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29 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

They're the ink blot tests that a psychiatrist may show you and ask you what you see. Link: Rorschach test - Wikipedia

In reality they're just blots of ink on a page with no meaning. Despite this, the patients will often see meaning in them, revealling more about the issues in the patient's head.

In other words, I find that comments about body language only really reveal the poster's issues, not the subject's.

Bob, I am not sure of your expertise regarding Rorschach, but it has been an important psychiatric tool particularly popular in the 30s, 40s and early fifties. It had an important place in psychiatry over 40 years. It had been discredited over the last 40 years by psychiatrists who also discredit Freud. I find that revisionists are usually minor players when compared to giants in their field that they seek to debunk. However, in its time it was a useful diagnostic tool.  But only one tool. The point you make is correct. The value in the tool was establishing the patients interpretation of the ink blots. That is the skill of psychoanalysis. Much depended on the skill and expertise of the psychiatrist/psycho-analyst..

it was a critical tool used in the psychiatric evaluation of the Nazi War criminals at Nuremberg. 

It has to be seen in its historical context. It was a very valuable tool that was used selectively as a diagnostic tool. 

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33 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Bob, I am not sure of your expertise regarding Rorschach, but it has been an important psychiatric tool particularly popular in the 30s, 40s and early fifties. 

As you'd probably assume, my post demonstrated the extent of my expertise. I certainly didn't anticipate that my knowledge of early 20th century psychoanalysis would be tested beyond knowing how to spell Rorschach! ?

Thought Rorschach was a character from Watchmen.

 
9 hours ago, hemingway said:

Bob, I am not sure of your expertise regarding Rorschach, but it has been an important psychiatric tool particularly popular in the 30s, 40s and early fifties. It had an important place in psychiatry over 40 years. It had been discredited over the last 40 years by psychiatrists who also discredit Freud. I find that revisionists are usually minor players when compared to giants in their field that they seek to debunk. However, in its time it was a useful diagnostic tool.  But only one tool. The point you make is correct. The value in the tool was establishing the patients interpretation of the ink blots. That is the skill of psychoanalysis. Much depended on the skill and expertise of the psychiatrist/psycho-analyst..

it was a critical tool used in the psychiatric evaluation of the Nazi War criminals at Nuremberg. 

It has to be seen in its historical context. It was a very valuable tool that was used selectively as a diagnostic tool. 

It went out of fashion when psychiatry became more interested in the way rats behaved in mazes and they discovered neurochemistry. The poor old subconscious has been in the backseat ever since.


I'm among the unconvinced as far as Goody's coaching goes, but he's been around long enough; and we've seen enough of him now to understand he really does not enjoy doing the media/interview/press conference things. It should be noted some of the 'incidents' (if that's the best word) indicating such the last few years.

Yet he shows up and does them. Personally I think that's admirable of him. I would judge his performance on his most important job, our game day performance, rather than any kind of public speaking he does.

40 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I'm among the unconvinced as far as Goody's coaching goes, but he's been around long enough; and we've seen enough of him now to understand he really does not enjoy doing the media/interview/press conference things. It should be noted some of the 'incidents' (if that's the best word) indicating such the last few years.

Yet he shows up and does them. Personally I think that's admirable of him. I would judge his performance on his most important job, our game day performance, rather than any kind of public speaking he does.

Would love to see the club support him more and have Williams, Yze do more of them moving forward.

2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Roos was coach in 2016

in name only....

 
15 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

in name only....

Yeah okay, if Goodwin is a fraud it doesn't say much for the rest of the competitions coaches of the sides that the MFC has beaten during that time.

 

Personally i can't see Goodwin coaching the entire year, will be interesting to see who we'd look at as a potential replacement. 

I'd hope Ross Lyon - Hard work, but i'd guarantee he'd get us back into finals


What a fascinating Thread. 
those of you who discredit body language 

It doesn’t lie

19 hours ago, hemingway said:

It had been discredited over the last 40 years

Is all you needed to say.

Reckon I’ll book in for Electro Shock therapy if we lose.
Just erase the past 30 years

53 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Reckon I’ll book in for Electro Shock therapy if we lose.
Just erase the past 30 years

It is over 50 DubDee. 


2 minutes ago, old dee said:

It is over 50 DubDee. 

I’ve only had the pleasure for 30 odd mate. Started in 88. Never got to see Flower play

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I’ve only had the pleasure for 30 odd mate. Started in 88. Never got to see Flower play

Actually I think once it goes past 30 the difference is little. It feels just as crappy.

1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Yes it does.

It’s in your DNA P2

You can fight it, but it will show through over a period of time

4 hours ago, bing181 said:

Is all you needed to say.

Don’t be a spoil sport Bing.  

I thought you were a big picture guy rather than a Lilliputian. 

On 3/17/2021 at 1:46 PM, old dee said:

If he only plays 5 games this season  we can assume we bought a pig in a poke. 

Surely pigs can fly Mr Old!??


5 hours ago, DubDee said:

Reckon I’ll book in for Electro Shock therapy if we lose.
Just erase the past 30 years

Will need more than one session i would think DD

9 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Surely pigs can fly Mr Old!??

I have yet to see one RN but I am told it has happened.

On 3/18/2021 at 6:50 AM, loges said:

Thought Rorschach was a character from Watchmen.

I thought he was a character on Welcome Back Kotter

 

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