out: May, Jordon
In: Hibberd, Sparrow (as a starter)

Doubt Melk gets dropped but understand the calls for him to go

Sparrow only played 17% less game time than Jordon, somehow. 

I was very outspoken about Melksham getting a Gig today and he is a weak link . Given the way we are playing you cannot have a bloke that is not of that ilk.As iterated he needs to force selectors to pick him. He didn't and to my mind he should not play until he displays the grunt expected!

[picket fence 17,172]

Given what I saw yesterday BB Is teasingly close very tantalisingly so!

[Go the Biff 3,434]

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Given what I saw yesterday BB Is teasingly close very tantalisingly so!

Goodwin reckons a few weeks away for he & Weid. Wants them fit and in form before throwing them in the team. That's an approach that should let them hit the ground running when they resume at AFL level

[defuture15 899]

BB back for Hobart?

[Nasher 33,616]

1 hour ago, BrisbaneDemon said:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mcdonald-won-t-swing-back-as-petty-firms-to-replace-wounded-may-20210411-p57iaw.html
 

 

Yep, this was out of Goodwin’s presser. Was asked if TMac would move back and the answer was just “nup”.

[Nasher 33,616]

1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Yeah I was still angry after the win when I posted that, have calmed down now.

I too was ropable about our most polished yet of four consecutive wins.