Jump to content

Simon Goodwin Interview SEN (17/3/21)

dazzledavey36
dazzledavey36
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

29 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

They're the ink blot tests that a psychiatrist may show you and ask you what you see. Link: Rorschach test - Wikipedia

In reality they're just blots of ink on a page with no meaning. Despite this, the patients will often see meaning in them, revealling more about the issues in the patient's head.

In other words, I find that comments about body language only really reveal the poster's issues, not the subject's.

Bob, I am not sure of your expertise regarding Rorschach, but it has been an important psychiatric tool particularly popular in the 30s, 40s and early fifties. It had an important place in psychiatry over 40 years. It had been discredited over the last 40 years by psychiatrists who also discredit Freud. I find that revisionists are usually minor players when compared to giants in their field that they seek to debunk. However, in its time it was a useful diagnostic tool.  But only one tool. The point you make is correct. The value in the tool was establishing the patients interpretation of the ink blots. That is the skill of psychoanalysis. Much depended on the skill and expertise of the psychiatrist/psycho-analyst..

it was a critical tool used in the psychiatric evaluation of the Nazi War criminals at Nuremberg. 

It has to be seen in its historical context. It was a very valuable tool that was used selectively as a diagnostic tool. 

Edited by hemingway

  • Quote
    • Like 4
     
    33 minutes ago, hemingway said:

    Bob, I am not sure of your expertise regarding Rorschach, but it has been an important psychiatric tool particularly popular in the 30s, 40s and early fifties. 

    As you'd probably assume, my post demonstrated the extent of my expertise. I certainly didn't anticipate that my knowledge of early 20th century psychoanalysis would be tested beyond knowing how to spell Rorschach! ?

  • Quote
    • Like 4
    • Haha 4

    Thought Rorschach was a character from Watchmen.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
    9 hours ago, hemingway said:

    Bob, I am not sure of your expertise regarding Rorschach, but it has been an important psychiatric tool particularly popular in the 30s, 40s and early fifties. It had an important place in psychiatry over 40 years. It had been discredited over the last 40 years by psychiatrists who also discredit Freud. I find that revisionists are usually minor players when compared to giants in their field that they seek to debunk. However, in its time it was a useful diagnostic tool.  But only one tool. The point you make is correct. The value in the tool was establishing the patients interpretation of the ink blots. That is the skill of psychoanalysis. Much depended on the skill and expertise of the psychiatrist/psycho-analyst..

    it was a critical tool used in the psychiatric evaluation of the Nazi War criminals at Nuremberg. 

    It has to be seen in its historical context. It was a very valuable tool that was used selectively as a diagnostic tool. 

    It went out of fashion when psychiatry became more interested in the way rats behaved in mazes and they discovered neurochemistry. The poor old subconscious has been in the backseat ever since.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Sad 1

    I'm among the unconvinced as far as Goody's coaching goes, but he's been around long enough; and we've seen enough of him now to understand he really does not enjoy doing the media/interview/press conference things. It should be noted some of the 'incidents' (if that's the best word) indicating such the last few years.

    Yet he shows up and does them. Personally I think that's admirable of him. I would judge his performance on his most important job, our game day performance, rather than any kind of public speaking he does.

  • Quote
    40 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    I'm among the unconvinced as far as Goody's coaching goes, but he's been around long enough; and we've seen enough of him now to understand he really does not enjoy doing the media/interview/press conference things. It should be noted some of the 'incidents' (if that's the best word) indicating such the last few years.

    Yet he shows up and does them. Personally I think that's admirable of him. I would judge his performance on his most important job, our game day performance, rather than any kind of public speaking he does.

    Would love to see the club support him more and have Williams, Yze do more of them moving forward.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

    Roos was coach in 2016

    in name only....

  • Quote
    • Thanks 1
     
    15 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    in name only....

    Yeah okay, if Goodwin is a fraud it doesn't say much for the rest of the competitions coaches of the sides that the MFC has beaten during that time.

     

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Personally i can't see Goodwin coaching the entire year, will be interesting to see who we'd look at as a potential replacement. 

    I'd hope Ross Lyon - Hard work, but i'd guarantee he'd get us back into finals

  • Quote

    What a fascinating Thread. 
    those of you who discredit body language 

    It doesn’t lie

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Haha 1
    19 hours ago, hemingway said:

    It had been discredited over the last 40 years

    Is all you needed to say.

  • Quote

    Reckon I’ll book in for Electro Shock therapy if we lose.
    Just erase the past 30 years

  • Quote
    53 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    Reckon I’ll book in for Electro Shock therapy if we lose.
    Just erase the past 30 years

    It is over 50 DubDee. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    2 minutes ago, old dee said:

    It is over 50 DubDee. 

    I’ve only had the pleasure for 30 odd mate. Started in 88. Never got to see Flower play

  • Quote
    • Sad 1
    2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    I’ve only had the pleasure for 30 odd mate. Started in 88. Never got to see Flower play

    Actually I think once it goes past 30 the difference is little. It feels just as crappy.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

    Yes it does.

    It’s in your DNA P2

    You can fight it, but it will show through over a period of time

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Haha 1
    4 hours ago, bing181 said:

    Is all you needed to say.

    Don’t be a spoil sport Bing.  

    I thought you were a big picture guy rather than a Lilliputian. 

  • Quote
    • Haha 1
    On 3/17/2021 at 1:46 PM, old dee said:

    If he only plays 5 games this season  we can assume we bought a pig in a poke. 

    Surely pigs can fly Mr Old!??

  • Quote

    5 hours ago, DubDee said:

    Reckon I’ll book in for Electro Shock therapy if we lose.
    Just erase the past 30 years

    Will need more than one session i would think DD

  • Quote
    • Haha 2
    9 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

    Surely pigs can fly Mr Old!??

    I have yet to see one RN but I am told it has happened.

  • Quote
    On 3/18/2021 at 6:50 AM, loges said:

    Thought Rorschach was a character from Watchmen.

    I thought he was a character on Welcome Back Kotter

  • Quote
    • Haha 2
     

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 05

      Gather Round is here, kicking off with a Thursday night blockbuster as Adelaide faces Geelong. The Crows will be out for redemption after a controversial loss last week. Saturday starts with the Magpies taking on the Swans. Collingwood will be eager to cement their spot in the top eight, while Sydney is hot on their heels. In the Barossa Valley, two rising sides go head-to-head in a fascinating battle to prove they're the real deal. Later, Carlton and West Coast face off at Adelaide Oval, both desperate to notch their first win of the season. The action then shifts to Norwood, where the undefeated Lions will aim to keep their streak alive against the Bulldogs. Sunday’s games begin in the Barossa with Richmond up against Fremantle. In Norwood, the Saints will be looking to take a scalp when they come up against the Giants. The round concludes with a fiery rematch of last year's semi-final, as the Hawks seek revenge for their narrow loss to Port Adelaide. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons besides us winning?

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Geelong

      There was a time in the second quarter of the game at the Cattery on Friday afternoon when the Casey Demons threatened to take the game apart against the Cats. The Demons had been well on top early but were struggling to convert their ascendancy over the ground until Tom Fullarton’s burst of three goals in the space of eight minutes on the way to a five goal haul and his best game for the club since arriving from Brisbane at the end of 2023. He was leading, marking and otherwise giving his opponents a merry dance as Casey grabbed a three goal lead in the blink of an eye. Fullarton has now kicked ten goals in Casey’s three matches and, with Melbourne’s forward conversion woes, he is definitely in with a chance to get his first game with the club in next week’s Gather Round in Adelaide. Despite the tall forward’s efforts - he finished with 19 disposals and eight marks and had four hit outs as back up to Will Verrall in the second half - it wasn’t enough as Geelong reigned in the lead through persistent attacks and eventually clawed their way to the lead early in the last and held it till they achieved the end aim of victory.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Geelong

      I was disappointed to hear Goody say at his post match presser after the team’s 39 point defeat against Geelong that "we're getting high quality entry, just poor execution" because Melbourne’s problems extend far beyond that after its 0 - 4 start to the 2025 football season. There are clearly problems with poor execution, some of which were evident well before the current season and were in play when the Demons met the Cats in early May last year and beat them in a near top-of-the-table clash that saw both sides sitting comfortably in the top four after round eight. Since that game, the Demons’ performances have been positively Third World with only five wins in 19 games with a no longer majestic midfield and a dysfunctional forward line that has become too easy for opposing coaches to counter. This is an area of their game that is currently being played out as if they were all completely panic-stricken.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Essendon

      Facing the very real and daunting prospect of starting the season with five straight losses, the Demons head to South Australia for the annual Gather Round, where they’ll take on the Bombers in search of their first win of the year. Who comes in, and who comes out?

        • Clap
        • Like
      • 207 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • NON-MFC: Round 04

      Round 4 kicks off with a blockbuster on Thursday night as traditional rivals Collingwood and Carlton clash at the MCG, with the Magpies looking to assert themselves as early-season contenders and the Blues seeking their first win of the season. Saturday opens with Gold Coast hosting Adelaide, a key test for the Suns as they aim to back up their big win last week, while the Crows will be looking to keep their perfect record intact. Reigning wooden spooners Richmond have the daunting task of facing reigning premiers Brisbane at the ‘G and the Lions will be eager to reaffirm their premiership credentials after a patchy start. Saturday night sees North Melbourne take on Sydney at Marvel Stadium, with the Swans looking to build on their first win of the season last week against a rebuilding Roos outfit. Sunday’s action begins with GWS hosting West Coast at ENGIE Stadium, a game that could get ugly very early for the visitors. Port Adelaide vs St Kilda at Adelaide Oval looms as a interesting clash, with both clubs form being very hard to read. The round wraps up with Fremantle taking on the Western Bulldogs at Optus Stadium in what could be a fierce contest between two sides with top-eight ambitions. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons besides us winning?

        • Haha
      • 273 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Geelong

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 7th April @ the all new time of 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect another Demons loss at Kardinia Park to the Cats in the Round 04. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 56 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All